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Steelers open as 3.5 point underdogs against Packers

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Following a defensive train-wreck in a 33-31 loss to the Cincinnati Bengals on Thursday night, the Steelers will look to get back on track in Aaron Rodgers’ first matchup against his former team.

The Green Bay Packers will visit Acrisure Stadium next Sunday night, and the oddsmakers at FanDuel Sportsbook have pegged the visitors as three-point favorites.

Obviously, it’s very early in the week – and the Packers haven’t even played their week 7 game. They will travel to Arizona this Sunday, looking to improve to 4-1, and of course, stay healthy before the much-anticipated matchup.

Rodgers threw four touchdowns and led the black and gold to a late fourth-quarter lead after hitting Pat Freiermuth for a 68-yard score, but the Steelers’ leaky defense was ripped apart by a Bengals offense led by Joe Flacco, who arrived in Cincy just ten days ago.

The 41-year-old signal-caller has 14 TDs through six games, but he’ll need his defense to respond to adversity against a loaded Green Bay offense.

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Friday Night Happy Hour: Trap Game Blues Edition

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Welcome back to BTSC’s Friday night open thread:

  1. Well, unfortunately, a lot of our BTSC comment section voices get to give a big, fat, “I told you so,” tonight after the Steelers have once again failed to secure a Thursday Night Football win on the road. Consider this space your therapist’s couch, your cathedral, or your open seat at the bar: tell us your reactions following the 33-31 loss to Cincinnati. What do you think was the biggest contributing factor in the loss?
  2. Continuing on that thought: Do you consider this loss a blip or a cause for greater concern moving forward? Will the Steelers recover and win the division, or was this a turning point for the season?
  3. Last night I got the unfortunate experience of watching both my teams crash and burn on national TV simultaneously, as I am a Seattle resident who loves the Steelers and my hometown baseball team, the Mariners. I know the Pirates have been embattled for some time, so maybe this is more about the Penguins, or the Pitt Panthers, or Penn State, or something else entirely for you, but I was curious: Do y’all have any teams you root for whose losses sting just as bad or worse than a Steelers loss?
  4. And lastly, following a tough loss, do you have any traditions or go to activities to put it out of your mind and move on? Will you be doing anything fun this weekend with your Sunday free from Steelers football?
  5. Song(s) of the Week:

    In honor/shame of both my beloved Steelers and Mariners breaking my heart last night, it seems only fitting to return with another double shot of music tonight.

    First up, while the cover by Cheap Trick might be a more well-known version to current generations, I was always a fan of the original by Fats Domino. Cheers and batten the hatches.

    “Ain’t That A Shame” — Fats Domino

And in honor of my Seattle roots, we’ll also be offering a “bottom’s up” to the tune of this Nirvana cover of an old blues song, “Ain’t It a Shame to Go Fishin’ on a Sunday” by Leadbelly.

“Ain’t It A Shame” — Nirvana

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Saturday College Football Open Thread: Week 8

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It’s Saturday and College Game Day is ruffing it in Bulldog territory: Austin, GA. The 5th ranked Bulldogs host the No. 9 Rebels (Ole Miss) at 3:30 p.m. on ABC.

Join your fellow Steelers fans and let us know what games you’re watching and which NFL prospects would look good in black and gold? Showtimes available on 506 Sports

  • 10 LSU @ 17 Vanderbilt 12:00PM ABC
  • Washington @ Michigan 12:00PM FOX
  • 12 Georgia Tech @ Duke 12:00PM ESPN
  • Baylor @ TCU 12:00PM ESPN2
  • Arizona @ Houston 12:00PM FS1
  • Army @ Tulane 12:00PM ESPNU
  • Connecticut @ Boston College 12:00PM ACCN
  • Central Michigan @ Bowling Green 12:00PM CBSSN
  • Eastern Michigan @ Miami (OH) 12:00PM ESPN+
  • 14 Oklahoma @ South Carolina 12:45PM SECN
  • West Virginia @ UCF 1:00PM TNT
  • Buffalo @ Massachusetts 2:00PM ESPN+
  • Kent State @ Toledo 2:00PM ESPN+
  • Purdue @ Northwestern 3:00PM BTN
  • Troy @ ULM 3:00PM ESPN+
  • 5 Ole Miss @ 9 Georgia 3:30PM ABC
  • 1 Ohio State @ Wisconsin 3:30PM CBS
  • 4 Texas A&M @ Arkansas 3:30PM ESPN
  • UNLV @ Boise State 3:30PM FS1
  • Old Dominion @ James Madison 3:30PM ESPNU
  • SMU @ Clemson 3:30PM ACCN
  • Wyoming @ Air Force 3:30PM CBSSN
  • Michigan State @ 3 Indiana 3:30PM Peacock
  • Akron @ Ball State 3:30PM ESPN+
  • Coastal Carolina @ Appalachian State 3:30PM ESPN+
  • Northern Illinois @ Ohio 3:30PM ESPN+
  • Temple @ Charlotte 3:30PM ESPN+
  • Texas State @ Marshall 3:30PM ESPN+
  • UTSA @ North Texas 3:30PM ESPN+
  • 7 Texas Tech @ Arizona State 4:00PM FOX
  • 22 Memphis @ UAB 4:00PM ESPN2
  • Mississippi State @ Florida 4:15PM SECN
  • Southern Mississippi @ Louisiana 5:00PM ESPN+
  • Washington State @ 18 Virginia 6:30PM CW
  • 8 Oregon @ Rutgers 6:30PM BTN
  • 21 Texas @ Kentucky 7:00PM ESPN
  • Maryland @ UCLA 7:00PM FS1
  • Hawaii @ Colorado State 7:00PM Spectrum Hawaii, MWC Digital
  • Penn State @ Iowa 7:00PM Peacock
  • Georgia State @ Georgia Southern 7:00PM ESPN+
  • 11 Tennessee @ 6 Alabama 7:30PM ABC
  • 20 USC @ 13 Notre Dame 7:30PM NBC
  • Florida Atlantic @ 19 USF 7:30PM ESPNU
  • Pittsburgh @ Syracuse 7:30PM ACCN
  • 16 Missouri @ Auburn 7:45PM SECN
  • 23 Utah @ 15 BYU 8:00PM FOX
  • 24 Cincinnati @ Oklahoma State 8:00PM ESPN2
  • Nevada @ New Mexico 9:45PM FS1L
  • Lafayette @ Oregon State 10:00PM CW
  • Florida State @ Stanford 10:30PM ESPN

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Pittsburgh Steelers fall in AFC standings after Week 7 loss

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The Pittsburgh Steelers fell to 4-2 on Thursday night, but that didn’t mean they would fall far in the AFC playoff race. After the New England Patriots win, the Steelers fell to fourth place.

If the Los Angeles Chargers win on Sunday afternoon, the Steelers will stick in fourth place in the conference. If the Chargers lose, Pittsburgh moves up to third.

AFC playoff standings during Week 7​


The Indianapolis Colts stay in first place in the conference with a 5-1 record, but they play late against the AFC West-leading Los Angeles Chargers. At least one of them is going to lose.

The 5-2 New England Patriots lead the AFC East and sit in second place in the conference. They will stay there to finish the week. The Buffalo Bills are 4-2 on the bye and will stay in the wild card mix.

The Denver Broncos begin Week 7 with the same 4-2 record the Steelers have, but they still play in the late window.

The Bills and Ravens were on the bye this week.

1. Indianapolis Colts (5-1)
2. New England Patriots (5-2)
3. Los Angeles Chargers (4-2, win over DEN, 4-0 AFC)
4. Pittsburgh Steelers (4-2, 3-1 AFC)
5. Buffalo Bills (4-2, 3-1 AFC)
6. Denver Broncos (4-2, loss to LAC, 3-2 AFC)
7. Jacksonville Jaguars (4-3, win over KC)
8. Kansas City Chiefs (4-3, loss to JAX)
9. Cincinnati Bengals (3-4)
10. Houston Texans (2-3)
11. Las Vegas Raiders (2-5)
12. Cleveland Browns (2-5)
13. Baltimore Ravens (1-5)
14. Miami Dolphins (1-6)
15. Tennessee Titans (1-6)
16. New York Jets (0-7)

AFC North standings after Week 7​


1. Pittsburgh Steelers (4-2)
2. Cincinnati Bengals (3-4)
3. Cleveland Browns (2-5)
4. Baltimore Ravens (1-5)

The Steelers and Bengals open Week 7 on Thursday night, with the Browns playing Sunday and the Ravens on a bye.

Source: https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.c...elers-fall-in-afc-standings-after-week-7-loss
 
Falcons at 49ers: Week 7 SNF open thread

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It’s a surprising battle of NFC heavyweights to close out Sunday of Week 7. The now-3-2 Falcons looked for real last week, beating the Buffalo Bills by two scores. The 49ers, on the other hand, sit at a strong 4-2 despite dealing with a brutal number of injuries to their stars for yet another season.

Who are you rooting for? What are you watching for? Have anyone in fantasy football? Let us know, and enjoy the game with your fellow Steeler fans.

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No, the Steelers should not sign Tyler Lockett

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The Steelers continue to be connected to just about every wide receiver reportedly available around the league, and now a new name has entered the fray.

Tyler Lockett has requested, and was granted his release from the Tennessee Titans. The veteran wideout is in his 11th year, and has 10 catches on the year. He spent the first 10 sesons of his career with the Seattle Seahakws, and was teammates with DK Metcalf for seven seasons. This made many a Steeler fan raise their hand and ask if Lockett should be the guy that Pittsburgh brings in, to which my answer is a resounding no.

Veteran WR Tyler Lockett has asked for and received his release from the Tennessee Titans, per source. Lockett is expected to be free to sign with another team after 4 pm ET Wednesday. pic.twitter.com/GpDxmoOe3U

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) October 20, 2025

Lockett isn’t going to change anything offensively for the Steelers, respectfully speaking. With all the names reportedly available – Chris Olave, Rashid Shaheed, Jakobi Meyers – Lockett would be incredibly underwhelming. At least if it does end up being Allen Lazard, he has a built-in chemistry with Aaron Rodgers that would end up being useful. Lockett had a massive regress year in 2024, catching 49 passes after catching 79 in 2023.

If the Steelers want to take a step forward at the deadline, they will need to bring in a notable name. A declining veteran isn’t going to be the missing piece that helps them win in the postseason. A Chris Olvae or Jakobi Meyers, though? That may get it done.

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Let’s talk Steelers: Is Pittsburgh more QB-friendly than we think?

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If there’s one trait NFL teams value most from their coaches, it’s quarterback development. If you can find someone who can put your most important player in a position to succeed, chances are you’ll have a good shot at developing them into a true franchise passer.

The Steelers generally aren’t considered in that category of teams primed to develop a young quarterback, but there’s a growing body of evidence that might suggest otherwise.

Are the Steelers actually a quarterback-friendly team?​


This is a thought that started to creep into my mind following what has been a disastrous start to the season for former Pittsburgh quarterbacks. Justin Fields, who has failed to throw for over 100 yards the last two weeks combined, was finally benched by the Jets. Russell Wilson has officially been replaced by Jaxson Dart on the Giants after being thoroughly outplayed by the rookie.

And Kenny Pickett, although he played just five snaps on Sunday, had one of the week’s uglier plays and is on his fourth team in three years.

That’s to say, all three passers had far more success in Pittsburgh. And in Fields and Wilson’s cases, each did enough during their time as a Steeler to convince a portion of the fanbase that they should’ve returned to the black and gold in 2025.

But instead, Pittsburgh chose to sign Aaron Rodgers ahead of this season. And in line with Fields and Wilson, he’s currently enjoying the most success he’s had in recent seasons.

On Monday, Steelers Now’s Alan Saunders pointed to Pittsburgh offensive coordinator Arthur Smith as a potential reason, citing his success with Ryan Tannehill in Tennessee as another piece of evidence for the case.

Justin Fields had the most success of his career with Arthur Smith and the #Steelers. He got $30m guaranteed from the #NYJets off that performance, only to be benched six games in.

Russell Wilson reversed a late-career slide here, only to resume it in NY.

Aaron Rodgers has…

— Alan Saunders (@ASaunders_PGH) October 20, 2025

The Steelers haven’t exactly had a high-level quarterback prospect to work with in a while. You can count Pickett, but his struggles with multiple other teams seem to point at his failed Steelers career being the result of a misinformed pick by the front office as much as poor development from the coaching staff. And of course, at the time the Steelers had Matt Canada at offensive coordinator, not Smith.

Since Ben Roethlisberger, the Steelers have done a lot with a little at the quarterback position. Head coach Mike Tomlin deserves some credit as well as he’s been the common denominator over those seasons, leading teams that have snuck into the playoffs after starting names such as Duck Hodges, Mason Rudolph, and Mitch Trubisky at quarterback along with the passers already mentioned.

Of course, Pittsburgh hasn’t developed a star quarterback since Ben Roethlisberger, and the team hasn’t managed to add to the league’s “reclamation project” trend at the position either. But it still stands that passers tend to have more success in Pittsburgh than at their other NFL stops.

While I wouldn’t put the Steelers in the same category as the Kevin O’Connell-coached Vikings anytime soon when it comes to the best landing spots for passers in the NFL, I would argue that Pittsburgh is a bit more quarterback-friendly than the current consensus. That’s good news as the team could be gearing up to draft one in the upcoming spring.

Is the Arthur Smith-led Steelers offense a sneaky-good landing spot for quarterbacks? Join the BTSC community and let us know in the comments!

Source: https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.c...rs-justin-fields-russell-wilson-kenny-pickett
 
Steelers inching closer to return of two defenders

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The Steelers are getting closer to gaining some defensive depth as midseason approaches. Head coach Mike Tomlin provided updates on linebacker Malik Harrison and cornerback Cory Trice Jr., both currently on injured reserve, in his Tuesday press conference.

Harrison, a former Raven who was signed to a two-year deal this offseason, went on IR following a knee injury in Week 1. The Steelers opened his 21-day practice window on Oct. 13, meaning he has just under two weeks left to be activated to the team’s roster.

“He’s working,” Tomlin said on Tuesday when asked if the team was close to activating Harrison. “He’s at that stage, in that 21-day window where he’s working. We’re just going to watch his work and let the quality of his work be our guide whether or not we consider him.”

Harrison was limited in practice ahead of the Steelers’ Thursday Night Football matchup against the Bengals. Although he wasn’t activated, he was listed as questionable leading up to the game.

Harrison is a run-stuffing linebacker with experience on both defense and special teams.

Tomlin also provided an update on Trice, who opened the season in IR with a hamstring injury, affirming that the young cornerback was close to returning to practice. Unlike Harrison, Trice’s 21-day window has not been opened yet.

Trice has shown promise throughout his career but has struggled with injuries. Since being drafted in 2023, he’s appeared in just six NFL games.

After placing safety and special teams Miles Killebrew on injured reserve, the Steelers have an open spot on their 53-man roster. They also have an open practice squad spot following the release of quarterback Logan Woodside.

Source: https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.c...-packers-injured-reserve-roster-depth-defense
 
Will Howard returns to Steelers practice

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Rookie quarterback Will Howard returned to Steelers practice on Wednesday, the team announced.

Howard, Pittsburgh’s sixth-round pick in 2025, was placed on injured reserve in August after missing the preseason with a hand injury. The team opened his 21-day practice window today, meaning he remains on IR but has three weeks to be activated. If not, he’ll remain on IR for the rest of the year.

After releasing practice squad quarterback Logan Woodside on Tuesday, Pittsburgh seems to be ready for Howard’s return.

Howard passed for 4,010 yards, 35 touchdowns, and 10 interceptions in 2024 for Ohio State, leading the Buckeyes to a national championship.

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‘This is a not a revenge game’: Aaron Rodgers shares his thoughts on facing Packers

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Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Aaron Rodgers will find himself in uncharted waters this Sunday, as he gets to face the team with which he collected four league MVP awards and won a Lombardi trophy.

Rodgers had an awkward last couple of years in Green Bay, in which he won two MVP awards after the selection of Jordan Love in the first round of the 2020 NFL Draft. Rodgers has always been willing to speak his mind about the way he sees things, but he doesn’t seem to view this game as anything more than any other regular-season game.

When Rodgers spoke to the media on Wednesday, he made it clear he has no hard feelings about anyone in the Packers organization.

“I don’t have any animosity toward the organization. Obviously I wish that things had been better in our last year there, but I have a great relationship with a lot of people still in that organization. This is not a revenge game for me.”

Aaron Rodgers on facing the Packers:

"I don't have any animosity toward the organization.
Obviously I wish that things had been better in our last year there, but I have a great relationship with a lot of people still in that organization. This is not a revenge game for me."

— Nick Farabaugh (@FarabaughFB) October 22, 2025

Packers head coach Matt LaFleur echoed those sentiments talking to the media earlier in the week, saying, “We’re playing the Pittsburgh Steelers, who happen to have Aaron Rodgers. It’s as simple as that.”

While Rodgers seems to be playing it cool while talking about playing against the team that drafted him, a win would undoubtedly mean a lot to him, as the veteran will have a chance to join his former teammate Brett Favre, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, and Drew Brees as the only quarterbacks in NFL history to defeat all 32 teams with a win over Green Bay on Sunday in Pittsburgh.

Although I think a win for Rodgers would mean much more than he is willing to admit. After the Steelers’ victory over Rodgers other former team the New York Jets earlier this season, he had some choice words for the organization.

“I was happy to beat everyone associated with the Jets,” Rodgers said after the Week 1 victory.

The Steelers currently hold a game-and-a-half lead in the AFC North. Aaron Rodgers getting a victory over his former team would certainly mean a lot to the Steelers in the standings, but it would also be a full-circle moment for their quarterback.

Source: https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.c...e-news-sunday-night-football-press-conference
 
Vikings at Chargers: Thursday Night Football open thread

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Week 8 starts tonight with Minnesota Vikings traveling to LA to take on the Chargers. The Vikings are going with Wentz at QB. Some are hoping it’s Addison by subtraction, but at least one JJ is playing. The Chargers’ Justin Herbert will be Keenan to throw the ball. At running back they’re using their Vidal resource.

What are your predictions for tonight’s game? Join your fellow Steelers fans in the comments for the first open thread of the week. 8:15 EST on Prime Video (and Twitch).

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Steelers Read & React Week 8 preview — What to expect against the Packers

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It’s a battle of historic franchises on Sunday Night Football Week 8 as the Pittsburgh Steelers host the Green Bay Packers.

Now on the Steelers, Aaron Rodgers will be going up against his former team and Green Bay successor in the Packers and quarterback Jordan Love.

After trading for edge rusher Micah Parsons before the season, Green Bay was catapulted into the Super Bowl contenders tier by the media. Currently sitting at 4-1-1 and atop the NFC playoff picture, it would seem that bet paid off for the Packers. However, those who follow Green Bay would tell you the team still has a way to go before it lives up to its potential.

What should the Steelers expect in primetime this week?

What to expect from the Packers’ offense

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Rushing YPG: 117.5 (15th)

Passing YPG: 225.8 (12th)

PPG: 26.3 (7th)

RB
: The Packers offense is a group that has the potential to be one of the best in the NFL – and it sometimes looks the part – but it hasn’t always lived up to expectations.

The central figure, of course, is quarterback Jordan Love. Drafted in the first round in 2021, he sat behind Aaron Rodgers for two years before becoming the starter in 2023. He’s proven himself as a low-to-fringe top-10 quarterback since, with 4,159 passing yards in his first year as a starter and 3,389 in his second.

He’s a strong-armed, sometimes over-aggressive passer who has still been efficient this year (69.3% completion). He’s in that tier of player who has a couple of reps each week that make the online film junkies rush to their screen recording app.

Jordan Love pointing out the blitzing LB to the OL then finding the hole in the void and layering this throw pic.twitter.com/jTepYcK8A9

— JP Acosta (@acosta32_jp) September 8, 2025

While he doesn’t run much, he’s plenty mobile in the pocket and can use his legs to get yards when needed.

Love is notably a big-play hunter as a passer. However, the foundation of the Packers’ offense is anything but. Green Bay’s offense uses a quick passing game and interior run game to set up Love’s deep, play-action shots.

Per NFL Pro, Love has the ninth-highest deep throw percentage in the league (11.9%) but only the 17th-highest average air yards per target (7.8 yards).

That’s to say, while Pittsburgh’s cover 3-heavy scheme and opportunistic style of play could result in some turnovers against Green Bay’s downfield shots, the Joe Flacco-style short passing game that burned Pittsburgh last week will absolutely be part of the Packers’ game plan in Week 8.

BUT Jordan Love leads the league in completion % of throws in 2.5 seconds or less.

He's completing a ridiculous 89.2% of those throws.

Jordan Love is also 3rd in EPA/dropback on quick throws, ahead of Rodgers. https://t.co/k1qzOsbr81

— Peter Bukowski (@Peter_Bukowski) October 21, 2025

Helping out Love is a deep supporting cast at pass catcher. The Packers have lacked a true WR1-type player for a bit, but they have a plethora of solid WR2/3 types. Even with Jayden Reed on injured reserve and Dontayvion Wicks expected to miss Week 8, Green Bay still has Romeo Doubs and first-round pick Matthew Golden, who’s slowly started to live up to his draft hype as he’s gotten more opportunities.

#Packers WR Matthew Golden has a 60.9% success rate and 78.3% catch rate, and he is averaging 10.8 yards per target. All first among rookie WRs with at least 15 targets.

— Zach Kruse (@zachkruse2) October 21, 2025

Even bigger for the Packers is that Christian Watson is expected back against Pittsburgh. Watson hasn’t played since an ACL injury in 2024. When he’s healthy, he’s an inconsistent but dynamic size-speed threat who will only further open up the Packers’ downfield offense. If he’ll look like his old self in his first game back is a legitimate question, though.

Christian Watson offers things to this offense that no one else can pic.twitter.com/P12g3mfYlf

— Eli Berkovits (@BookOfEli_NFL) October 7, 2025

Tight end Tucker Kraft is also a rising star. He’s drawn some George Kittle comparisons that aren’t that far off. He’s a multi-level threat who can win vertically and also as a yards-after-catch weapon.

NFL Tight Ends who have at least 4 TDs and average 14+ Yards per reception:
1. Tucker Kraft
2.

That's the list pic.twitter.com/hFWypG64na

— Packerfan Total Access- Clayton (@packers_access) October 20, 2025

The Packers got off to a slow start on offense last week against the Cardinals, and it was largely because it took some time for the run game to get going. Green Bay played just 56 offensive snaps to Arizona’s 76, largely due to some short drives in the first half.

Most of the discourse around the Green Bay offense has to do with its passing game, but the Packers run at the fourth-highest rate in the NFL (48.8%). Still, the Packers’ run blocking hasn’t been as strong as the pass blocking this year (they’ve had some injuries up front, to be fair), which has been a struggle for a team that still wants to establish the ground game as part of its offensive identity.

Converting on 4th down makes it easier to forgive this play call on 3rd and 2, but what was Matt LaFleur thinking? The offensive line has barely blocked anybody in the run game all season, and this is what he came up with.🤔 pic.twitter.com/VqGl0pjrIa

— Michael Rodney (@PackersNotes) October 20, 2025

Green Bay had to rely on running back Emmanuel Wilson early against Arizona as starter Josh Jacobs was dealing with illness and an injury, but the Packers had to switch to Jacobs as the game went on. The Green Bay O-line didn’t have the most dominant game, but Jacobs’ 4.2 yards per carry was a clear upgrade over Wilson’s 2.8.

Jacobs isn’t the most explosive runner in the league. He’s a bruiser who slowly wears defenses down over the course of the game. But he’s faster than you think with some phone-booth wiggle that takes his game to the next level. He’s also a decently productive receiver, with 16 catches already on the young season.

Jacobs is still on the injury report this week with a calf, but I would still expect a decent dose of him Sunday night, especially if Wilson continues to struggle as the alternative.

Beating the Green Bay offense will come down to winning up front to slow the run game first, but Love still absolutely has the talent to win through the air. This will need to be a bounceback game for the Pittsburgh secondary, even though there should be some more turnover opportunities than last week due to the Packers’ willingness to push the ball downfield.

Ultimately, the Green Bay offense is a talented group that hasn’t always lived up to the sum of its parts. Still, it’s a dangerous group that will be a challenge for Pittsburgh on Sunday night.

What to expect from the Packers’ defense

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Rushing YPG Allowed: 76.5 (2nd)

Passing YPG Allowed: 212.0 (15th)

PPG Allowed: 20.8 (10th)

RP:
The Packers defense is a fascinating one to try to get a read on. They are undoubtedly a talented unit with stars at each level.

All-Pro Micah Parsons and Pro Bowler Rashan Gary star on the defensive line, and another All-Pro, safety Xavier McKinney, patrols the Green Bay defensive backfield. In the middle of the defense, the Packers have two young, former top-45 picks at linebacker coming into their own with Edgerrin Cooper and Quay Walker.

Stylistically, they’ll present an interesting matchup for the Steelers. Pittsburgh’s offense has been at its best when it can run the ball to stay ahead of the chains. The Packers are among the best units in the league at stopping it, despite frequently playing with five defensive backs on the field.

The Packers typically have a four-man front, but they heavily rotate their defensive line to keep players fresh and present different looks. Ten different players on the Packers’ line have played at least one game where they registered double-digit snaps. Players like Devonte Wyatt (who returned to practice this week) and Lukas Van Ness (still a DNP at practices) have missed time due to injury and may have caused the Packers to reach deeper into their rotation, but it’s a testament to how good the run defense has been.

PlayerHeight/WeightTotal Snaps in 2025
DT Karl Brooks6’4 /296265
DT Devonte Wyatt6’3 /304151
DT Nazier Stackhouse6’3 / 32067
DT Warren Brinson6’4 / 31054
DE/OLB Micah Parson6’3 / 245287
DE/OLB Rashan Gary6’5 / 277264
DT Colby Wooden6’4 / 273214
DE/OLB Lukas Van Ness6’5 /272162
DE/OLB Kingsley Enagbare6’4 / 258117
DE/OLB Barryn Sorrell6’4 /26065
The Cowboys traded Parsons because he couldn't stop the run I guess pic.twitter.com/zVkZc8OCGn

— Ryan Parish (@RyanParishmedia) October 24, 2025

Behind the defensive line, the Packers primarily trot out just two linebackers: Cooper and Walker. A third linebacker, Isaiah McDuffie, joins them when the Packers play in base defense, but he typically only plays around a third of the defensive snaps. For most of the day, the Packers have three safeties on the field with McKinney, Evan Williams, and Javon Bullard. Bullard plays the most in the slot, Williams mostly plays deep, and McKinney plays the most in the box out of the three.

Despite fielding a defense that doesn’t appear bulked up to prevent the run, Green Bay currently ranks second in run defense. But it’s not like they haven’t played against any good rushing teams. So far, the Packers have held all but one of their opponents below their season average for rushing, and some of these opponents are among the best rushing teams in the league.

TeamNFL Rank in Rushing (YPG)Yards allowed by GB
Lions5th (133.7)46
Commanders2nd (148.9)51
Browns28th (92.6)96
Cowboys13th (122.1)117
Bengals32nd (68.9)55
Cardinals17th (110.4)94

Take a deeper dive into the numbers, and the Packers stack up well. Green Bay allows the fourth-fewest rushing yards per play (3.5) and average yards before contact (0.77), is tied for the fifth-fewest yards allowed after contact (2.77), is fifth in EPA allowed per rush (-0.13), and, along with the Broncos and Seahawks, has allowed the fewest runs of 10 yards or more (8).

One player to keep your eye on is Colby Wooden. Wooden was a fourth-round pick in 2024 and appears to be having a breakout season. Through six games, he’s already tied his career high in combined tackles (21, 11 solo), as well as setting a career high in stops (11). You have to imagine the progress he showed this summer was part of why the Packers felt OK about including longtime Packer Kenny Clark in the trade for Parsons.

Colby Wooden (96)

1. Is a jump scare
2. Sticking with the play to make the tackle for no gain
3. Sheds and makes the stuff
4. Helps finish off the tackle, hunts the ball
5. Wooden and Barryn Sorrell crucial in stuff the QB sneak pic.twitter.com/5YkS9Xoa0H

— Ryan Parish (@RyanParishmedia) October 24, 2025

The Packers’ front swarms to the ball. Despite many of the linemen being lighter in weight than you’d expect, they’ve done a good job of shedding blocks to finish the plays themselves or keep the bath clear for one of their linebackers or safeties to get a clear path to the runner.

This will be a true test of how effective the Steelers’ running game truly is. The Steelers should have plenty of size on the Packers, especially in multi-tight end sets and in their jumbo package with Spencer Anderson as a sixth offensive lineman. Filtering out an 11-yard scramble by Jacoby Brissett, the Packers have allowed seven rushing plays to gain 10 or more yards. Three of those plays featured offenses using multi-tight end sets, and five were designed to run outside. If the Steelers want to prove their offense is good enough to make them a contender, they’ll need to win matchups like this that pit strength vs. strength.

Against the pass, the Packers are more middling. The Green Bay defense is tied for ninth in sacks (18), but a majority of that is funneled through Parsons (5.5) and Gary (5.5), who make up 61.1% of the team’s sack production. Green Bay also blitzes at the fifth-lowest rate (19.9%) in the NFL, so it’s been Parsons and Gary or bust. As a unit, the Packers are pressuring the quarterback on 36.3% of dropbacks, 12th-most in the league, one slot behind the Steelers. However, they’re giving opposing teams an average of 2.85 seconds to throw, tied for the 9th-longest rate among defenses, and below Aaron Rodgers’ season average of 2.58 seconds.

Parsons (1) and Gary (52) account for the majority of Green Bay's sacks. Gary also forced the lone fumble the Packers have recovered on defense so far pic.twitter.com/W6XxYj4IQf

— Ryan Parish (@RyanParishmedia) October 24, 2025

Behind their pass rush, Green Bay plays predominantly zone. Only six teams have run fewer man concepts than the Packers.

Team coverage rates through Week 7

Via @FantasyPtsData pic.twitter.com/st3bFbFGhV

— Football Insights 📊 (@fball_insights) October 21, 2025

Like the Steelers, the Packers run a lot of Cover-3, but they run nearly twice as much Cover-2 zone. If the Packers do play man, it’s in Cover-1. As Ryland highlighted earlier, we should see many of the same tactics Cincinnati deployed. After all, Bengal’s head coach and playcaller Zac Taylor is from the Sean McVay coaching tree, and Green Bay’s Matt LaFleur is from both McVay and the Shanahan tree, having worked under Mike Shanahan and McVay.

In many ways, the Packers are seeking the same things Tomlin wants out of his team: A slow-paced, clock-chewing, battle of attrition. The methods they use to get there may vary, but the outcome is similar. Green Bay has played the seventh-fewest defensive snaps in the league (386), but also the fifth-fewest offensive plays (363). And it isn’t just because they have had a bye. Green Bay averages 60.5 offensive plays per game, which is the 18th-most in the NFL. Put another way, only 14 teams run fewer plays per game. Green Bay ranks just 17th in time of possession (30:07), nearly a 50/50 split with their opponents.

As Ryland detailed earlier, the Packers call the fourth-highest rate of run plays, but they’re not the most explosive. Green Bay is just 15th in rushing yards per game. They grind out drives.

Why am I suddenly talking about offense? Because it helps paint a bigger picture of why the Packers have looked dangerous at times, but also left some disappointed with some recent results, such as the 40-point tie with Dallas.

The Packers have been stingy against the pass. They are a swarming defense and sound tacklers for the most part, your classic bend-but-don’t-break style of defense. If Green Bay’s defense has one major flaw other than its highly concentrated sack production, it’s that they’ve struggled to create turnover. The Packers have forced just three turnovers (a fumble, two interceptions) on the year. Only the Jets (1) have fewer takeaways. Green Bay’s only turned it over three times themselves, but that shows you how slim their margin for error is on either side of the ball. They don’t run a lot of plays. Fewer plays mean fewer chances at points. Fewer chances at points, plus a turnover on offense, equals even fewer chances to score, which means even fewer points your defense can allow.

It’s a tough way to live, and something Steelers fans are all too familiar with in the post-Roethlisberger era.

The table below paints a picture of how this Packers defense operates. They run a lot of zone, and offenses have a really good shot at completing passes. None of these defenders are necessarily a weak link in coverage, but with the exception of McKinney, none are elite erasers either. They will let you complete your pass more often than not, but if you want to beat them, you’ll need to get the ball out fast, and you’ll need to have exceptional placement if you don’t want your receiver to make any yards after the catch.

PlayerPositionTargetsReceptionsCatch%YardsTDsINTQB RatingTarget %Avg. Target SeparationYAC/Reception
Keisean NixonCB382155.3%2312091.015.0%2.42.1
Edgerrin CooperLB353085.7%1971099.615.5%4.44.6
Quay WalkerLB322578.1%21620115.614.5%3.54.2
Javon BullardNCB/S232191.3%1290090.012.2%3.74.3
Nate HobbsCB211361.9%19720124.512.7%2.51.8
Carrington ValentineCB18950.0%11120106.515.5%2.12.6
Evan WillaimsS181583.9%1521197.27.3%3.44.3
Xavier McKinneyS11654.5%620133.14.4%2.42.8
Isaiah McDuffieLB5360.0%90064.611.4%6.35.3

In four out of the Packers’ six games, they’ve held opponents under 20 points. They held Arizona to 23. Green Bay’s worst game came against the Cowboys, in the aforementioned 40-40 tie in overtime.

Dallas and Dak Prescott settled for dinking-and-dunking most of the day, with Prescott finishing 31-40 for 319 yards, three touchdowns, and no turnovers. When Dak was able to create chunk plays through the air, was able to exploit some of those coverages with George Pickens. There were a few routes where Prescott threw up a contested vertical shot against man coverage, but he also was able to nail a hole shot to Pickens against Cover-2 zone.

Great process from Dak Prescott on 3rd down.

Signals this 989 concept to his receivers. Then hits the hole shot to Pickens. Completely unfazed by the inverted cover 2 look from the Packers.

Hits it all in rhythm. Good stuff. pic.twitter.com/ZD51Wh2G26

— Nate Tice (@Nate_Tice) September 29, 2025

If Rodgers is on his game, he can hopefully find a way to similarly exploit that. Take the mismatches between the tight ends, running backs, and the linebackers, and find the easy, soft spots in the zone. Then, when the Packers switch up and give you man coverage, hunt for DK Metcalf and check it down if he’s got safety help.

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Friday Night Happy Hour: Mini-bye bounce back edition

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Welcome back to BTSC’s Friday night open thread:

  1. With a few extra days to get over last week’s disappointing loss, the Steelers host the Packers on Sunday Night Football this week, hoping to bounce back into the win column. The schedule makers knew what they were doing, making this a prime-time game, even if Aaron Rodgers is downplaying the significance of playing against Green Bay for the first time in his career. I suppose it is some semblance of mercy that the schedule makers didn’t make the Steelers travel to Green Bay for this reunion. Meanwhile, for as bad as Mike Tomlin seemingly is in Thursday night games, his teams are 8-3 all-time in games following a TNF loss. Do you think the Steelers come away with a win this week, why or why not?
  2. We’ve started to hear whispers this week through the media that the Steelers would be open to Rodgers returning for the 2026 season — remember when we had the same whispers about Russ? Would you want Rodgers back for another season? I personally appreciate his performance this season, but would be skeptical about a return. For starters, I’d like to just get to the next era of Steelers football sooner rather than later, and that means finding a young quarterback. I also have the irrational notion that Rodgers’ career has eerily reflected Brett Favre’s career. Favre struggled with the Jets but then led his third team to the conference championship game his first year there. However, things fell off a cliff for him in year two with the Vikings and he retired after that season. So while I acknowledge the two quarterbacks aren’t actually linked mystically, my irrational fan brain has me wondering if Rodgers would have a similar result.
  3. The trade deadline is near, and thinking about Rodgers in the black and gold reminds me that he was a player I never thought would suit up for our team. Rather than trying to predict any realistic trades, let’s run this thought exercise: Who is a current star player on another team that you would love to see don the Steelers’ helmet and jersey? It doesn’t have to be a player they realistically could get right now; in fact, the more surprising the pick, the better.
  4. This weekend, the girlfriend and I are finally going to take the time to do some fall activities and get out to a pumpkin patch. It’ll be back to Ryland’s turn next weekend during actual Halloween, but I still want to hear about what some of your favorite fall/Halloween season activities are. Out here in Washington, I’m a big fan of going to pumpkin patches that have orchards as well, as not much beats some hot apple cider on a crisp fall day. Are there any local traditions you enjoy in the fall where you’re from? Do you enjoy watching scary movies? I’m going to try to watch Pan’s Labyrinth this weekend. It isn’t a horror movie, but it has some spooky elements, crazy costumes, and it’s been a while since I’ve seen it.
  5. SONG OF THE WEEK

    This was used in a reel I watched this morning, and it’s been stuck in my head all day. Sometimes it’s just as simple as that. Happy Friday, y’all.

    “One Beer” — MF DOOM

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Steelers vs. Packers: Week 8 staff picks

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The Steelers are looking to get to 5-2 and continue building a lead in the AFC North race as the season reaches its halfway point. They’ll host the Green Bay Packers on Sunday night, a team they haven’t lost to at home since 1970. Will they get win No. 5? Our staff weighs in with their Week 8 picks.

Ryan Parish: Last week, the Steelers lost a game that many suspected they would drop, despite seemingly matching up well on paper. This week, the doomers are out saying there is no shot the Steelers can beat Green Bay, who seems like a bad matchup on paper. Just as Tomlin has a bad record on the road for TNF, he has a good record after a TNF (14-6), and especially after a loss (8-3).

Neither Pittsburgh’s nor Green Bay’s defense is as good as they would have hoped, and both play a bend-don’t-break style. The difference is that Green Bay has struggled to create turnovers, with just three on the season. If Pittsburgh can protect the ball and sustain drives, they come out on top. Steelers 33 – Packers 30

Alex Hanczar: Pittsburgh’s annual trap game is behind us, and the black and gold look ahead to another primetime tilt this Sunday against Green Bay. The Packers come to town fresh off a narrow win on the road in Arizona. Micah Parsons, the most significant offseason transaction, had his best outing yet as the Penn State alumnus went for five tackles and three sacks. The four-time Pro-Bowler will look to carry that momentum into primetime this week as he faces a Steelers offense line that is beginning to find their way.

Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers offense scored 30+ points for the second time this season in a losing effort to Cincinnati in Week Seven. The flip side of that was Teryl Austin’s defense allowing 30+ points for the third time this season, a troubling statistic given Pittsburgh’s defense is the highest paid in the NFL.
The Steelers’ most formidable challenge will be defending the run against Green Bay’s bell cow, Josh Jacobs. This partially due to Bengals running back Chase Brown rushing for season-highs last week as well as Jacobs’ raw talent.

If Pittsburgh can keep the Packers’ offense at bay, pun intended, I believe they can get the job done.
Steelers, 28, Packers, 23.

Mike Nicastro: Death, taxes, and Mike Tomlin losing games on Thursday nights. I’m not overly as concerned about the loss as I am how they lost. If Joe Flacco ripped through the Steelers defense, what might Jordan Love do? In his career he has a passer rating of 121.1, 12 TDs and zero INTs on Sunday night football.

But the Packers have been a mess on the road. They lost to the Browns, tied the Cowboys, and squeaked one out against Jacoby Brissett’s Cardinals last Sunday. When it’s all said and done, Aaron Rodgers will make one more play than Love, and yet again, Tomlin will bounce back after a Thursday night loss. Steelers 26 Packers 24

Ryland Bickley: Should the Packers win? Probably. But Green Bay, despite being the top seed in the NFC, has had its fair share of ups and downs this season. So have the Steelers, but they’ll be coming off the mini bye week, playing at home, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Aaron Rodgers has a bit more motivation than he’s letting on.

It’s a toss up in my mind. But Green Bay has more holes than you might think and I’m expecting a bounce back of some sort from the Steeler defense. I’ll take Pittsburgh to win 30-27.

Joey Bray: Micah Parsons fully arrived last weekend in Green Bay’s road win against the Cardinals with three sacks. Parsons will undoubtedly give the offensive line their toughest test to date.

However, Arthur Smith should be jumping for joy looking at this matchup as Green Bay has given up 50 receptions to tight ends , the most in the league. Coming off a game in which three different tight ends scored for Pittsburgh, expect another barrage of tight end usage from the Steelers offense.

The defense will undoubtedly have to be better, and will face a quarterback in Jordan Love who wants to push the ball down the field much like Cincinnati did last week. Josh Jacobs has already totaled eight touchdowns this season and Pittsburgh will have their hands full with this explosive Packers offense.

Aaron Rodgers refuses to call this a revenge game, but you had better believe he will be playing with a little more of a chip on his shoulder. This game has all the making of what could be one of the most entertaining games the Steelers play all year. I have the Steelers winning in a thriller. Steelers 30 Packers 28

Jarrett Bailey: I’ve picked the Packers to win all week on podcasts and radio spots. However, the closer we get to Sunday, the more I believe the Steelers will win. Offensively, they’ve been one of the best in the NFL over the last month. They are fifth in EPA per play since Week 3, and they are putting up points in bunches. It’s the defense that worries me, though. I expect a relatively high-scoring game that goes back in forth with Aaron Rodgers doing just enough to lead Pittsburgh to a win. Steelers 27, Packers 25

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Report: Saints not expected to trade WR Chris Olave

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It feels like the wideout bandied about the most at the deadline over the past few seasons is Saints’ pass-catcher Chris Olave.

On Saturday, The Athletic’s Diana Russini tweeted the following:

“Barring an unforeseen change, the Saints are not expected to move Chris Olave prior to the trade deadline.”

Barring an unforeseen change, the Saints are not expected to move Chris Olave prior to the trade deadline.

Meanwhile, the Bills and Steelers are in the receiver market, while the Ravens, Colts, Lions and Rams are inquiring about corners, sources say. pic.twitter.com/24eMENqS1Z

— Dianna Russini (@DMRussini) October 25, 2025

Olave, 25, was entering the final year of his four-year, $19 million contract, before the team exercised his fifth-year option for 2026 at a little over $15 million. He makes a ton of sense for the WR-needy Steelers, because he can play inside and out, and when healthy, is one of the most reliable targets in the league.

However, he’s suffered multiple head injuries over the course of his four-year career.

So far this season, Olave has 44 receptions for 440 yards and four TDs.

Russini also reported that “the Bills and Steelers are in the receiver market,” which aligns with most of the national chatter lately.

Could another Saints receiver be of interest? Speedster Rashid Shaheed is set to be an unrestricted free agent at the end of the season, and the black and gold could use someone to stretch the field.

There’s no Chris Olave

There’s no Tee Higgins

Give me RASHID SHAHEED 🔥🔥pic.twitter.com/u4aIa46aeh

— MetcalfBurgh 🫡 (@PickensBurgh) October 9, 2025

He’s caught 30 passes for 356 yards and three scores this year, and wouldn’t cost as much as Olave, which could be preferable for Omar Khan and the Steelers brass.

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Steelers defense gets gashed again in loss to Packers

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In August of 2022, then-AEW Champion Jon Moxley cut a promo on CM Punk, with the now-infamous tagline being four words: “Weak mind, weak spirit.”

Who knew that those words would also perfectly encapsulate the Pittsburgh Steelers?

After taking a 16-7 lead into halftime against the Green Bay Packers, the Steelers allowed 28 second-half points, 21 of which came in the fourth quarter, in a 35-25 loss. Those 35 points are the most that Pittsburgh has allowed this season, and it marks the fourth time an opponent has scored 30+ in a game.

Things started great for Pittsburgh. They held the Packers to a three-and-out to start the game and put up three points on their first drive, as Chris Boswell made his first of four field goals – three of which were from 50+ yards. The Steelers put a bow on their first half work with Aaron Rodgers connecting with DK Metcalf to put the Steelers up 16-7. After that, though, Green Bay took over the game.

Tucker Kraft ran through the Steelers’ defense, catching seven passes for a Week 7-high 143 yards and two touchdowns. Jordan Love had his best game of the year, going 29-of-37 for 360 yards and three touchdowns while also completing 20 consecutive passes. Pittsburgh gave up multiple deep completions. Kraft had catches of 59 and 24 yards, Christian Watson had a 33-yard catch that led to a Savion Williams touchdown, and Romeo Doubs had a 24-yard reception. Green Bay took whatever they wanted, similarly to the Bengals. While they had explosives, most of Love’s passes were underneath throws in which his receivers picked up big yards after the catch because the Steelers continues to miss tackles. Green Bay ended the night with 454 yards of offense on 7.2 yards per play.

Offensively, the Steelers were completely shut down after the half. Before their final touchdown drive, when the game was all but over, Pittsburgh put up 38 net yards of offense in the second half. They converted just one third down on 10 tries all game, and their average third-down yards to gain was north of 10. If the Steelers got behind schedule on first down, the drive was cooked. They ran the ball well, averaging over five yards per carry, but got away from that for reasons unknown.

After two consecutive games without being sacked, Aaron Rodgers was under pressure all night and was sacked three times. He put together a solid performance, throwing for 216 yards and two touchdowns, but the offense was largely let down by its defense. That’s not to say the offense had a great night, but when 25 points are put on the board, the highest-paid defense in the NFL should be able to hold up its end of the bargain – something they’ve failed to do all season.

Once again, it’s evident that change is needed for the Steelers. Like James Franklin at Penn State, or even Mike Sullivan with the Pittsburgh Penguins, sometimes you just have to admit when it’s time to move on. While many fans and media members alike realize this, the Rooneys almost certainly don’t, ot they refuse to. Despite saying they want to win, they continue to bang their head against the same wall, expecting different results. You can go through several different offensive coordinators, make trades, and invest a ton of money into signings all you want. When the defense remains the biggest problem with the same issues year after year, that falls at the feet of the head coach.

A change won’t be made mid-season in terms of Tomlin, nor am I saying it should. But if 2025 ends the same way as every season for the last eight years, then Pittsburgh should find a new head coach. If Tomlin wants to show he’s serious about making changes and making strides toward ending the playoff win drought, Teryl Austin will not be the Steelers’ defensive coordinator any longer.

With the Indianapolis Colts next on the docket, the Steelers are in real danger of going from 4-1 to 4-4 and giving fans painful flashbacks of 2024, 2020, and 2018 – seasons in which they started very hot, but ended up being all for not due to a collapse at the end of the season, only this time the collapse would come early.

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Report: Steelers DL suffered torn ACL

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Steelers defensive lineman Daniel Ekuale tore his ACL in the Steelers’ Sunday Night Football loss to the Green Bay Packers, NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo reported Monday.

#Steelers DL Daniel Ekuale tore his ACL last night in the loss to the #Packers, sources tell me and @RapSheet. A tough blow for the team and the seventh-year veteran. pic.twitter.com/oPAqz19b5T

— Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) October 27, 2025

Ekuale’s left the game early with a knee injury. Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin called it “significant” in the postgame press conference.

The 31-year-old, in his seventh NFL season, signed with the Steelers over the offseason on a one-year, $2.8 million deal. He has appeared in every game so far this season, recording six total tackles.

Before coming to Pittsburgh, Ekuale had 21 career starts.

The Steelers haven’t announced any roster moves related to the Ekuale injury yet. If the torn ACL is confirmed, he’ll likely end the season on injured reserve.

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Steelers S DeShon Elliott expected to miss rest of season

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The Steelers have lost two straight games, the latest of which was a 35-25 loss to the Green Bay Packers. In addition to the Week 8 loss, they have lost one of their top defenders for the season.

Per Jeremy Fowler of ESPN, the Steelers expect safety DeShon Elliott to be out for the remainder of 2025 with a knee injury.

“The Steelers are bracing for safety DeShon Elliott to miss the rest of the season, per sources,” Fowler reports. “His ACL is intact and he’s working through the nature of the leg injury, so Pittsburgh will hold out hope, but a return is not considered likely at this point.”

The Steelers are bracing for safety DeShon Elliott to miss the rest of the season, per sources. His ACL is intact and he’s working through the nature of the leg injury, so Pittsburgh will hold out hope, but a return is not considered likely at this point. pic.twitter.com/bceZ6iCacD

— Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerESPN) October 28, 2025

Elliott suffered the injury tackling Tucker Kraft after a long catch-and-run. Considering the poor play we’ve seen out of Chuck Clark and Juan Thornhill, Pittsburgh may need to make a move at safety.

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Report: Steelers sign safety after DeShon Elliott injury

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The Steelers have added a new face at safety following DeShon Elliott’s injury against the Green Bay Packers.

According to a report from NFL Network’s Tom Pelissero, the Steelers are signing safety Darrick Forrest to the practice squad.

Former Commanders safety Darrick Forest is signing with the Steelers practice squad, per source.

Forrest has played in 40 career games (17 starts). Some depth amidst injuries on the back end. pic.twitter.com/fH3ExZumDA

— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) October 28, 2025

Forrest was a fifth-round draft pick in the 2021 NFL Draft by the Washington Commanders, where he played the last four seasons. In 2025, he’s had stints with the Bills and Colts but didn’t appear in a game.

Forrest has played in 40 career games with 17 starts. In 2022, when he logged 11 of those starts, he recorded 88 combined tackles, four interceptions, and nine passes defensed.

The Steelers have not officially announced the move yet. The team is set to work out free agent safeties Eddie Jackson and Vonn Bell today.

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Steelers Read & React: Will the trade deadline bring answers?

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It’s one of those moments where last week’s Read & React — the Steelers’ defensive issues against the Bengals — could just be copy and pasted into this week’s edition.

But to avoid repeating ourselves too much, this time around we’ll be looking ahead at the NFL trade deadline on Nov. 4 along with our usual gripes. Could some savvy wheeling and dealing offer some answers to the struggling Steelers? And it appears the team has gone to the well already with Monday’s addition of former Patriots safety Kyle Dugger.

Should the Steelers pursue more trades after acquiring safety Kyle Dugger? If so, at what position?​

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RP: If the Steelers are hoping to change their fortunes via trade, then there are two position groups that stand out like a sore thumb: receiver and the secondary at large.

The Steelers offense isn’t a juggernaut by any means, and certainly could benefit from adding one or more playmakers, but to me the secondary is the most glaring need. We’ll address how poorly the Steelers secondary has played in further detail in the next question, but I don’t think I’m telling any tales when I say the Steelers have been abysmal in pass coverage.

That’s a pretty hard pill to swallow given how the Steelers’ public messaging all summer was about how “historically good” this defense could be. The premise that Pittsburgh’s front office sold and seemed to buy into themselves was that the pass rush was still elite enough that the defense could still be the engine of this team with just a few tweaks.

To their credit, the Steelers took a big swing trading away Minkah Fitzpatrick and bringing in Jalen Ramsey. But the rest of their moves have been disappointing.

The Steelers went cheap at cornerback signing Brandin Echols and 34-year-old Darius Slay. Ryland and I both expressed heavy skepticism that Slay had anything left in the tank (more on him later) and he’s done little to prove those doubts wrong. Meanwhile, Echols hasn’t played poorly, but 124 of his 221 snaps (56.1%) on defense came in Week 3 and 4, with the Steelers refusing to mix things up outside.

Unfortunately, I’m not sure there are many options out there.

The names I’ve seen floated around are Seattle’s Riq Woolen, Tennessee’s L’Jarius Sneed, New Orlean’s Alontae Taylor, and the Jet’s Michael Carter II.

Woolen is the most intriguing of the bunch, with his combination of age (26), size (6’4, 33 ⅝” arms), and speed (4.26 40-yard dash). However, he’s up for a contract extension, would not improve the tackling woes of the secondary (seven missed tackles this year and 42 in four seasons), and is giving up the highest passer rating when targeted (98.9) of his career.

Sneed is in the same boat as Woolen, currently surrendering a passer rating of 137.7, and he’s due $15 million-plus over the next two seasons. Carter (99.2) and Taylor (111.8) aren’t faring much better, and both primarily play in the slot, which is where Ramsey has been his best this year. Taylor also has an expiring contract, and Carter has been out since Week 4 with concussion symptoms. In Carter’s absence, the Jets traded for one of my 2024 draft gems, Jarvis Brownlee Jr., and have been impressed by his performance, making Carter and his $10 million AAV expendable.

At safety, the Steelers haven’t been much better. DeShon Elliott has been the lone bright spot, and he’s now either likely done for the year or week-to-week with a knee injury, depending on whether you believe Jeremy Fowler’s reporting or Mike Tomlin’s press conferences are more accurate.

The Steelers have already addressed the safety group with a trade Tuesday evening for Kyle Dugger. Funnily enough, I had already written my answer to this question before the trade. Like me, it appears the Steelers stared down a rotation of Juan Thornhill, Chuck Clark, and Jabrill Peppers and said “Yikes.” Each of those players has been varying levels of bad in coverage and tackling, so it’s hard to fault the Steelers for at least trying to inject more life into the mix.

That said, while Dugger was the name I thought was most likely for Pittsburgh, he is more of a box safety and not someone I think will make a major positive impact on the Steelers coverage woes. He’s allowed a catch on all six of his targets this year, giving up 87 yards and a 118.8 passer rating. There’s a reason he ceded playing time to Day 3 rookie – and another one of my draft gems – Craig Woodson.

But, in Dugger’s favor, he is a better tackler than Clark and Thornhill, so he might be able to prevent more YAC than them. Dugger should also be a positive in the running game. PFF has credited him with four stops this year, giving him a run defense grade of 73.6 which is a good figure on their grading scale.

The Steelers could arguably use another safety opposite of Dugger, but most of the other safety names I’m seeing “rumored” are seemingly more rooted in wishcasting from fans looking at teams with bad records than they are based on any credible reporting about a player’s availability.

Among those names are Justin Reid, Budda Baker, Armani Hooker, Xavier Woods, and Quandre Diggs. Reid would be the most appealing to me as a true free safety, but he just signed a three-year deal with the Saints this offseason, so I would be shocked to see him moved.

Overall, I don’t see many good options for the Steelers. I wrote earlier this year that the Steelers roster building plan has felt aimless in recent years. Sure they’ve tried to attack the offensive line, and they made splash moves in trading for D.K. Metcalf, Ramsey, and Jonnu Smith, but those moves have felt out of sync with the rest of the roster’s development.

Last year the Steelers essentially lit picks on fire to trade for Preston Smith and Mike Williams, and then barely utilized them before saying their goodbyes this winter. Sure, the Steelers only gave up Day 3 picks to get them, but for a team that is famously stingy about paying big contracts to acquire outside talent, those picks represent lost chances at finding potential impact rotational players or even starters at a cheap cost. That’s a big part of maintaining roster health in the modern NFL.

Now they’ve traded a sixth-round pick for Dugger who has already had the final two years of his deal voided following the move, per Ian Rapoport.
It feels like another desperate short-term solution at the cost of rejuvenating an aging roster through the draft.

For a team lacking offensive playmakers and young secondary talent, which of these sounds like a better plan for transitioning into the next era?

  • Attempting to develop younger talent who have cheaper contracts due to their draft slot?
  • Or slapping on a few expensive aging contracts via trade and supplementing that by paying cheaply for older, slower players with no long-term future in Pittsburgh in free agency? Both of which involve players that had their previous teams ready to move on from them?

I prefer the former, because I don’t think this team is good enough to make a serious playoff run. It’s no guarantee that draft picks will hit – especially with how questionably Tomlin and his staff have been at developing talent in recent years – but at least there is some hope at winning the numbers game that is the draft.

There is little hope in pinching pennies for players like Slay, Thornhill, and Clark, which has produced predictable results. And any positive boost from players like Ramsey and Dugger feels fleeting, and a little desperate.

RB: As Ryan covered defensive back in depth (and I largely agree), I’ll focus on the wide receiver side of things.

But I’ll mention the Dugger trade a bit first (This is Steelers Read & React after all). Like Ryan, I feel rather lukewarm about it, but there are some positives. At 29 years old, Dugger isn’t a player just entering his prime, but it’s nice to see a Steelers outside addition on the right side of 30 for once, even if it’s just by a year.

My main worry was that the Steelers would overpay for short-term help on what already seems like a sinking ship on defense, and in this case, it doesn’t appear to be a huge deal.

And as Ryan alluded to, the final two years of Dugger’s deal have not only been wiped out, but the Patriots are also paying “most” of his remaining base salary this season as well, per a report from NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport.

More details: The #Patriots are paying most of $5.4M that’s left of Kyle Dugger’s original base of $9.75M (plus $1M in per-game roster bonuses) to complete the deal, source says.

The final two contract years have been wiped out, source says. He’ll be a free agent after 2025. https://t.co/LnnC8E28WM

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) October 29, 2025

And per NFL Network’s Tom Pelissero, the trade is just a Day 3 pick swap with Pittsburgh getting Dugger and a seventh while the Patriots get a sixth.

We’ll still have to see the final cap numbers, but that’s about as cheap as it gets. Ultimately, while I’m not a big fan of repeatedly band-aiding the defense, that’s the price I’d be willing to pay for that sort of move.

Dugger’s coverage tape isn’t all that inspiring, but he does bring the sort of aggressiveness and want-to the Steelers need more of in their secondary, especially without DeShon Elliott.

Kyle Dugger with the hardest of hard reads pic.twitter.com/5592zjfP5I

— Brett Kollmann (@BrettKollmann) May 24, 2023
Kyle Dugger (#23) vs the Vikings pic.twitter.com/gZZvMni8Az

— Taylor Kyles (@tkyles39) August 17, 2025

And here’s some effort by the goal line:

KYLE DUGGER IS THE MAN.

WHAT A PLAY! pic.twitter.com/f2sxgmaBTS

— Pats Buzz (@PatsBuzz) September 8, 2024

After playing with an ankle injury in 2024 and getting surgery this offseason, Dugger just isn’t that fluid of a mover in open space anymore. He doesn’t fix the speed problem on the back end of Pittsburgh’s defense much, if at all.

Still, while it’s a trade for a recognizable name, the current version of the player (and price) make this a fairly low stakes, inoffensive move – honestly, not all that different from the earlier signing of Jabrill Peppers.

As for other positions the Steelers could address at the deadline, offensive line depth is a need but good players who fit that description are almost never available in November. You could maybe point to the defensive line as well after the Daniel Ekuale injury, but the Steelers invested in Derrick Harmon and Yahya Black in the draft and need to keep giving them playing time.

That leaves wide receiver. As the trade deadline approaches, I think there’s a bit more of a chance for a splash move here than some expect. Insiders such as Ian Rapoport continue to say that Pittsburgh is in the market for a receiver. And head coach Mike Tomlin continues to criticize his offense just as much as the defense.

Mike Tomlin starts out by saying it's especially disappointing they didn't put 60 minutes of football together and settled for field goals instead of touchdowns. Specifically mentioned getting in third-and-longs being an issue.

— Brooke Pryor (@bepryor) October 28, 2025

It feels good to doubt the NFL insiders and their reports that often feel a lot more like deliberate team or agent leaks, but under Omar Khan’s leadership, there has often been plenty of fire to back up the smoke surrounding the Pittsburgh front office: D.K. Metcalf, Jonnu Smith, Jalen Ramsey – even the Russell Wilson and Justin Fields news in 2024.

That’s not to say Pittsburgh definitely will add a receiver, but I certainly believe they are poking around. To me, the Marquez Valdes-Scantling addition (which will now apparently happen next week) was in a similar vein to the Dugger signing: Recognizable name. Nothing major. Probably very cheap. And it doesn’t rule out something bigger.

The question then becomes: Should the Steelers pursue a wide receiver trade?

My answer remains what it’s been most of this season: For the right deal and player, sure.

Again, I don’t think this Steelers roster has shown it is remotely close to Super Bowl contending at this point in the season – and the offense is not exactly the biggest problem. So burning through cap space that can be rolled over or draft picks that can help future seasons to help this current team just doesn’t make sense.

But several of the receivers rumored to be available are still solidly under 30 and looking for new contracts. If the Steelers can get a reasonable deal in terms of trade compensation, I don’t have a big issue with trying to build a strong receiver duo for the future. With the offensive line project starting to come together, it’s the next logical step of the long-term offensive plan.

Of those potential receivers, I’d rule out A.J. Brown and Jaylen Waddle as I think there’s little-to-no chance either gets dealt (especially Brown) and the Steelers offense doesn’t use its wide receivers enough to justify the cost of either. (I think Chris Olave and Brain Thomas Jr. fall under the same category, more or less).

There’s also the flip side. Especially with the Valdes-Scantling news, the Steelers don’t need a Tyler Lockett, Allen Lazard, Tyler Boyd, etc. if available. That doesn’t help them much in the short or long term.

But the Raiders’ Jakobi Meyers (soon-to-be 29 years old) and the Saints’ Rashid Shaheed (recently 27) both make some sense to me if they are indeed available.

Meyers is on the last year of a three-year, $33 million contract in Las Vegas, and he wants out. He’s been productive over his career, with four straight 800-plus yard seasons starting in 2021.

At 6′ 2, 193 pounds, he has stereotypical receiver size and has proven over his career he can get open.

Jakobi Meyers beating Trent McDuffie on the slot fade with a nice A-step release to avoid contact.

Watch him track this ball over his shoulder with late hands to make a diving grab. He catches everything… pic.twitter.com/o2rRNAd81V

— Derrick (@Steelers_DB) October 23, 2024
Jakobi Meyers using the stair step technique to beat Pat Surtain on the crossing route over the middle. pic.twitter.com/f2ZSx2sBUI

— Derrick (@Steelers_DB) October 26, 2024

What I appreciate about Meyers is that his game doesn’t have any gimmicks. He’s just a solid all-around WR2 type with developed route-running, solid speed, a clear football IQ, and good hands. He has inside-outside versatility, too.

With a very public trade request and on a team that might’ve already given up on 2025, a Meyers trade feels more than possible.

Shaheed isn’t as proven as Meyers, but he had a career-high 719 receiving yards in 2024 and is currently on a cheap one-year, $5.2 million contract. As a 6’0, 280-pound speedster, he falls into the same category as a number of current Steeler receivers, but I’d argue Shaheed would instantly be the second-best pass catcher on the Pittsburgh offense.

He’s most known as a deep threat, entering 2024 with a career average of over 16.5 yards per catch. However, he’s developed into one of the league’s most underrated receivers and is much more of a multi-level threat in 2025. He’s a great athlete with solid hands and sharp route-running. His 431 receiving yards this year would be a lot more if he wasn’t on a tough-to-watch Saints offense.

Rashid Shaheed just needs a QB man. pic.twitter.com/CJ83J7p48D

— Bills Chat Podcast (@BillsChatPod) October 27, 2025

Sometimes, you have to look beyond the player archetype and just recognize Shaheed is simply a good football player.

Rashid Shaheed is by no means a true WR1, but man he could solve a lot of the #Bills issues at WR right now ⬇️#BillsMafia pic.twitter.com/m5R79pj36W

— Ben | BillsAccess (@bills_access) October 27, 2025
Rashid Shaheed with a clean win against a pressed Carlton Davis pic.twitter.com/UnpAn6MUYo

— Nate Tice (@Nate_Tice) October 13, 2025

Would he be available? The Saints, like the Raiders, have good reason to punt on their season, and there’s been some smoke around New Orleans being sellers at the deadline.

To wrap up another long-winded Read & React segment, I’m not opposed to Pittsburgh making more trades. But it would need to be incredibly cheap if it’s a short-term fix – and if anything else, it has to prioritize the team’s long-term vision.

Still though, I would hesitate to part with any significant draft capital. The Steelers need all the ammo they can get to keep their quarterback options open this offseason, and the team needs more high-impact players on rookie contracts in the first place.

If Shaheed or Meyers can be had for something around a fourth-round pick and their contract demands are reasonable, go for it. Anything else, and the Steelers need to stay put and wait until 2026 to keep making splash moves.

The secondary, sold as a team strength, has been one of the biggest weak spots for the Steelers. What changes do you think should be made?

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RP: I rambled quite a bit about the disappointing secondary above so I’ll try to keep this one a bit shorter.

For starters, Darius Slay should stop seeing the football field. On the season, he’s allowed 20 of his 28 targets to be caught, surrendering 218 yards for 106.0 passer rating. On first downs, QBs that target him have a passer rating of 114.9 and third downs that figure is 114.2.

But even more maddening is his attempts at “tackling.” PFF has credited Slay with seven missed tackles this season, and I’d argue that number doesn’t do justice to how often he appears to be loafing and making business decisions when an opponent gets loose in the secondary.

Warning: Effort Police 🚨

There is absolutely no way that anyone can convince me that #23 is actually trying to make this tackle. pic.twitter.com/1E7f51KaaR

— Derrick (@Steelers_DB) October 27, 2025

While we’re calling the effort police, Chuck Clark and Juan Thornhill both have five missed tackles (and again I’d argue it’s more) per PFF. Joey Porter Jr. is credited with three, another figure I’d contest with the amount of arm tackles we’ve seen opponents break out of on his watch.

PFF grades aren’t gospel and have their flaws, but they have the Steelers graded as the seventh worst team in pass coverage with only the Dolphins, 49ers, Bills, Commanders, Raiders and Cowboys rated lower.

You’ve watched the same games I have, do you have any strong contentions against PFF’s claim? Me neither.

The Steelers look old and slow on the back end. Players appear to be constantly trying to sort out assignments right up until the snap, which is ridiculous considering the Steelers really only run two concepts 62% of the time, and rarely disguise what they’re trying to do.

Team coverage rates through Week 8

Via @FantasyPtsData pic.twitter.com/P5rEDzEwYX

— Football Insights 📊 (@fball_insights) October 28, 2025

Rotating coverages more post snap might help, but with the Steelers still struggling with communicating assignments, that might only confuse things further. Scrounging practice squads and free agency for safeties might present upgrades over Thornhill and Clark, but that’s asking a lot for someone to come off the street at this point in the season.

I don’t mean to sound so defeatist, but I’m really not sure there is much that will improve the current condition of the secondary. My best suggestions are giving Echols and Cory Trice Jr. more run outside in place of Slay. Echols has allowed a passer rating of 58.8 and just 13 receptions against 21 targets. Hell, even James Pierre has allowed just one catch against six targets for the best passer rating allowed on the team (39.6), granted that’s an incredibly small sample size and we’ve seen him picked on in years past.

At safety, Jabrill Peppers has a limited sample size as well – just one catch allowed on four targets for a passer rating of 52.1 – that I don’t think would sustain, but has to be better than what we’ve seen from Clark and Thornhill. The only issue is that he and Duggers are cut from a similar cloth, so having two box safeties on the field could be a problem. Maybe the Steelers could try rotating Ramsey to safety occasionally, but they’ve been hesitant to do so, giving him just 44 snaps there thus far.

Still, the Steelers should be trying anything and everything they can to right the ship. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Tomlin and the Steelers have been maddeningly adverse to change for years. But honestly, with how bad the Steelers secondary has been the past two weeks, what more do they have to lose?

RB: Like Ryan, I’ll also keep my thoughts short on this one out of respect to your time. Plus, I already wrote an abbreviated version of my answer in Monday’s “Let’s talk Steelers,” which asked what Pittsburgh should do at safety (Spoiler alert, the team answered with “Kyle Dugger”).

As Ryan wrote, keeping Darius Slay and Chuck Clark off the field more are musts. If the big-money veterans aren’t performing, it’s better to see what the shiny new toys (Dugger, Jabrill Peppers) and younger names (Brandin Echols, Cory Trice Jr., James Pierre) can do instead.

The results might not be great, but the bar is at the bottom of the Allegheny. Just try something new, please.

Schematically, what the Steelers are doing hasn’t been working, either. The team needs to be blitzing less and running more match concepts so we stop seeing so many defensive backs getting dusted or simply covering grass. But as Ryan pointed out, the easy-to-see communication issues make any more complicated schematic changes a big ask.

There’s really no easy fix for the secondary in-season. In 2026, the team will need to revamp the personnel and should part ways with coordinator Teryl Austin. But for now, while there might be some minor improvements down the road, I don’t think much can – or will – change.

Join in on Steelers R&R by sharing your takes on this week’s topics. How can the Steelers fix their defense? Should they still be buyers at the trade deadline? Feel free to pitch future questions in the comment section or on Twitter/X: tag @_Ryland_B or @RyanParishMedia, or email us at [email protected].

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