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Tuesday Cheese Curds: Packers looking like pretenders, not contenders

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Iron pyrite, or fool’s gold, is easy to distinguish from the real thing if you know what you’re looking at. It’s brassy, more shiny than lustrous, and appears in nature as something more akin to a crystal than the rounded nuggets or flakes of gold.

There’s another key difference: under pressure, gold is malleable and will dent or fold to make a new shape as it adjusts to its circumstances, while iron pyrite will shatter.

The first two weeks of the season, the Packers were certainly brassy and shiny. They caught the Lions off guard with their new superstar pass rusher, wrecking a team that didn’t have much of a chance to prepare for their new superstar pass rusher. They handled the Commanders on a short week, giving the league its first glimpse at exactly how far Washington has fallen from a year ago.

Then, at literally the first sign of adversity, the Packers shattered like the fool’s gold they appear to be — and that’s becoming a pattern.

When unexpected offensive line issues popped up in the Browns’ game, the Packers’ offense completely tanked. Against the Panthers, when a torn ACL knocked Tucker Kraft out of the lineup, the Packers again fell apart on offense. That ineptitude lingered into the Eagles game, where the Packers sputtered through three quarters before finally finding their way to the end zone in the fourth. It wasn’t enough.

It’s easy to be caught as a prisoner of the moment and feel like the sky is falling, and maybe it isn’t. Maybe the Packers can right the ship and become the contenders they’re supposed to be this season. But if twice is a coincidence and three times is a trend, how are we to feel about a team that consistently fails in the exact same way?

Packers’ offense fails to match defense in loss to Eagles | ESPN

Honestly, this headline was adequate after the first three words.

Packers coach Matt LaFleur needs to bring in some help on offense before it’s too late | Packers News

The Packers need help, but where can they find it at this point in the season?

Game notes: Packers looking for answers with their run game | Packers.com

When even the official mouthpiece of the Packers is questioning the run game, I think you’ve got more problems than Matt LaFleur can handwave away.

Matt LaFleur Had Very Honest Answer About His Job Security After Loss to Eagles | Sports Illustrated

Since this is his stock answer on any personnel question, LaFleur should just refer to his job prospects as “a competitive situation.”

Rare footage shows sucker fish as they whale-surf in the ocean’s wildest joyride | Associated Press

Neat!

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Jaire Alexander to step away from Eagles, contemplate retirement

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When the Philadelphia Eagles beat the Green Bay Packers, they did so with some fresh faces who were just added to the 53-man roster, including Brandon Graham, Jaelan Phillips and Michael Carter II. Interestingly, one of the players who didn’t make the trip to Green Bay was cornerback Jaire Alexander, a former Packer who was traded from the Baltimore Ravens to the Eagles at the deadline.

Now, according to The Athletic’s Dianna Russini, Alexander is stepping away from the Eagles and will contemplate retirement at 28 years old. After years of knee problems, Alexander was released by the Packers this offseason and signed a one-year, $4 million deal with the Ravens that included $2 million in incentives. By walking away now, he’ll be turning down a good portion of that money.

To acquire the former Packer first-round selection, the Eagles traded a 2026 sixth-round pick for Alexander and a 2027 seventh-round pick.

This season, Alexander played two games for Baltimore, lining up on defense 61 times as a rotational cornerback. Prior to his stint in Baltimore, he had played 78 games for the Packers and started 76 of them. Twice, Alexander was named an All-Pro cornerback and Pro Bowler in his time with Green Bay, in both the 2020 and 2022 seasons.

Over the last five seasons, though, he’s only played in 36 of the available 78 games (46 percent) through Week 10 of the 2025 campaign, mostly due to injuries.

Source: https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/...-step-away-from-eagles-contemplate-retirement
 
Jameis Winston may start for New York Giants against Green Bay Packers

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One thing that we now know about the Green Bay Packers’ upcoming game against the New York Giants on Sunday afternoon: Russell Wilson will not be the Giants’ starting quarterback.

On Wednesday morning, the Giants revealed that they are making Jameis Winston their number two quarterback behind rookie Jaxson Dart, moving Winston up ahead of Wilson on the depth chart. Dart is currently recovering from a concussion that he suffered last Sunday against the Chicago Bears, and the fact that it is his fourth concussion of the season makes it highly likely that he will sit out Sunday’s game.

As a result, Winston is now in line to start if Dart indeed cannot play this weekend, giving the Giants a higher variance to their offense.

That offense was already going to be a bit unpredictable on Sunday, however, thanks to the Giants’ coaching change. The team fired head coach Brian Daboll and installed former offensive coordinator Mike Kafka as their interim head coach. Kafka has been the primary playcaller for the Giants’ offense over most of the last two-and-a-half seasons, but even though that role is not changing, he may still take the unit in a new direction with Daboll no longer being in charge.

Winston has not played in a game for the Giants yet this year, serving as the team’s #3 quarterback. Last year he played in 12 games for the Cleveland Browns, starting seven of them, and he was his usual self in that he threw for a lot of yards and a lot of turnovers. In those seven starts, which covered consecutive games from week 8 to week 15, Winston threw for 291 yards per game with 12 touchdowns, but he also threw 12 interceptions as well and posted a passer rating of 79.8.

Interestingly, Winston’s career as a starter primarily covered five seasons from 2015 to 2019, all with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, but two of the three games he has played against the Packers were as a member of the New Orleans Saints, one each in the 2021 and 2023 seasons. His only game against Green Bay as a Buccaneer was in 2017, a 26-20 Packers overtime victory. Winston threw for 270 yards and two touchdowns, but he was sacked 7 times, three times by Clay Matthews. One of those sacks, by Kenny Clark, caused a fumble that Dean Lowry returned 62 yards for a touchdown.

As a Saint, Winston started the opener in 2021, which was played in Jacksonville due to a hurricane affecting the city of New Orleans, and in that game he completed 14 of 20 passes for 148 yards and a whopping five touchdowns in a 38-3 Saints rout. His only other game against Green Bay came in relief of injured starter Derek Carr in early 2023; in that game the Saints led 17-0 early in the fourth quarter, but Green Bay mounted a comeback and won an 18-17 thriller as New Orleans’ game-winning field goal attempt missed with a minute left.

Source: https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/...-green-bay-packers-jaxson-dart-russell-wilson
 
Packers-Giants 1st Injury Report of Week 11

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Green Bay Packers receiver Romeo Doubs, who left the action against the Philadelphia Eagles in the Packers’ loss on Monday Night Football with a chest injury, was a full participant in Green Bay’s walkthrough on Wednesday. Yes, the Packers had a walkthrough instead of a full practice to start the week, even though the team had a typical Tuesday off yesterday during the short week.

Outside of the Doubs news, here’s what you need to know from both the Packers’ and New York Giants’ injury reports.

Packers non-participants​

  • DE Lukas Van Ness (foot)
  • CB Nate Hobbs (knee)

Both Lukas Van Ness and Nate Hobbs, who were inactive last week against the Eagles, remain injured. As long as they are out, expect Kingsley Enagbare to continue to fill the DE3 role behind Micah Parsons and Rashan Gary, while Keisean Nixon and Carrington Valentine are the full-time starting cornerbacks. Previously, Hobbs had rotated with Valentine, and even started outright over Valentine, this season.

Packers limited participants​

  • WR Matthew Golden (shoulder)
  • WR Dontayvion Wicks (calf)
  • WR Savion Williams (foot)
  • RT Zach Tom (back)
  • DE Micah Parsons (pectoral)
  • DE Kingsley Enagbare (knee)
  • LB Quay Walker (calf)
  • LB Edgerrin Cooper (foot)

There are no new injuries here, but it’s worth noting that both starting linebacker, Quay Walker and Edgerrin Cooper, were full participants in the Packers’ Saturday practice but reverted back to being estimated as limited on Wednesday. This could mean that their injuries are just issues that might need to be managed throughout the week at this point.

Matthew Golden was the only player in this group who didn’t suit up against the Eagles. He was a non-participant on both Friday and Saturday practices last week, so it’s a semi-positive sign that he’s being listed as limited.

Players who no longer appear on the injury report are:

  • QB Malik Willis (calf)
  • WR Christian Watson (knee)
  • WR Malik Heath (hip)
  • LG Aaron Banks (neck)
  • DT Colby Wooden (shoulder)
  • CB Kamal Hadden (hamstring)
  • K Brandon McManus (quadricep)

See, not everything needs to be negative.

Giants non-participants​

  • QB Jaxson Dart (concussion)
  • WR Darius Slayton (hamstring)
  • OL Evan Neal (hamstring)
  • DL Rakeem Nunez Roches (toe)
  • LB Kayvon Thibodeaux (shoulder)
  • LB Bobby Okereke (shoulder)
  • LB Chauncey Golston (neck)
  • LB Neville Hewitt (foot)
  • DB Tyler Nubin (neck)
  • K Graham Gano (neck)

It is already the expectation that Jameis Winston is going to start for the Giants on Sunday because of Jaxson Dart’s concussion. If Gano can’t go, the Giants have THREE practice squad kickers: Younghoe Koo, Ben Saults and Jude McAtamney. Last week, Koo stepped into the lineup and went 2/2 for the Giants with a long of 32 in New York’s loss to the Chicago Bears.

Update: The Giants have placed Gano on the injured reserve.

Giants limited participants​

  • TE Daniel Bellinger (groin)
  • OL John Michael Scmitz (shin)
  • LB Victor Dimukeje (shoulder)
  • DB Paulson Adebo (knee)

Hey, it looks like we’re finally going into a game as the healthier team.

Packers held a walkthrough today, so their end of the injury report is an estimation. pic.twitter.com/RIWOLLqtWF

— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) November 12, 2025

Source: https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/...6/packers-giants-1st-injury-report-of-week-11
 
A Minnesota Viking is earning the Packers an extra draft pick

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The Green Bay Packers might actually end up netting an extra draft pick in 2026 thanks to former Packers linebacker Eric Wilson, because he’s started the last nine games for the Minnesota Vikings, jumping ahead of projected starter Ivan Pace in snaps played. Too often, we think of compensatory draft picks as just cash coming in and out, and that deciding who gets the extra 32 picks in every draft (basically an additional round sprinkled in from Round 3 to Round 7), but that’s not exactly how it works.

Below is how OverTheCap explains the NFL’s formula for rewarding teams that lose contributors in free agency:

Contracts are ranked via a Final Numerical Value based on the sum of points awarded as follows:

An inverse ranking of the contract’s Average Per Year (APY)

One point each for each percentage point of snaps played on offense or defense, with a minimum requirement of 25%. (Kickers and punters earn points based upon statistical performance.)

20 or 5 points based upon being honored by the AP All Pro or PFWA On Field Awards lists.

The round for each contract is assigned on a percentile basis, as follows:

3rd Round: top 5%

4th Round: below top 5% to top 10%

5th Round: below top 10% to top 15%

6th Round: below top 15% to top 25%

7th Round: below top 25% to top 35% (previously 50% in the 2011 CBA)

The main factor I want to talk about here is snaps played on offense or defense. That is a massive variable, especially in this era, when the free-agent pool is typically weaker compared to pre-pandemic seasons, making projecting compensatory draft picks more challenging. Before the pandemic, and the salary cap reduction that came with it, clubs didn’t widely manipulate the salary cap with void years and conversions of salaries into new signing bonuses, which meant that more high- to mid-level starters hit the open market due to momentary cap pinches for individual franchises. Because more high- to mid-level starters hit the market, the top free agents were obviously playing more frequently, and the compensatory draft pick order was more predictable once the window to sign “compensatory free agents” closed.

Now that no more compensatory free agents can be added to the formula w/Elijah Moore & JK Dobbins finally signed, I've taken a detailed update on where the 2026 comp picks stand.

If I had to guess as of now, I'd think it'd look something like this. But it's just a guess. pic.twitter.com/u7HbpYi02P

— Nick Korte (@nickkorte) June 17, 2025

This summer, the Packers weren’t expected to get a compensatory pick for Wilson. 32 other players were bigger financial losses this offseason, without being offset in free agency by their original clubs, so Wilson’s contract alone didn’t allow Green Bay to stake a claim for a compensatory pick. What pushed Wilson’s name up the compensatory draft pick formula was the fact that he’s actually seeing the field in Minnesota, as he’s now played 482 defensive snaps over nine games (53.6 snaps per game).

There have been other big changes to the comp pick order, based on how playing time has worked this season. Going into the year, the Detroit Lions and New Orleans Saints weren’t expected to receive any draft picks for cornerbacks Carlton Davis and Paulson Adebo, respectively, but because of playing time adjustments being a factor for previously offsetting free agent additions, both teams would now net a fourth-round pick each if the season ended today. On the flip side, the Miami Dolphins (Jevon Holland), Minnesota Vikings (Daniel Jones) and New York Jets (Haason Reddick) all expected to earn fourth-round picks for outgoing free agents in July, but would receive nothing for those players leaving if the season ended today, because players they signed to lesser free-agent deals now offset those losses due to playing time.

In total, 11 of the original 32 projected compensatory picks from mid-July have now vanished entirely and been replaced due to the playing time adjustments in the compensatory draft pick formula, which is how Wilson is on pace to net the Packers an extra seventh-round pick in the 2026 draft. Two others, Pittsburgh’s sixth-round pick for Russell Wilson and Indianapolis’s sixth-round pick for Joe Flacco, have even been adjusted a round because of the playing time adjustment. In Wilson’s case, he was expected to net a fifth-round pick for the Steelers, but has been adjusted down a round. In Flacco’s case, he was expected to net a seventh-round pick for the Colts, but has been adjusted up a round.

If you want to take a look at the full list of compensatory picks, as it stands going into Week 11, you can check that out on OverTheCap. The pick the Packers would get right now for Wilson is set to be the third-to-last pick in the entire 2026 draft.

The way the math works for the Packers currently is that the losses of T.J. Slaton and cornerback Eric Stokes, which would have earned the team a sixth- and seventh-round pick in 2026 had the team not signed any free agents in 2025, are offset by the gains of guard Aaron Banks (who is set to earn the San Francisco 49ers a fourth-round pick) and cornerback Nate Hobbs this offseason. Wilson will earn Green Bay that extra pick because the only other “compensatory free agent” the team signed this spring was receiver Mecole Hardman, who didn’t make the roster and therefore cannot play enough to offset Wilson.

There’s also a very slim chance down the line that the Packers could add a second compensatory pick due to the loss of center Josh Myers, who signed with the New York Jets in free agency. Myers has started all nine games for the Jets this year, but only signed a deal averaging $2 million per season, so he’s currently on the wrong side of the cutoff. If he were to eventually qualify as one of the league’s top 32 non-offset losses, he would earn Green Bay a third seventh-round pick in 2026.

Source: https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/...gs-is-earning-the-packers-an-extra-draft-pick
 
Thursday Night Football Week 11 Game Thread: Jets face Patriots

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The first NFL game of Week 11 is upon us and despite tonight’s game being a divisional matchup, it features one team being favored by nearly two touchdowns.

The New England Patriots are one of the biggest surprises in the NFL this season, as they join the Colts and Broncos as surprising division leaders with 8-2 records. Second-year quarterback Drake Maye is already squarely in the MVP conversation, while Mike Vrabel’s first year as the Patriots head coach is off to a stellar start.

The opposite is true for the New York Jets, aside from their results being surprising. The Jets have scuffled to a 2-7 record through ten weeks, with first-year head coach Aaron Glenn’s team struggling mightily on defense despite that being his background. The Jets have allowed the 7th-most points in the NFL, including six games giving up at least 27 points and three allowing 34 or more, and they have just a single takeaway all season long.

Still the Jets come into this week on a two-game winning streak, having beaten the Cincinnati Bengals 39-38 and the Cleveland Browns 27-20 on either side of their week 9 bye.

Will the Jets find a way to contain Maye and the Patriots’ offense in New England? Or will the Patriots’ hot start keep going tonight? Tune in to find out and join us in the comments to discuss.

WHO?​


New York Jets (2-7) vs. New England Patriots (8-2)

WHERE?​


Gillette Stadium
Foxborough, Massachusetts

WHEN?​


Thursday, November 13, 2025
8:15 PM Eastern Time

HOW?​


Amazon Prime
Commentators: Al Michaels, Kirk Herbstreit

Radio: Westwood One Sports

WHAT ELSE?​

Odds​


Point spread: Patriots -12.5
Over/under total: 43.5

2024 Games​


Week 3: @Jets 24, Patriots 3
Week 8: @Patriots 25, Jets 22

All-Time Head-to-Head​


Regular Season: Patriots lead 73-55-1
Playoffs: Patriots lead 2-1

Current Win Streak: Patriots 1

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Packers-Giants Preview: How Green Bay can attack New York’s defense

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With Week 10 firmly in the rearview mirror and no one still talking about it at all, it’s time we turn and look at the Week 11 match-up against the New York Giants. What can we expect to see from the Green Bay Packers’ offense in this game? I looked at some numbers and film to form a kind of attack plan against this Giants defense. (Unless otherwise noted, all the numbers I’m using here will be coming from NFL Pro.)

We’ll start where the Packers seem to want to start: with the run game. The Packers have not been particularly good this season (their EPA per rush of -0.04 has them 16th in the league), but the Giants’ defense has been even worse. The Giants boast the worst rushing defense in the league this year, allowing +0.16 per rush. That’s the same EPA per Play that Lamar Jackson has been generating every time he drops back this year (and +0.01 better than a Daniel Jones dropback).

The second-worst rushing defense in the league this year is the Bengals (+0.11 EPA per Rush), and that match-up saw Josh Jacobs put up 93 yards on 18 carries (5.2 YPA), his best game of the season. So I would expect to see a steady diet of the run game, and for the Packers to have success doing it.

Early in the game, you can hit the Giants on the edges. They typically have some soft edges, and you can take advantage of that with some outside tosses and some pin/pull runs.

As they start to take that away (and they will), you can find some lanes on the inside. You can dress those runs up to look the same to really create space on the interior. Bring the TE in on the escort motion, then hit ‘em with the inside toss.

The Packers’ down-to-down running game should also find success, but if they’re hunting for explosives on the ground, that would be a good way to do it. You can also find success out of I-Formation, so I wouldn’t be shocked to see TE Josh Whyle working in that role for the Packers this week.

When passing, the Packers should be able to find success wherever they want. Intermediate passing? The Packers are 4th on offense while the Giants are 23rd on defense. Quick game? The Packers are 2nd, the Giants are 10th. Play action? The Packers are 5th, the Giants are 21st. Long passing? The Packers are 13th, the Giants are 25th.

For now, we’ll focus on the play-action game, because that seems like an area the Packers could attack. The Giants’ linebackers react aggressively to play action, which has not necessarily been true of all the defenses the Packers have faced so far this season. They will react particularly strongly to play action from under center, but they will react nearly as strongly out of Pistol with the RB in a Dot formation (lined up directly behind the QB). Selling that action will see the linebackers screaming out of position to take away the run.

They’ll also react to play action out of shotgun (with the RB aligned next to the QB). The reaction isn’t quite as strong, but it’s enough to get a false step and then widen into their drop, which will open up space in the middle. Running a Play Action Strike concept should result in some nice gains.

In general, the middle of the field should be open for business against the Giants. Even when not employing play action, the inside linebackers will widen into their drops in zone and be perfectly happy covering grass. That can lead to some open lanes in the passing game to the intermediate middle of the field.

They won’t show sim-pressure looks too much, but when they do, it’s pretty easy to get them to declare. By using a good cadence (which Jordan Love has in his bag), get them to show the droppers before you snap the ball, and make sure you’ve got at least one route breaking to the middle of the field. Their dropping LBs off play action aren’t good, but they’re worse when dropping off from a simulated pressure.

For their coverage tendencies, the Giants play with a single high safety on 56.9% of their defensive snaps, the 3rd highest rate in the league (per FTN). After going up against some teams that preferred their two-high looks a little more, this could help to open up more downfield attacks for the Packers. They also don’t disguise what they’re doing much on the back end. If the Giants are showing a one-high safety look pre-snap, you’re more than likely getting a one-high safety look post-snap.



So here’s a summary and our attack plan:

  • Attack the outside edges of this defense early with tosses (focus on pin/pull).
  • When they start looking to take that away, hit them with some counters. Inside toss would be a good way to do this.
  • Use pullers at the point of attack in the run game. Whether that’s a motion TE, a pulling o-lineman or a combination of both. That can help with moving bodies in the run game, but can also build in triggers for the defense on the play-action game.
  • Look to attack with play action, specifically from under center or pistol/dot.
  • Make sure you’re loaded up with your middle-field attacking concepts. Dagger, Arches, Portland/Mills, backside dig routes, etc.
  • If they show a blitz, use cadence to get them to declare who is coming. If they’re dropping out, make sure you’ve got at least one route breaking to the middle.
  • Very little deception on the back end of the defense. Make sure you’re checking the backside safety post-snap, but you should have a clear picture of how to attack the defense before the ball is even snapped.


Albums listened to: Missionary Girls – Bleeding Out; Wilby – Center of Affection

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Carrington Valentine could be in for a breakout game against Jameis Winston

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As the Green Bay Packers prepare for one of the most chaotic quarterbacks in modern NFL history in Jameis Winston, it presents an opportunity for third-year cornerback Carrington Valentine to make some splash plays for his defense.

Shortly after firing head coach Brian Daboll, the New York Giants announced that Winston would be starting over an injured Jaxson Dart and ahead of veteran Russell Wilson, who struggled mightily when forced onto the field last week against the Chicago Bears.

This will be Winston’s first playing time of the year after appearing in 12 games for the Cleveland Browns in 2024. For anyone who is unfamiliar with the Jameis experience, it includes a lot of exciting plays and a lot of turnovers.

JAMEIS WINSTON FOR THE LEAD!!!! pic.twitter.com/lOPN9M8DNp

— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) October 27, 2024

While Winston finished 2024 with a pair of fourth-quarter comebacks and game-winning drives in 12 games, he also led the NFL with a turnover-worthy play rate of 5.2 percent and was second behind only Anthony Richardson with a 4.1 percent interception rate.

THE BRONCOS (-6.5) DEFENSE GETS THEIR SECOND INTERCEPTION ON JAMEIS WINSTON! 🤯

(via @NFL)pic.twitter.com/9IK3jh6MXl

— ESPN BET (@ESPNBET) December 3, 2024

The argument could be made that Winston might be in a better offensive situation this year with the Giants, and therefore could be less inclined to turn the ball over. But that argument is weak at best, going from the 32nd-ranked offense by DVOA last year with Cleveland to the 24th-ranked offense this season with the Giants, with Dart likely being a big reason for that slight uptick in offensive efficiency.

New York is also heading into Sunday banged up. On top of season-ending injuries to Malik Nabers and Cam Skattebo, the Giants will be without another key weapon in Darius Slayton.

The lack of offensive firepower will make it difficult for Winston to air it out, and when he does try to force throws, Valentine will be there to make plays on the ball.

After starting the season behind Nate Hobbs on the depth chart, Valetine has made the most of his opportunities in recent weeks, with Monday night against the Philadelphia Eagles being his best game of the year. Despite being targeted five times, he allowed just one catch for seven yards.

With the danger of Green Bay’s pass rush, the secondary is getting more and more comfortable breaking downhill on the quick game, and Valentine is getting close to jumping a pass for an interception after recording a pair of INTs in 2024.

Carrington Valentine was in position to take one to the house on Monday with a more accurate pass from the QB. pic.twitter.com/wvw5VOv4Lf

— Tyler Brooke (@TylerDBrooke) November 14, 2025

With Hobbs out at least one more week, Valentine will have another opportunity to show out and earn more playing time going forward, regardless of who is healthy enough to play. Given Winston’s inability to take care of the football, Sunday could be a real opportunity for Green Bay’s young cornerback to have a breakout game.

Source: https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/...in-for-a-breakout-game-against-jameis-winston
 
College Football Open Thread Week 12

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We’ve already had one top-25 upset this week, with #20 Louisville falling to Clemson on Friday night. The ACC is currently in absolute chaos, as each of Georgia Tech, Virginia, SMU, Pittsburgh and Duke all have only one loss at the top of the conference. Yes, 5-4 Duke is 4-1 in the ACC. There’s a slim chance that the ACC is left out of the playoff entirely in 2025.

Beyond just the ACC, though, there should be some good games on the college football slate this week. Below are the top-25 matchups on Saturday.

#9 Notre Dame @ #22 Pittsburgh (11 am CT, ABC)​


According to ESPN’s Football Power Index, Notre Dame is the two-loss team with the best chance of making the college football playoff with a 57.5 percent chance. Their two losses to start the season were against the Miami Hurricanes and Texas A&M Aggies, both top-15 teams, and the combined margin was just 4 points in those games. Since then, the Fighting Irish have won every other game they’ve played this year by at least 10 points.

Obviously, a loss to the Pittsburgh Panthers would be brutal for the Irish’s playoff odds, as this is the last hurdle for Notre Dame to clear. They end the season against Syracuse and Stanford, one of the worst programs in the Power 4 in 2025, after this matchup.

But the Panthers have stakes in this game, too, as they sit at 7-2 and 5-1 in conference play. With the Louisville Cardinals on Friday, their chances of getting to go to Charlotte for the ACC Championship will shoot through the roof if they can beat Notre Dame in this one.

#11 Oklahoma @ #4 Alabama (2:30 pm CT, ABC)​


The Oklahoma Sooners are fighting for their playoff lives. Currently, even though they’re 7-2, they only have a 23.6 percent chance of making the playoff, which ranks 17th in the FBS this year. Some of that is probably factoring in a likely loss to the Alabama Crimson Tide this week, plus the fact that Oklahoma ends the season against the Missouri Tigers, who have been in and out of the top-25 this year, and the LSU Tigers.

Speaking of Alabama, they’ve basically punched in their card for the postseason dance. They have a 95.7 percent chance of making the playoff, third best behind just Ohio State and Indiana. ESPN gives them a better than 50 percent chance of winning the SEC, more than double the credit that they’re giving Texas A&M, which is currently undefeated at 9-0.

Alabama gets the FCS’s Eastern Illinois next week, a 3-7 team, before playing Auburn, which has already fired its head coach and is 1-6 in SEC play, to end the regular season. If the Tide wins out, that probably means that we’re going to see an A&M-Bama matchup in Atlanta for the SEC title.

#21 Iowa @ #17 USC (2:30 pm CT, Big Ten Network)​


Both of these teams are on the brink of elimination going into this game. The Iowa Hawkeyes dropped two losses to the Indiana Hoosiers and Oregon Ducks, who are currently ranked in the top eight, but the loss that is really killing them right now is their in-state loss to Iowa State, a program that is just 6-4 this season.

USC only has two losses this year, but they get to play back-to-back ranked games against Iowa and Oregon before they play their rival, UCLA. The Trojans probably can’t add another loss to their resume and feel safe about their playoff chances.

FPI currently has Iowa with a 4.1 percent chance to make the playoff and USC with a 16.6 percent chance. Both are just fighting for survival.

#10 Texas @ #5 Georgia (6:30 pm CT, ABC)​


Some people believe the Texas Longhorns have turned a leaf since losing to Ohio State 14-7 in the season-opener and 29-21 to the Florida Gators in their SEC opener this season. A lot of that is off the back of beating Oklahoma, currently the 11th-ranked college program, 23-6 in the Red River Rivalry. It’s worth remembering that Sooners quarterback John Mateer had only recently come back from a hand surgery in the loss.

Since Texas’ signature win over Oklahoma, they’ve won by a touchdown or less against unranked Kentucky, unranked Mississippi State and 14th-ranked Vanderbilt. If you’re the Longhorns, it’s time to put up or shut up.

For Texas to avoid its third loss of the season, it’ll have to not only make it through Georgia but also undefeated Texas A&M, its final matchup of the regular season.

Despite the likelihood of Texas going at least 9-3 in the regular season, FPI still gives the Longhorns a 49.2 percent chance of making the playoff. For perspective, the next-best team that FPI expects at least three losses from, from a playoff odds perspective, is Oklahoma at 23.6 percent.

Meanwhile, Georgia is 8-1, but on the outside looking in for the SEC race, considering that both Alabama (who beat the Bulldogs head-to-head) and A&M are undefeated in conference. If Georgia can win this and Texas can beat A&M to end the year, though, they’ll have a good chance of making it to Atlanta.



Feel free to talk about college football or the NFL draft in the comment section on Saturday.

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Former Packer Mecole Hardman called up for Bills

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The Green Bay Packers signed receiver/returner Mecole Hardman this offseason, as the team apparently planned on phasing All-Pro returner Keisean Nixon off of special teams. So far this year, Nixon hasn’t returned even 1 of the 30 kick returns that the Packers have taken out in 2025, and Nixon has only returned 3 of the team’s 21 punt returns.

On punt returns, specifically, Green Bay needed a starter at the position going into the offseason. So far, the punt return duties have been split between Romeo Doubs (10), Matthew Golden (6), Nixon (3) and Jayden Reed (2) this season. Meanwhile, rookie receiver Savion Williams has been the team’s primary kick returner since Week 1.

Hardman didn’t make the Packers’ initial 53-man roster, though, which featured six other receivers and Christian Watson on the PUP list. Ultimately, that last roster spot at receiver came down to Malik Heath, who, for apparent disciplinary reasons, isn’t traveling with Green Bay this week, and Hardman. The Packers went with Heath and ended up signing Hardman to their practice squad the day after cutdowns.

Hardman didn’t stick around long, though, as he was released on September 23rd. He resurfaced with the Buffalo Bills on Monday, signing with their practice squad. On Saturday, the Bills promoted Hardman off their practice squad to their 53-man roster.

So if you want to track a could-have-been situation, keep an eye on some Bills games, particularly when the team is returning the ball. In Hardman’s NFL career, he has returned 89 punts for 819 yards and a touchdown, along with 45 returns for 1,073 yards and a touchdown. As a rookie in 2019, he earned Pro Bowl and second-team All-Pro honors for his performance as a returner.

So far this year, the Bills have used four kick returners (Brandon Codrington, Curtis Samuel, Ty Johnson and Ray Davis) and three punt returners (Codrington, Khalil Shakir and Keon Coleman). All of those players remain on Buffalo’s 53-man roster, other than Codrington, who was released today. For what it’s worth, Hardman’s addition to the team makes him the seventh receiver on the Bills’ active roster. The team also elevated receiver Gabe Davis from the practice squad to the gameday roster this week.

Here’s an interesting dynamic about Hardman’s status: He’s now waiver eligible. When he was on Buffalo’s practice squad, to poach him, teams would have needed to guarantee him three weeks on their 53-man roster to make the transaction. If a player is claimed off waivers, though, there is no minimum time that a player has to be on the roster for. Since we’re past the trade deadline, all players, including vested veterans like Hardman, are now subject to waivers.

This weird dynamic, where it’s actually more advantageous to pluck a player off of waivers than as a practice squad poach, has already been a factor for the Packers once this year. The Tennessee Titans snatched offensive lineman Brant Banks, who was previously on Green Bay’s practice squad, when he was brought up for short-term roster relief on the 53-man roster and later waived by the Packers. The Titans only kept Banks for nine days, instead of the three-week minimum that would have come with a practice squad poach.

So if Hardman is ever subject to post-trade deadline waivers, he should have more of a market around the league than when he was a member of the Bills’ practice squad.

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NFL Week 11 Sunday Schedule & Discussion Thread

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It’s about time for the very last quadrupleheader of the 2025 NFL season. Today, the last international game on the schedule kicks off, this one from Madrid, Spain where the Washington Commanders and Miami Dolphins face off. That game starts a big day across the NFL, with a number of important divisional matchups on the schedule.

That big day of intra-division games gets underway with four of them in the early afternoon time slot. At 12 noon Central, football fans get games in the AFC and NFC North and South divisions:

  • NFC North: Bears-Vikings
  • NFC South: Panthers-Falcons
  • AFC North: Bengals-Steelers
  • AFC South: Texans-Titans

That should be a fun set of matchups early, but the late afternoon is where the really impressive divisional games kick off. There are four games starting at either 3:05 or 3:25 PM Central, and all four are divisional rivalries. On FOX, the entire NFC West is in action, with Seahawks-Rams set up as a battle of the NFL’s top two teams in DVOA as well as a fight for the #1 spot in that division. 49ers-Cardinals takes place at the same time, though neither game gets a very wide TV audience.

That’s because CBS has a big AFC West game as their doubleheader contest, as the Chiefs and Broncos face off with Kansas City sitting 2.5 games back coming in. If the Broncos could pull out a win today, that would make it an extraordinarily difficult challenge for the Chiefs to overcome if they hope to win their division for a whopping 10th straight season.

There’s also a Ravens-Browns game on at the same time, but let’s face it, that’s the least exciting of those four late afternoon games. Then the schedule wraps up with what should be another great game in prime time. It’s not a divisional matchup, but two of the NFC’s top teams will still be meeting as the Detroit Lions visit the Philadelphia Eagles.

Strap in for a big day around the NFL and discuss all of the games here in the comments.

Visiting TeamHome TeamVenueCity, StateTime (CT)TV Network
Washington CommandersMiami DolphinsSantiago BernabeuMadrid, Spain8:30 AMNFL Network
Green Bay PackersNew York GiantsMetLife StadiumEast Rutherford, NJ12:00 PMFOX
Chicago BearsMinnesota VikingsU.S. Bank StadiumMinneapolis, MN12:00 PMFOX
Carolina PanthersAtlanta FalconsMercedes-Benz StadiumAtlanta, GA12:00 PMFOX
Houston TexansTennessee TitansNissan StadiumNashville, TN12:00 PMFOX
Tampa Bay BuccaneersBuffalo BillsHighmark StadiumOrchard Park, NY12:00 PMCBS
Cincinnati BengalsPittsburgh SteelersAcrisure StadiumPittsburgh, PA12:00 PMCBS
Los Angeles ChargersJacksonville JaguarsEverBank FieldJacksonville, FL12:00 PMCBS
Seattle SeahawksLos Angeles RamsSoFi StadiumInglewood, CA3:05 PMFOX
San Francisco 49ersArizona CardinalsState Farm StadiumGlendale, AZ3:05 PMFOX
Kansas City ChiefsDenver BroncosEmpower Field at Mile HighDenver, CO3:25 PMCBS
Baltimore RavensCleveland BrownsHuntington Bank StadiumCleveland, OH3:25 PMCBS
Detroit LionsPhiladelphia EaglesLincoln Financial FieldPhiladelphia, PA7:20 PMNBC

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NFC Playoff Picture: Green Bay Packers win to keep pace in NFC North

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The Green Bay Packers won on Sunday and they stay in playoff position. When the Detroit Lions lost on Sunday night, the Packers moved up into sixth place in the conference after occupying the seventh slot.

The Chicago Bears were on the ropes late against the Minnesota Vikings but found a way to win, so they sneak ahead of the Packers. Chicago leads the NFC North at least for right now. The Detroit Lions lost on Sunday night against the Philadelphia Eagles, plummeting out of the playoff picture completely.

The San Francisco 49ers won but remain just out of the playoff picture. If the Lions lose to fall to 6-4, the 49ers are in position and Detroit is out.

The Los Angeles Rams defeated the Seattle Seahawks to shake up the NFC West and drop Seattle into the wild card race.

The Philadelphia Eagles beat the Detroit Lions to ascend to first place once again after the Rams briefly held the top spot in the afternoon.

The Lions are 6-4 while the Carolina Panthers are on the doorstep at 6-5.

NFC standings after Week 11​


The Dallas Cowboys play on Monday night but won’t change the standings at all.

1. Philadelphia Eagles (8-2, win over LAR)
2. Los Angeles Rams (8-2, loss to PHI)
3. Chicago Bears (7-3)
4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (6-4)
5. Seattle Seahawks (7-3)
6. Green Bay Packers (6-3-1)
7. San Francisco 49ers (7-4)
8. Detroit Lions (6-4)
9. Carolina Panthers (6-5)
10. Minnesota Vikings (4-6)
11. Dallas Cowboys (3-5-1)
12. Arizona Cardinals (3-7)
13. Atlanta Falcons (3-7)
14. Washington Commanders (3-8)
15. New Orleans Saints (2-8)
16. New York Giants (2-9)

NFC North standings after Week 11​


1. Chicago Bears (7-3)
2. Green Bay Packers (6-3-1)
3. Detroit Lions (6-4)
4. Minnesota Vikings (4-6)

The Lions fell behind the Packers and out of the NFL playoff picture with their Sunday night loss to the Eagles. The Packers and Bears atop the NFC North feels like a throwback.

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Packers Week 12 Odds: Green Bay favored at home vs. Minnesota Vikings

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The Green Bay Packers’ struggles against the point spread continued on Sunday in week 10. A Packers team that game into week 11 with a 3-6 record against the spread sat right on it against the New York Giants. Depending on the sportsbook, the Packers were favored by either 7 or 7.5 points, and their 27-20 victory was at best a push.

The Packers return home in week 12 after their brief road trip, finally getting set to play their second NFC North rivalry game of the season and their first since week 1. Up on the docket this week are the Minnesota Vikings, who lost 19-17 to the Chicago Bears on Sunday to fall to 4-6 on the season.

J.J. McCarthy’s first season as a starter has been a rough one aside from one impressive fourth quarter in the Vikings’ opening-week win over the Bears. Overall, he is completing less than 53 percent of his passes and has more interceptions (8) than touchdown passes (6). It’s certainly no surprise that the Packers are favored in this game, but McCarthy’s struggles are surely a reason for the size of the point spread.

According to FanDuel sportsbook, the Packers open up this week as 6.5-point favorites. If that line holds, it would be the sixth time they have been favored by 6.5 points all season, but they have yet to successfully cover a spread of that size in any of the previous five.

Despite the Packers’ struggles against the spread, the Vikings are not much better this season. They are 4-6, with each of their four covers coming in the four games they have won outright. However, Minnesota did pull off an upset victory over the Detroit Lions on the road three weeks ago, defeating the Lions 27-24 despite coming in as 9.5-point underdogs.

This week’s Packers-Vikings game also is expected to be on the lower-scoring side. FanDuel has the total points over/under line set at 42.5.

Las season, the Vikings swept the season series against the Packers, winning each of the two games by just two points. In both contests, the Packers allowed Minnesota to jump out to big leads before mounting second-half comebacks that fell just short. Green Bay will need to start faster than they did in either of those contests or in their most recent few games this season to cover this week’s spread of nearly a touchdown.

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Former Green Bay Packers win CFL’s Grey Cup

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While seven Canadians must be on the field at all times in the Canadian Football League, there is American talent that makes its way up north of the border. On Sunday, the Saskatchewan Roughriders took down the Montreal Alouettes in a 25-17 Grey Cup victory that featured former Green Bay Packers on both sides.

For the winning Roughriders, the former Packers on the team were defensive tackle Micah Johnson and safety Benny Sapp III.

Johnson was Kentucky’s Mr. Football as a prep, earning Under Armour All-American honors. Staying in-state for college, Johnson was a first-team All-SEC linebacker for the Wildcats before joining the NFL as an undrafted free agent. The Packers were his fifth team in the league, joining the practice squad in late 2012 and staying on the offseason roster in 2013 on a reserve/futures deal until May of that year.

That was his last stop in the NFL before going up to Canada, where, at 37 years old, he was just named a CFL All-Star for the fifth time this year as a 255-pound defensive tackle. Fun fact: Former Packers receiver Keon Hatcher was just named to his second All-Star team, too, in 2025.

Micah Johnson sniffs out the screen pass like a hound dog on the hunt 🐶#CFL #GreyCup #Riders #RiderNation
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— 3DownNation (@3DownNation) November 17, 2025

This was Johnson’s third Grey Cup victory.

Sapp was on the Roughriders’ injury list for this game, so he didn’t get to play in the Grey Cup, but was a preseason favorite for the effort he put up in his rookie season of 2023. As a rookie, he was brought up from the Packers’ practice squad and wound up playing in five regular-season games. After he was released by Green Bay at roster cutdowns in 2024, he later signed with the Atlanta Falcons that December. Back in June, he was released by the Falcons, leading to him going the Canadian route.

On Montreal’s end, there are three — yes, three — former Packers in their secondary. The one Green Bay fans might remember because if Kabion Ento, the converted receiver to cornerback, who was with the team from 2019 to 2022. Ento was named an All-Star for the Alouttes in 2024.

Another Montreal cornerback, Don Callis, was signed to Green Bay in 2024 after a successful tryout at the Packers’ rookie minicamp. He signed with the Alouttes in April.

The final former Packers in the Montreal secondary is safety Marc-Antoine Dequoy, who is actually a Canadian national. Green Bay signed Dequoy straight out of the University of Montreal, making him just the second Canadian to be signed to an NFL team on draft weekend in NFL history, back in 2020.

The Packers dipped back into that Canadian pipeline recently, when they signed quarterback Taylor Elgersma from Wilfrid Laurier in May of this year.

After Deqouy was unable to make Green Bay’s initial roster as a rookie, he went back home and signed with the local Alouttes. Since starting his professional career in Canada, he’s earned two All-Star honors (2023 and 2024).

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Packers Film Room: Christian Watson doubles up in the end zone

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The Green Bay Packers got back in the win column on Sunday against the New York Giants, and we’re here doing what we always do. Win or lose, rain or shine, we’re looking at the Packers’ passing game, and today that includes some incredible performances by quarterback Jordan Love and receiver Christian Watson. So let’s get started.

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The raw numbers are nothing to write home about — no one is getting hyped over a 54.2% completion rate — but there’s quite a bit of context missing from just the numbers. I charted Packers receivers with 6 drops, accounting for ~92 lost yards. Add in those drops and lost yardage (and remove the throwaway) and Love is sitting on a line that looks a little better. That adjusted line is 19/23 (82.6%), 266 yards (11.6 YPA) and 2 TDs (143.8 QB Rating). Adjusting numbers is tricky business on all sides (the 3rd down drops likely lead to more yardage & more TD opportunities, but the game flow would change, potentially leading to either more or fewer attempts), but it’s a fun thought experiment.

I bring up the adjusted stat line for a couple of reasons. The first reason is that drops were a huge story in this game, and I wanted to make sure I was accounting for them in some way. The other reason is that the adjusted stat line tells a more accurate story of how Love played this past weekend.

NFL Pro also liked his performance. His EPA per Dropback of +0.25 was the 5th-highest mark of the week. For the season, Love is tied with Josh Allen for best EPA Per Dropback in the league at +0.20 (Drake Maye is 1st at +0.21).

The Packers made a point to push the ball down the field in this game, with Love sporting an ADOT (Average Depth of Target) of 13.2 yards, his second-highest mark of the season (his top mark was 14.5 ADOT against the Commanders in Week 2) and the highest ADOT for any QB in Week 11.

After a couple of weeks of not leaning into play action, the Packers got back to making it a big part of their offense this week. Their 33.3% play action rate was the highest since the Week 6 game against the Bengals (40.6%), and Love performed well, if not exactly in the way it was drawn up. On play action snaps, Love was 4/8 for 71 yards, for an EPA Per Dropback of +0.35. (One of those incomplete passes was a 14-yard drop.)

Breaking away from the numbers, Love looked really good in the film. I wrote about the passing game last week and stripped some of the blame away from Love. I still feel that mainly to be true, but, after having rewatched all of Love’s dropbacks a few times after writing that piece, I changed my mind slightly. He was still far from the main issue against the Eagles, but there were moments where he was more hesitant to let it rip than I had originally thought. On a few of those moments, he immediately threw to the shortest possible option instead of reading out the concept.

That hesitance was gone in this game, so we were likely seeing the effects of the Eagles’ defense last week. Love did a great job seeing what the defense was doing, then finding the right answer within the concept. This was a much cleaner game from Love, which was certainly encouraging.

Before we get out of here, we’re going to take a look at the two TD passes to Christian Watson.

Play 1: 3rd & 1, 14:00 remaining in the 2nd quarter​


The Packers were down 7-0 after the first Giants drive of the afternoon. On their second offensive drive, Jordan Love left with an injury after a scramble, putting Malik Willis at the helm, facing 2nd & 16 on the Giants’ 40-yard line. Some nice runs got the Packers down into the red zone. A completion to John FitzPatrick set them up with a 1st & goal at the 5. Two straight runs got them to the 1-yard line.

On 3rd & goal from the 1, the Packers came out in 611 personnel (6 OL, 1 RB, 1 TE, 2 WR). They set heavy to the right, with Darian Kinnard [70] and John FitzPatrick [86] in line on the right side. Romeo Doubs [87] is split wide to the left while Christian Watson [9] is split wide to the right. Josh Jacobs [8] is the single back.

At the snap, Malik Willis [2] fakes to Jacobs up the middle, then boots to the right. FitzPatrick initially blocks down before releasing to the flat, while Watson releases with an inside path before bending back outside to the back pylon.

With Brian Burns [0] crashing down on Willis and FitzPatrick not open in the flat, Willis throws back to Watson in the middle of the field. (With Doubs running a crossing route from the other side, I initially thought that Doubs could have possibly been the target here, but Willis is looking at Watson the entire way.)

Watson makes a tremendous adjustment to stop on his route, then catches the ball through the hands of Deonte Banks [2].

It’s a great play by Willis and an absurd catch from Watson.

Play 2: 2nd & 7, 4:07 remaining in the 4th quarter​


The Giants had just scored a TD to take a 1-point lead with 7:22 left in the game. The Packers started the drive on their own 35 and made their way down the field, thanks in large part to a huge catch by Savion Williams on 3rd & 10.

After a 13-yard gain to Doubs on 1st & 20, the Packers now find themselves facing 2nd & 7, down 20-19.

They come out in 11 personnel (1 RB, 1 TE, 3 WR) in a 2×2 shotgun spread look. On the right side, John FitzPatrick is on the outside while Christian Watson is in the slot. On the left, Doubs is the front man in a stack, with Matthew Golden [0] underneath.

On the left, they’re running a kind of pick play for Emanuel Wilson [23] out of the backfield and a delayed in-cutter from Doubs. On the right side, they’re running Smash Fade, with FitzPatrick running a quick hitch and Watson running a deep fade over the top.

The Giants are showing a single-high safety pre-snap. Given the fact that the Giants’ defense doesn’t disguise much of their defense, it’s a safe bet that they’re running a single-high defense post-snap. The fade route to Watson is a good answer to that coverage, so that’s likely what Love is thinking from the jump.

The snap is high and to Love’s left, which causes him to double-catch the snap. Between the single-high look, the high snap, and the pressure that has been in Love’s face all day (the 44.4% pressure rate was the second-highest pressure rate Love has faced all season), he decides to take the fade to Watson.

Watson goes up over two defenders to bring in the pass, giving the Packers the lead with 4:02 remaining in the game. A 2-point conversion gives the Packers a 7-point lead.

An interception by Evan Williams…

…and a sack by Micah Parsons…

…salts the game away.

For the day, Christian Watson had 4 catches on 5 targets (with that 5th target being a go route on 3rd down that glanced off his hands) for 46 yards and 2 TDs.

Coming into this game, the Packers were 11th in the league at scoring TDs in the red zone, scoring a TD on 63.9% of their red zone trips. If you watch the best red zone scoring offenses in the league, they have at least 1 of these 3 things:

  1. A good running game
  2. A QB who is good at scrambling
  3. A freak WR who you can just throw the ball up to

There’s obviously more to it than that, but if you have at least one of those things, you’re likely to have a pretty good red zone scoring offense.

This year the Packers don’t have #1 and don’t really have #2 (Love has been a more willing scrambler this year, but I don’t know that he has been a particularly good one). If Watson is once again emerging as the #3, maybe we’ll start seeing an improvement in the red zone offense.



Albums listened to: White Lies – Night Light; Swim School – Swim School; Miles Benjamin Anthony Robinson – Summer of Fear; Interpol – Turn on the Bright Lights; The Mynabirds – It’s Okay To Go Back If You Keep Moving Forward; Rosalía – LUX

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The Packers want to get Luke Musgrave on the field more. Why?

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The Packers’ 2023 draft class was about as exciting as I could possibly imagine. That year, Brian Gutekunst invested not one, but two top 100 picks on tight ends in what was considered a very tight end-rich class. Between Luke Musgrave and Tucker Kraft, visions of 12 personnel danced in my head, not to mention the intriguing individual talents both presented.

And while Kraft has lived up to every expectation and more, Musgrave has struggled. The Packers force-fed him the football through the first half of his rookie season, but after a lacerated kidney sidelined him, he has never really found his feet since. That pun is very much intended, as the fact that Musgrave seems to fall over untouched on just about every one of his receptions.

But Sunday’s output might have been the nadir of the Musgrave experience. On two targets, Musgrave produced one catch for -1 yards, fumbling his lone reception out of bounds. His second target probably should have been ruled a fumble as well, but Musgrave was let off the hook on review.

All of that went down in the first half, and Musgrave was essentially benched after the break. Packers tight ends logged a combined 29 snaps in the second half of the Giants’ game, and just two of those snaps belonged to Musgrave. There’s really no two ways about it: Musgrave got benched.

Except, Packers head coach Matt LaFleur says that was a mistake.

“He absolutely needs to play more than whatever snaps he played in the second half,” LaFleur said on Monday. “We’ll make sure that happens.”

But why? I am as pro-tight end as you could possibly imagine. My love for the position is a core part of the brand I lovingly co-parent with my Acme Packing Company colleague Zach Rapport. There’s nothing I’d love more than to see the Packers commit to a more tight end-centric vision of the future.

But we’re running contrary to the evidence at this point. The 12-personnel offense is dead in Green Bay, or it should be. With a host of young, athletic receivers and dearth of tight end talent, the Packers should be leaning more into the 11-personnel offense of the past. They simply don’t have the horses to make a multi-tight end offense go.

Musgrave, in particular, does not seem to have a role in whatever iteration of the offense the Packers want to run now. He’s not much of a blocker (he’s certainly worse than John FitzPatrick) and he can’t do the fullback-adjacent stuff that Josh Whyle does (though Whyle has a very similar build to Musgrave). Given that he doesn’t add much as a receiver (just 20 catches for 155 yards over his past 17 appearances; he hasn’t scored a touchdown since 2023) and doesn’t play on special teams (four snaps total on special teams over the past six games), it’s worth asking why the Packers would want to commit to getting him on the field.

As a former second round pick, Musgrave must have some organizational cachet still going for him. There’s really no other reason the Packers should be trying to make this happen, and hopefully LaFleur’s vote of confidence was just press conference bluster.

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Packers RB Josh Jacobs won’t practice on Wednesday

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In his pre-practice press conference on Wednesday, Green Bay Packers head coach Matt LaFleur told the media that running back Josh Jacobs, who left Sunday’s game with a knee contusion, will not be practicing with the team on Wednesday. Previously, it was revealed that Jacobs’ injury was not of a season-ending nature, but the coach wouldn’t commit to Jacobs playing against the Minnesota Vikings this week. On Wednesday, LaFleur called Jacobs’ injury “day-to-day.”

Beyond just Jacobs’ situation, neither running back MarShawn Lloyd (hamstring) nor receiver Jayden Reed (foot/collarbone) will begin their 21-day practice window this week. Both players are on the injured reserve and are expected to return to the active roster before the regular season is over.

Without Lloyd and Jacobs, the only three running backs for the Packers in practice today will be Emanuel Wilson, blocking back Chris Brooks and practice squad running back Pierre Strong Jr. If Jacobs can’t go on Sunday, assume that Strong will be promoted to the 48-man gameday roster.

Last week, Wilson outsnapped Brooks 36-5, even with Jacobs out for three quarters of the game. There’s a good chance that Brooks remains in the blocking back role, even if Jacobs misses the game, which would mean that it would be Strong backing up Wilson in normal down and distance situations.

Strong was drafted in the fourth round of the 2022 draft by the New England Patriots and has played in 46 regular-season games in the NFL. He’s turned 99 carries into 499 rushing yards (5.0 YPC) and two touchdowns. He’s also caught 26 balls for 193 yards (7.4 YPR). Strong signed with the Packers’ practice squad in Week 2. He was previously activated from the practice squad in Week 7 against the Arizona Cardinals, but was a healthy scratch in that game when Jacobs (then questionable with an illness/calf injury) was able to suit up for action.

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Packers-Vikings Injury Report: Jordan Love was a full go on Wednesday

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There was some hope earlier this week that either running back MarShawn Lloyd or receiver Jayden Reed would return to the 53-man roster after a stint on the injured reserve. On Monday, when Green Bay Packers head coach Matt LaFleur was asked if the team was going to open either of their 21-day practice windows this week, LaFleur said, “I sure as heck hope so.

But Wednesday has now come, the first day of the Packers’ practices leading up to their matchup against the Minnesota Vikings, and neither player seems ready to go. It’ll be at least one more week before Green Bay’s offense gets some reinforcements at the skill positions. Stay patient.

Beyond the lack of injured reserve activations, here’s what we know about the Packers and Vikings’ injury statuses.

Packers’ non-participants​

  • RB Josh Jacobs (knee)
  • WR Savion Williams (foot)
  • DT Karl Brooks (ankle)
  • LB Quay Walker (neck)
  • CB Nate Hobbs (knee)

Running back Josh Jacobs and linebacker Quay Walker were both injured in Sunday’s win against the New York Giants and did not practice today. If they can’t go against the Vikings, their replacements will be Emanuel Wilson and Isaiah McDuffie, respectively. McDuffie previously played the third-linebacker role for the Packers, which Ty’Ron Hopper subbed in at when McDuffie moved to Mike linebacker in-game this weekend.

If you want to read our full depth chart update after studying last week’s action, you can find that HERE.

Cornerback Nate Hobbs looks like he’s on pace to miss his third-straight game with his MCL sprain. Without Hobbs, the Packers have started Carrington Valentine full-time opposite Keisean Nixon. Honestly, it’s worked out pretty well.

Savion Williams is in a walking boot right now, managing a pain issue, but he’s been playing on game days as a gadget player on offense and as a kick returner. Assume that he’s going to go on Sunday, unless he remains a non-participant throughout the week.

The only new injury to the bunch is defensive tackle Karl Brooks, who played through the end of the Giants game, but is now listed with an ankle injury. Keep an eye on this one.

Packers’ limited participants​

  • WR Romeo Doubs (wrist)
  • WR Christian Watson (knee)
  • WR Matthew Golden (shoulder/wrist)
  • WR Dontayvion Wicks (calf)
  • RT Zach Tom (back)
  • DE Micah Parsons (pectoral)
  • DE Lukas Van Ness (foot)
  • LB Edgerrin Cooper (foot)
  • CB Keisean Nixon (illness)
  • S Javon Bullard (ankle)

For the most part, these injuries are just nagging issues that players are dealing with. The only new statuses since Sunday are with cornerback Keisean Nixon (illness) and safety Javon Bullard (ankle). Otherwise, the remaining players all suited up against the Giants, despite these prior injuries, other than defensive end Lukas Van Ness, who was listed as questionable going into the game.

Keep an eye on the Bullard and Van Ness injuries down the stretch, in particular. We don’t have a clear understanding of what these injuries mean for their Week 12 status. Van Ness seemed to be close to returning to action last week, but this week is still not promised.

Packers’ Full Participants​

  • QB Jordan Love (shoulder)
  • K Brandon McManus (quadricep)

Hey, some good news! Both quarterback Jordan Love, who injured his left shoulder against the Giants, and kicker Brandon McManus, who missed the game entirely, were full participants today. I’m going to assume that McManus is back active against the Vikings this week, assuming another late injury setback doesn’t force Lucas Havrisik back into the lineup.

Vikings’ non-participants​

  • RG Will Fries (knee)
  • ED Jonathan Greenard (shoulder)

Minnesota didn’t have a practice on Wednesday, so their player statuses are only estimations. With that being said, they did estimate that two of their starters would have been non-participants today. Guard Will Fries was the team’s big free agent signing this offseason, inking a five-year, $88 million deal. Pass-rusher Jonathan Greenard is another high-priced player, currently on a four-year $76 million contract.

Approximately 32% of the Packers roster on the injury report. pic.twitter.com/M4pDtdVPmP

— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) November 19, 2025

Source: https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/...report-jordan-love-was-a-full-go-on-wednesday
 
Josh Jacobs will practice for the Packers on Thursday

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After missing Wednesday’s practice with a knee injury, Green Bay Packers starting running back Josh Jacobs will return to the field on Thursday, at least in limited looks. Jacobs suffered a knee contusion against the New York Giants on Sunday, knocking him out of the game after the team’s second drive. In his pre-practice press conference on Thursday, head coach Matt LaFleur said that Jacobs would practice later today, but that how much he would do on Thursday was still being decided on.

At a minimum, Jacobs would be participating in individual drills today, though, per LaFleur. Wednesday was not a fully-padded practice for the Packers, so today might be the team’s most intensive practice of the week leading up to Sunday’s action.

Something to remember here: Green Bay will have a short turnaround after this week, as they play the Detroit Lions on Thanksgiving. Almost certainly, that will play a factor in the equation, too.

Interestingly, though, the Packers didn’t work out any extra running backs this week or open the 21-day practice window for MarShawn Lloyd, who is currently on the injured reserve. Green Bay generally carries three running backs on the 48-man gameday roster, but only Emanuel Wilson and Chris Brooks are healthy on the 53-man roster.

If Jacobs doesn’t go against the Minnesota Vikings this week, the team must be confident in the ability that practice squad running back Pierre Strong Jr. has shown. That’s especially true considering that Brooks has mostly been limited to a blocking back role in his two years in Green Bay.

Source: https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/...the-packers-on-thursday-injury-update-week-12
 
Thursday Night Football, Week 12: Bills and Texans face off

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Thursday has arrived, and with it is the start of football in week 12. Tonight, football fans will get a matchup between teams that have recently been staples of the AFC playoff field with the Bills visiting the Texans.

Buffalo has made the postseason in six straight seasons and seven of eight starting in 2017. That year ended a 17-year playoff drought that dated back to the 1999 season. Meanwhile, Houston is coming off back-to-back division titles and home Wild Card victories in DeMeco Ryans’ first two seasons as the Texans’ head coach.

This season has been a bit of a struggle for Houston; despite having the NFL’s top-ranked defense by both points and yards allowed, the Texans are just 5-5 and sit in 3rd place in the AFC South. They are one of three teams with a .500 record, but those teams are all one game back of the AFC’s final playoff spot. The Bills, meanwhile, sit 1.5 games back of the Patriots in the AFC East.

Tune in tonight to see which of these teams can take a big step forward in the playoff race as we begin to turn the corner towards the home stretch of the 2025 regular season.

WHO?​


Buffalo Bills (7-3) vs. Houston Texans (5-5)

WHERE?​


NRG Stadium
Houston, Texas

WHEN?​


Thursday, November 20, 2025
7:15 PM Central Time

HOW?​


Amazon Prime
Commentators: Al Michaels, Kirk Herbstreit

WHAT ELSE?​

Odds​


Point spread: Bills -5.5
Over/under total: 43.5

Last Meeting​


2024 Week 5: @Texans 23, Bills 20

All-Time Head-to-Head​


Regular season: Texans lead 6-5-0
Postseason: Texans lead 1-0 (2019 Wild Card)

Source: https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/...ht-football-week-12-bills-and-texans-face-off
 
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