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Refs say foul should have been called on Tim Hardaway Jr.’s last-second shot

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Pistons were down one with the potential for Hardaway to shoot three free throws

The Detroit Pistons were down 1 in the final seconds, and the ball rolled to a waiting Tim Hardaway Jr. for a final shot. A shot, the referees said after the game, that should have resulted in three free throws. Instead, no whistle was called and the Pistons lost the game to the New York Knicks 94-93.

Instead of the series being tied 2-2, the Pistons now face a 3-1 deficit and an elimination game in New York.

When Hardaway went into his shooting motion, Josh Hart leaped toward Hardaway to contest. Hart made contact to Hardaway’s shoulder, and THJ flung the ball toward the rim as the shot was not even close.

After the game, the refs said that they missed the call.

“During live play, it was judged that Josh Hart made a legal defensive play. After the postgame review, we observed that Hart makes body contact that is more than marginal to Hardaway Jr. and a could should have been called,” said crew chief David Guthrie after the game.

It is a tough pill for the Pistons to swallow, and if the Pistons don’t surrender a fourth-quarter double-digit lead, the game doesn’t come down to a missed called. But they did and it did.

After the game, JB Bickerstaff was direct on what he saw.

“There was contact on Tim Hardaway’s jump shot. I don’t know any way around it. There was contact on his jump shot. He left his feet,” Bickerstaff said after the game.

Tim Hardaway agreed when asked what happened on the final possession.

“You all saw it. It was blatant,” he said.

Source: https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2025...-new-york-knicks-final-play-foul-tim-hardaway
 
Pistons vs. Knicks final score: Pistons lose a heartbreaker as Brunson and KAT lead comeback

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Detroit goes to New York facing elimination

The Detroit Pistons did everything they could to tie the series at 2-2 except for execute when it mattered most. The star duo of Jalen Brunson and Karl-Anthony Towns had no such issue. In the fourth quarter the pair outscored the entire Pistons team 23-22, en route to Detroit falling 94-93 and facing an elimination game on the road.

Towns hit the game-winning shot, a 27-foot bomb from deep to give the Knicks the one-point lead. The Pistons had the ball with 11 seconds remaining, but Cade Cunningham missed a 14-foot baseline jumper and the rebound careened into the waiting arms of Tim Hardaway Jr. in the corner. He hoisted in the final moment and appeared to receive contact on the shot from a leaping Josh Hart, but the refs didn’t call a foul and the Pistons lost the game.

The Pistons struggled early in the game as the Knicks were doing everything the Pistons wanted to do but better (better being a relative term in a hard-fought slugfest that didn’t feature much offense). The Knicks were getting to loose balls, they were winning every 50-50 chance, and they were executing at a high level. They were playing with the focus and desperation early the Pistons needed.

Detroit was able to ramp up the defense in the second quarter and used its first run of the game to cut a 14-point deficit to seven at the half. The run was powered by Tobias Harris, who was again limited by foul trouble, but made a couple key stretches count.

The Pistons then dominated the third quarter, continuing its stifling defense and starting to execute its offense when it had a chance to move in transition. Jalen Brunson attempted a last second shot at the buzzer but fell to the ground and didn’t get a call, appearing to hurt his foot.

All the momentum had swung Detroit’s way. Cade Cunningham found his groove, and Malik Beasley started hitting shots. Towns had a cold stretch on both ends as he was more focused on avoiding his fifth foul than in executing. But when Brusnon came back in, looking no worse for wear, the game completely flipped.

Brunson scored 15 points on 7-of-11 shooting. He was able to surgically slice through Detroit’s defense for a number of layups at the rim, and when he wasn’t hitting the layups, he was hitting tough fallaways off the glass.

Towns hit two big threes, including the one that put the Knicks ahead for good. The Knicks can sit comfortably knowing their two biggest players earned their combined $75 million salary tonight. Their big players hit the biggest shots when it counted.

The Pistons will look to regroup and keep this series going as long as possible. They deserve credit for the fight they are giving to New York, but everyone must be honest with themselves about the number of self-inflicted wounds Detroit is amassing in each of their losses.

You can’t win many games with 17 turnovers. Comebacks are great, but it is even better if you do not find yourself trailing by as many as 16 points in the second quarter. The Pistons are struggling to find time for its best defender, Ausar Thompson, because his offense is so unreliable. He is also making plenty of young-player mistakes.

Jalen Duren is a markedly improved defender than his first two years, but he’s also still a bad defender, and he struggles to contest effectively or seal off the paint. This team was sorely missing Isaiah Stewart tonight. Cunningham simply can’t have seven turnovers in a game in which he expects to lead his team to victory.

These close losses could be called learning experiences, but I know that the Pistons want something more than to simply learn how to win. They want to win this series. They put themselves in a position to take it. But they let it slip away at the end. Again.

We can talk about fouls and no-calls all we want, but the Pistons had a double-digit fourth-quarter lead and let the game slip away.

These playoffs are showing us exactly what kind of team and future this Pistons have, much of it great. But there are flaws, and the Pistons are running out of time to eliminate their errors and keep this magical season going.

Source: https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2025...istons-lose-a-heartbreaker-as-brunson-and-kat
 
The Pindown: Last Legs

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Discussing the final call, Ausar Thompson & Game 5

The final call in Game four spoiled an otherwise fantastic game. In fact, all four of these games have been fantastic — win or loss. These Pistons have stepped up to the plate and, while the results aren’t fully there, they’re learning important lessons. Wes and Blake jump in for a special short episode to break down the two games in Detroit and look forward to game five. What has gotten lost because of that final call? How great has Cade been? What should the Pistons do about KAT, or Ausar, or Duren.

We’ve got you covered for all this and more in this week’s episode.

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Pistons vs. Knicks preview: Detroit looks to keep season alive

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Detroit faces elimination in New York

The Detroit Pistons find themselves down 3-1 to the New York Knicks and facing potential elimination at Madison Square Garden on Tuesday. It’s been a series of tough beats for the Pistons, who have been on the wrong side of one-possession games twice in this series. Once, they couldn’t effectively get a shot in-bounds for a miracle attempt. In the other, they got two shots to go ahead, but the second had no chance because of a no-call the NBA later admitted was a mistake. For the series, the Knicks are only +8. In other words, this is not the shellacking that the Thunder put on the Grizzlies or the Cavaliers put on the Heat.

Game Vitals​


When: 7:30 p.m. ET
Where: Madison Square Garden, New York, New York
Watch: TNT, TruTV, MAX
Odds: Pistons +5.5

Analysis​


If nothing else, the Detroit Pistons are collecting a lot of valuable information and learning a lot of lessons in the first playoff series for this young team. Cade Cunningham has largely been brilliant, but not without flaws. The good news is they seem like the kind of flaws that are correctable. He needs to tighten his handle and decision-making in close spaces. He needs to become a more reliable three-point shooter. He needs to finish better at the rim and learn the art of drawing contact in a way where the refs don’t swallow their whistles.

However, even without those tools yet secured into his bag, Cunningham has often been the best player on the court in this series. He is playing a level of defense you want to see in a player you’re tying your franchise’s fortunes to. I’m not sure the last time you could say a one-way player led a team to a championship, and you never know with these young, budding stars how seriously they will take their defensive responsibilities. Like everything else, though, Cade takes it seriously. He was a monster on defense in Game 4. He also has grown by leaps and bounds in his ability to navigate defenses and get to the rim. The field goal percentage will rise considerably once he better understands how to finish and how to draw contact. He’s also doing what he’s always done — dictating the pace of the game, getting his teammates involved, and using his size and his craft to make those around him better. It hasn’t translated to wins in this series, but it is leaving me more confident than ever that those wins will becoming, likely as soon as next season.

Heck, that win could even come tonight. The Pistons are not a team that is going to lie down just because the odds are not in their favor. They are going to scrap and fight, and work as hard as they have all season. It’s how they got here, and it’s the identity coach JB Bickerstaff has cultivated and demands.

It certainly hasn’t been a perfect series, especially with Isaiah Stewart (listed as questionable for tonight) out injured. Karl-Anthony Towns has proven to be a terrible matchup for Jalen Duren, who struggles to guard Towns in space, and Tobias Harris, who struggles to keep him away from the rim. All credit to Towns for stepping up big-time in this series. There have also been issues with Ausar Thompson, who Detroit desperately wants on the floor. In the playoffs though, it has been hard for Detroit to have a functional offense with Thompsons’ limitations on the floor. Ausar isn’t attempting crazy shots, but he is trying to be that secondary playmaker he was in the regular season, and it’s been a disaster for the second-year player. Thompson has been rifling ill-advised passes, getting his pocket picked, and doesn’t have a sense of what to do with the ball. It’s a shame because his defense has been stellar when he hasn’t been limited by foul trouble.

It’s also been nice to see Tobias Harris acquit himself well in the playoffs after being scapegoated for years on disappointing Sixers teams. He has been steady, efficient, and an emotional leader on the floor. Ron Holland is also riding ALL his emotions, sometimes for ill and often times for good. It’s a great taste test for him as Detroit understands how to further develop the young wing. Dennis Schröder has been a bucket all series, and it is looking like the team might want to secure his services beyond this year.

The Pistons will hope to extend this series simply by playing the kind of defense they played for 40 minutes of Game 3 and Game 4 without allowing the huge runs that have put them behind and in the losers’ column for those games. That will require not just the energy but the focus to execute the defensive game plan in an attempt to limit both Towns and Jalen Brunson. It will also require even sharper focus on the offensive end so that they are limiting New York’s transition opportunities. The win is there for the taking. Let’s hope Detroit seizes it and we get at least one more game at Little Caesars Arena.

Projected Lineups​

Detroit Pistons (1-3)​


Cade Cunningham, Tim Hardaway Jr., Ausar Thompson, Tobias Harris, Jalen Duren

New York Knicks (3-1)​


Jalen Brunson, Mikal Bridges, Josh Hart, OG Anunoby, Karl-Anthony Towns

Question of the Day​


Which star is most likely to get moved this offseason — Nikola Jokic, Kevin Durant, Giannis Antetokounmpo, Bam Adebayo

Source: https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2025...ks-preview-detroit-looks-to-keep-season-alive
 
Pistons at Knicks final score: Pistons beat Knicks, force Game 6 in Detroit

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Through five games, the point differential is only Knicks +5 - this is a much closer series for a Detroit team with momentum.

This series between the Detroit Pistons and New York Knicks has been nothing less than a barn burner. The three previous games were decided by a total of nine points, and Tuesday night in Madison Square Garden was no exception.

The game came down to the final possession, and this time, the Pistons were on the winning side, downing the Knicks 106-103. Detroit’s win makes the series 3-2 in New York’s favor and forces a Game 6 back in Detroit on Thursday. It was another physical, defensive game with a gritty Detroit win written all over it.

Cade Cunningham led the way with 24 points on 17 shots while shooting 11-for-12 from the free-throw line — all coming in the second half. He looked calmer tonight than he did in Game 4 - though, he’s still not finishing all that well at the rim. He had eight rebounds and eight assists, and he did a better job of responding to the double team off the pick-and-roll.


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— Detroit Pistons (@DetroitPistons) April 30, 2025

That pick-and-roll help comes from Jalen Duren, who had a unique nine points, 14 rebounds, six assists, and two blocks. He was active the entire game and continues to show a skill set of playmaking out of the short roll. Duren found Ausar Thompson in the dunker spot for an easy two multiple times tonight.

Speaking of Thompson, both Ausar and Tobias Harris excelled in their forward roles tonight. Ausar had 22 points on only 10 attempts - he made eight field goals and shot 6-for-12 from the line. He hounded Brunson all game and contributed to Brunson shooting 25% from the field.


Ausar is dunking EVERYTHING

7️⃣ dunks (and counting) so far pic.twitter.com/WqsSIlYXQ8

— Detroit Pistons (@DetroitPistons) April 30, 2025

Harris added 17 points, eight rebounds, two assists, two steals, and four blocks. He did a lot of everything tonight, and I really commend him for his effort against Towns in the post. KAT looks to post up Tobias multiple times a game, but he’s always battling with him, and I much prefer Towns try a post shot than shoot a three.

Detroit has a chance to tie this series up yet again as they now trail the Knicks 3-2. Coach JB Bickerstaff spoke about taking it one game at a time, and they’ll have their eyes on Game 6 Thursday night as they look to force a Game 7. What an absolute fantastic time to be a Pistons fan.

Man, oh, man - can you imagine how loud it’s going to be in Little Caesars Arena? It’s so great to have playoff basketball back in Detroit again.


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— Detroit Pistons (@DetroitPistons) April 30, 2025

Source: https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2025...-final-score-pistons-beat-knicks-force-game-6
 
Pistons vs. Knicks preview: Detroit hopes to bring a win home

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Little Caesars Arena will be rocking

Jalen Brunson is not a perfect player, but he’s never been afraid of the big moment. Brunson, the New York Knicks star guard, is hobbled with an ankle injury and coming off his worst showing of the postseason. The Detroit Pistons can’t take that for granted. They better be ready for the best of Brunson.

We’ve already seen the best of Ausar Thompson, whose suffocating defense and efficient offense propelled the Pistons to victory in a must-win game 5. Cade Cunningham had an off night until deep in the second half, when a seemingly tired Knicks team couldn’t keep him off the free-throw line. Game 5 also saw a great game from Jalen Duren and another quality, passionate performance from Tobias Harris. The pieces are almost all clicking into place. Here is hoping it is enough to force a decisive Game 7 in New York.

Game Vitals​


When: 7:30 p.m. ET
Where: Little Caesars Arena, Detroit, Michigan
Watch: TNT, TruTV, MAX, FanDuel Sports Network Detroit
Odds: Pistons -1.5

Analysis​


Avoid foul trouble. Force Jalen Brunson to guard for 48 minutes. Limit turnovers.

End.

I guess, I can be a little more verbose than that. Those truly are the three ingredients for a successful Game 6, to my mind. The Pistons excelled by designing some offensive sets that simultaneously took the ball out of Ausar Thompson’s hands and made him infinitely more dangerous as a roaming threat near the basket. Equally as important, though, was Ausar figuring out a way to play top-level aggressive defense without getting into early foul trouble. The Knicks, I am sure, have studied film on how to mitigate some of those easy looks Ausar was feasing on, but his defensive play is up to him, his team (and the refs).

Brunson rolled his ankle late in the game on Tuesday and was forced to sit for the decisive minutes when the Pistons were able to pull away just enough. Detroit needs to maximize the strain on Brunson by forcing him to guard dangerous players at all times. The Pistons aren’t exactly awash in lethality with its perimeter shooters having extended cold spells. However, the Pistons can at least force Brunson into constant movement if they are more willing to use Tim Hardaway Jr., Malik Beasley, and Dennis Schroder as screeners when sharing the floor with Cade Cunningham. Force Brunson to fight through screens, switch onto Cade (who can cook Brunson), or retreat under the screen and sprint to recover.

I have no illusions about Brunson having an equally off night offensively as he did in Game 5, but the Pistons can make him work for his points, and that can pay off as the minutes and the miles pile up on that ankle. It could lead to less efficient offense and a huge defensive mismatch.

The Pistons have 23 more turnovers than the Knicks this series. They have 13 more than the next worst team, which was the completely checked out and overmatched Memphis Grizzlies (granted, they only suffered through a four-game sweep). Leading the playoffs is Cade Cunningham with 29. It would be great to not lead the NBA in those stats. Cunningham, Thompson and Jalen Duren are the guys most likely to unleash a bewildering turnover (or four), and if they can tamp that down, it will put the Pistons in a terrific position to get the W.

I suppose a little more digital ink should be spilled on Cunningham. He’s been so great in these playoffs, it is easy to take his contributions for granted. I’m guilty of focusing more on his flaws (turnovers) than his gifts, but that is only because I know the best version of Cade can play at such a higher level than where he finds himself now.

Where he finds himself now, to be clear, is averaging 25.4 points, 8.6 rebounds, and 8.8 assists per game. He’s also averaging 7.2 trips to the free-throw line. Brunson and Karl-Anthony Towns have played some great basketball, and they have both hit more than a handful of clutch shots in this series. We’re still waiting for that true breakout Cade game. It’d be great to see it happen in Detroit.

But also, let’s not forget how absolutely sick this pass was to Ausar to effectively seal game 5 for the Pistons.

Projected Lineups​

Detroit Pistons (3-2)​


Cade Cunningham, Tim Hardaway Jr., Ausar Thompson, Tobias Harris, Jalen Duren

New York Knicks (3-2)​


Jalen Brunson, Mikal Bridges, Josh Hart, OG Anunoby, Karl-Anthony Towns

Question of the Game​


Any technicals called tonight and who gets them?

Source: https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2025...ew-york-knicks-preview-game-time-tv-odds-more
 
Pistons season ends as they have no answer for clutch Jalen Brunson

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Pistons’ 3-point shot abandons them when they need it most

In yet another game that went down to the final seconds, one team had Jalen Brunson and the other didn’t. The team with Jalen Brunson won the game and is advancing to the second round of the playoffs. The Detroit Pistons fell to the New York Knicks 116-113 to end their season. The Knicks used a decisive 11-1 run in the final 2:35 to eliminate the Pistons.

Detroit had a chance to send the game into overtime, and Malik Beasley, who hit six threes in the first half, had a wide open look, but he fumbled the pass out of bounds.

The game was emblematic of the Pistons season. They went down 15 points early, but fought back, as they always do, to take a 60-59 lead into halftime. They then gave up a big run in the third quarter, but fought back again to lead by as many as seven in the fourth.

But then it was time for one of the NBA’s most clutch players to do his thing. Brunson scored 30 in the first half, but was completely shut down in the second half. Until he wasn’t.

He got things going by hitting an off-ballance bank shot falling down that also drew a Tim Hardaway foul. JB Bickerstaff challenged the call and lost. That cut Detroit’s lead to 112-108.

After an empty Detroit possession, Brunson then hit a ridiculous off-ballance layup when it looked multiple times like he was going to fall over or travel. Instead, he made the shot. That just seems to be what Brunson does.

The Pistons were able to retake the lead on two Jalen Duren free throws, but Brunson drew so much defensive attention on his next shot that Mikal Bridges was able to tip-in the miss to tie it up.

Cade Cunningham missed a good look on a driving layup on the next possession and New York called timeout.

With the game tied with 21 seconds remaining, they put the ball in Brunson’s hands, and Detroit tasked Ausar Thompson with keeping the score tied. Brunson shook off Thompson, created a wide-open look for himself, and swished the game-winning shot.

It was a tough way for the Pistons’ season to end, but end it did.

The real story of the game, aside from Brunson’s heroics, was Detroit’s absolute inability to hit from deep save for a hot streak in the first half from Beasley. Non-Beasley Pistons were 3-of-21 from deep. You can’t win a basketball game when you shoot that poorly from the perimeter.

Cunningham, who finished with 23 points, eight assists and seven rebounds, was 0-of-8 from three. Tim Hardaway Jr. was 1-of-6. Dennis Schroder was 1-of-4.

Jalen Duren was the best player on the court for the Pistons tonight, scoring 21 points, hitting 9-of-10 free throws to go with six rebounds and three assists. He played solid defense when the Pistons needed it, tipped out some rebounds to keep New York off the offensive glass, and took advantage of his offensive opportunities.

It wasn’t enough for Detroit, though. The Pistons put up a hell of a fight, but they couldn’t find the scoring punch when they needed it most.

The Knicks now move on to face the Boston Celtics. The Pistons will now have an offseason to think about all of the things that went well this season, and all the things they need to work on.

For a team that won 14 games a year ago, being near .500 would have been good enough. Instead, they tripled their win total and became the sixth seed. Making the playoff games competitive would have been good enough. Instead, they played nearly every game down to the wire and were a few bounces (and foul calls) away from taking the series outright.

They proved that this team is no fluke. They will be back next year. And they will be even better.

Source: https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2025...cks-final-score-jalen-brunson-cade-cunningham
 
Pain is better than despair

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The Pistons got ousted from the playoffs in the finals seconds and I couldn’t be happier

I have watched a lot of Detroit Pistons games. As a Pistons fan, I have watched the giving and receiving end of game-winning shots and elimination games. So when Jalen Brunson had the ball in a tie game and shook Ausar Thompson on a crossover to deliver a picture-perfect 3-point shot to eliminate the Pistons from the playoffs, I was shocked by what I felt.

Yes, there was the pain of losing a winnable game. More than pain, though, there was pure joy. I spent the rest of Thursday night smiling.

It was a reaction that even surprised me. But on reflection, it shouldn’t be surprising at all, and it is a takeaway for all Pistons fans right now.

This pain you are feeling, the heartache of watching your Pistons slink off the floor while the opponent celebrated, is much better than the despair we have felt as Pistons fans for the better part of two decades.

Losing a heartbreaking playoff victory is much better than determining which firing, hiring, draft pick, or improbable trade will finally put your favorite franchise on the right track.

The Pistons are on the right track. They showed it. They are one of the best young teams in the NBA. They proved it. It is no fluke that they took the three-seeded Knicks to the limit in five out of six games.

Yes, they were on the losing side of this series, but I’ve never been more confident that they will be right back there next season and significantly better.

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The Despair of Two Decades of Futility​


That stands in stark contrast to October 2023, when I wrote one of the articles I most dreaded, which turned out to be one of my best pieces of writing. The headline was, “My belief in the Detroit Pistons rebuild is at an all-time low.”

It was the beginning of the Monty Williams Era, the latest high-profile coach brought in to save the Pistons, hired by Troy Weaver, the executive who was supposed to be one of the best new GMs in the league. It was 3.5 years into the Weaver, and the crux of the issue was:

I look at Detroit’s potential rotations, and all I see are the flaws. Lack of spacing. Lack of defense. Lack of complementary skills. They went through the painful process of rebuilding the right way. They didn’t take shortcuts. However, I am sitting here in 2023 wondering if the Pistons’ rebuild needs a rebuild.

Read the whole piece. There is a healthy dose of my patented Cade skepticism and Ausar Thompson enthusiasm that gave me the cathartic chuckle I was looking for, as noted in the article’s first paragraph.

It was pure despair last year and most of the years before. It has been the most common feeling I have had since I started covering this team 13 years ago at Detroit Bad Boys. That numbing feeling that while you were hoping for the best, none of it mattered, and it wouldn’t work out.

I never believed in Michael Curry, John Keuster, or Maurice Cheeks. I never trusted the team would spend its money wisely or ace the NBA Draft. When you come away thinking that there is no way your team can build a sustained winner and compete for a title, you’re not left with much.

We have come a long way in a year and a half.

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Cade is Him​


It is not just that Cade Cunningham became Cade CunningHIM. It’s not just that Ausar continues to show he is already one of the league’s best young defenders. It’s not that Isaiah Stewart blossomed as the reserve center we all knew he was at heart, or that Jalen Duren became an elite pick-and-roll partner and grew markedly as a defender. Or that Jaden Ivey was having a career season with an effective 3-point shot and great chemistry with Cunningham before his season-ending injury.

Their 44 wins this season merely match their total from 2015-16. The Pistons have made the playoffs twice since 2008, including 2018-19. So why am I beaming with enthusiasm now when, in 2019, I was writing, “Welcome to the Bleak Griffin Era”?

Because this team is just getting started.

There are plenty of rough terrain to navigate. The Pistons can’t hitch their entire wagon to Tobias Harris, Tim Hardaway Jr., and Dennis Schröder, each on the wrong side of 30, around its young core. They can’t simply rely on internal development to solve all their issues. They have to take risks at some point, including likely breaking up that young core in a difference-making trade.

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A reason to believe​


But the plain fact is that this 44-win team was led by four players projected to be in their starting lineup who are 23 or younger. They have a budding superstar in Cunningham, whose skills are tremendous. His path to improvement is both obvious and achievable (limit turnovers, improve finishing, efficient 3-point shooting).

They finished the season with the lowest payroll in the NBA, and despite Cade Cunningham’s max contract kicking in next season, they should still have plenty of flexibility to maneuver via trades and free agency.

They are not a team whose ceiling felt like habitual first-round exits. In prior playoff seasons, it always felt like it was just nice to be there. Now, the Pistons look like a team that could be building toward title contention. A team that can do some damage.

So, yes, Thursday’s loss hurt. But you don’t get to experience that level of pain without making the playoffs. You don’t get to the heartbreak unless your team is good enough to make you believe that great things are possible.

I believe in this team. I don’t take that for granted. It doesn’t come easily for me. The Pistons haven’t made it easy to believe. And as much pain as I feel, I couldn’t be happier.

I can’t wait for next season.

Source: https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2025...s-detroit-pistons-pain-is-better-than-despair
 
Pistons vs. Knicks GameThread: GameTime, TV, Odds, and More

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You can’t have a Game 7 without a Game 6

The Detroit Pistons have already staved off elimination once, and they are looking to do it again. This time, they are hosting the New York Knicks, and if they can win tonight and force a Game 7, I am not sure how to adequately describe what the atmosphere within Little Caesars Arena will be like. The Pistons were able to force Game 5 behind stifling defense from Ausar Thompson, excellent big-man passing from Jalen Duren, as Cade Cunningham navigated double teams. There was also the aforementioned Cade, who took over in the fourth quarter by bending New York to his will on screens and drives. Cade has orchestrated things beautifully all series, but it hasn’t always translated to his shots falling. In Game 5, he struggled with his shot, but found a rhythm that finally unlocked an ability to get calls on his drives to the lane. After a first half that saw him shoot just 2-of-8 with zero free throws, Cade was 4-of-9 from the field, 1-of-2 from deep, and 11-of-12 from the charity stripe. More of all that, please. Isaiah Stewart will once again not suit up for the Pistons, while New York’s injury report is clean. That doesn’t mean everyone is perfectly healthy, however. Both Jalen Brunson and Josh Hart got banged up in Game 5, and the Pistons should put pressure on both players until they’ve proven they have the strength and stamina to keep up tonight.

Game Vitals​


When: 7:30 p.m. ET
Where: Little Caesars Arena, Detroit, Michigan
Watch: TNT, TruTV, MAX, FanDuel Sports Network Detroit
Odds: Pistons -1.5

Projected Lineups​

Detroit Pistons (3-2)​


Cade Cunningham, Tim Hardaway Jr., Ausar Thompson, Tobias Harris, Jalen Duren

New York Knicks (3-2)​


Jalen Brunson, Mikal Bridges, Josh Hart, OG Anunoby, Karl-Anthony Towns

Source: https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2025...k-knicks-gamethread-gametime-tv-odds-and-more
 
Ausar’s Game 5 was a glimpse at what a championship future looks like

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Thompson gave an enticing preview of how a Peak Pistons team works on both ends of the floor

There was no player I was more disappointed by through the first four games of the series between the Detroit Pistons and New York Knicks than Detroit’s second-year forward Ausar Thompson. We knew things would be tougher in the playoffs for a non-shooting player like Thompson with so much time for the opponent to build a game plan. True to form, offense is difficult, but the biggest issue was Thompson couldn’t seem to get out of his own way. He made a number of unforced errors trying to figure out where he fit into this series.

On Tuesday night, Thompson and his team figured it out. Not only led his team to victory and extend the series, but he also showed everyone what a path to an NBA championship looks like for the Pistons.

Those titles might be years away, and Thompson is certainly several years from becoming the best version of himself, but you can already see how the young, offensively challenged product of Overtime Elite is the second most important player on Detroit’s roster.

On a night when Cade Cunningham, Detroit’s best and most important player, had an off night, Thompson did it all. He matched a career-high with 22 points on 8-of-10 shooting. He also added seven rebounds, two blocks, and hounded Jalen Brunson into his worst performance of the postseason. The Knicks star was limited to 16 points, 4-of-16 shooting and never found a way to put his stamp on the game.

Prior to Tuesday, the Thompson minutes had been a rollercoaster. He played solid defense but fouled a ton and turned the ball over in droves. Because of his offensive limitations, the Pistons and Ausar found success unleashing him as a secondary ball handler to put pressure on the rim and make the right pass. In the playoffs, none of that worked. He struggled mightily in half-court sets and went into Tuesday’s matchup averaging just 10.2 second-half minutes. Ausar, a starter, trailed just little-used Paul Reed, Ron Holland and the now-injured Isaiah Stewart in Detroit’s rotation.

The Pistons switched things up on Tuesday by taking the ball out of Thompson’s hands and putting it into the hands of Jalen Duren. The Pistons often use Duren in screens, but they fed him a steady diet of high-post looks on Tuesday. This allowed Duren to facilitate a dribble hand off or face up to drive and/or dish. The Knicks gave Duren a ton of attention every time he faced up in an attempt to prevent the powerful center from gaining easy access to the rim. Three of Duren’s six assists were to a waiting Thompson, who would go from the corner and sneak behind the defenders into the dunker’s spot for an easy look.

All eight of Thompson’s field goals were assisted on Tuesday. There was minimal dribbling into traffic and zero sophisticated coverage reads with the ball in his hands. Instead, the objective was to find the open space and dunk the basketball. Thompson was happy to oblige.

The Pistons figured out how to use this version of Thompson, and Thompson is quickly learning how to defend superstars without fouling in this version of NBA playoff basketball. And this version of Thompson will not be next year’s version, or the year’s after. He will get better, likely significantly better.

If the Pistons want to have a championship-caliber season, they need Cade Cunningham to continue learning how to orchestrate the game plan, defend all over the floor, and be the alpha on offense. They also need Thompson, an All-NBA Defense style wing who gets tasked with guarding the opposition’s best player, can switch on anybody, and who makes life hell for the other team, to figure out how to be the connective tissue on both ends of the floor for Detroit.

He will need to improve his free-throw shooting and become at least a marginal threat from deep in the corners (in Fred Vinson we trust). Thompson needs to work on those point-forward skills and, being a student of the game, continue to become one of the league’s elite defenders.

If the Pistons are able to get a Cunningham and Thompson who have both reached their respective ceilings, they already have the two key ingredients to an NBA championship. When you have two pieces that fit so well together, and who can contribute at such high levels on the defensive side of the floor, roster construction becomes much easier.

There are many ingredients to a championship team — a Robin to Cade’s Batman on the offensive end, a rim protector, versatile shooters, versatile defenders. In fact, getting a “Robin” could even cost Detroit Ausar. But I bet the team will do whatever they can to keep him a member of the Pistons, because Ausar could be one of the league’s most impactful wings in the league. And that is how NBA championships are won. On Tuesday, we saw a glimpse of a hopeful future, and it was Ausar Thompson wrecking fools.

Source: https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2025...pistons-ausar-thompson-game-5-new-york-knicks
 
Pistons vs. Knicks GameThread: Game Time, TV, Odds, and More

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Pistons hoping to keep season going

There is nothing left to say. The Detroit Pistons are going up against the New York Knicks, facing elimination and the end to a special season. They will once again have to do it without key reserve Isaiah Stewart, who is missing his fourth consecutive game with knee inflammation.

The Knicks have outexecuted the Pistons, especially late, but Detroit has been in every game in the series despite finding themselves down 3-1. The New York stars are simply delivering as advertised when they are needed most. Karl-Anthony Towns is hitting difficult shots inside and connecting from the perimeter. Jalen Brunson is effectively slicing through Detroit defenders and finishing like a superstar within 10 feet. The Pistons need a similar star performance from Cade Cunningham and contributions up and down the roster if they want to keep their season going.

Game Vitals​


When: 7:30 p.m. ET
Where: Madison Square Garden, New York, New York
Watch: TNT, TruTV, MAX, Bally Sports Detroit
Odds: Pistons +5.5

Projected Lineups​

Detroit Pistons (1-3)​


Cade Cunningham, Tim Hardaway Jr., Ausar Thompson, Tobias Harris, Jalen Duren

New York Knicks (3-1)​


Jalen Brunson, Mikal Bridges, Josh Hart, OG Anunoby, Karl-Anthony Towns

Source: https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2025...-knicks-gamethread-game-time-tv-odds-and-more
 
Mailbag! I The Pindown

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Send in your questions now for this week’s episode of The Pindown: A Detroit Pistons Podcast where we’ll discuss some Pistons playoff takeaways. Submit your question to the comments section here or on X/Twitter to @TheRealWesD3 and/or @blakesilverman.

Join us live on Friday at 3 p.m. ET for the show where we’ll talk through the Pistons-Knicks first-round series before it heads to Detroit. What’s your take on Game 1 and Game 2? What adjustments do you think Detroit should make? Who’s your most important Pistons as the series rolls on?

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The Pindown: Off-season, Great Vibes

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Looking back on the season and looking into the offseason

The Pistons have entered the offseason, but, honestly, the vibes are very positive. Rightfully so! This young group took a 3-seeded Knicks team to 3 games! Wes and Blake look back on the playoffs — what was the best moment, is parity in the league leading to more unpredictable outcomes? They also look forward to the offseason and consider what may happen, what they want to see and what is most likely.

We’ve got you covered for all this and more in this week’s episode.

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NBA Draft Lottery: Everything you need to know as a Pistons fan (not much)

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Pistons without first-round pick for third time in 19 years

The NBA Draft Lottery is tonight, and for once, as a Detroit Pistons fan, I am not feeling once ounce of stress. The Pistons have a tremendous habit of being so bad that everything feels like it is riding on the NBA Draft Lottery results, and the kind of luck that leads them to falling about as far as possible and hoping for the best.

Detroit is absent its pick courtesy of a draft night trade way back in 2020 that saw them surrender a future first to the Houston Rockets so they could receive the draft rights to No. 16 pick Isaiah Stewart.

Stewart has proven to be a valuable reserve big man who can be counted among the best defensive rim protectors in the NBA who can also guard out to the perimeter and his the occasional 3-pointer. He was by far the best of Detroit’s three first-round picks in Troy Weaver’s first year as GM (joining Killian Hayes and Saddiq Bey).

Because of various trade maneuvering, that pick now belongs to the Minnesota Timberwolves, who will be picking 17th overall and are not eligible for the lottery tonight.

The Pistons are coming off of three consecutive seasons with the fifth overall pick, falling four spots in the lottery in 2024, four spots in 2023, and two spots in 2022. Much remains to be seen about how their respective careers pan out, but netting Ron Holland, Ausar Thompson and Jaden Ivey, respectively, with those three picks isn’t looking too shabby at the moment.

NBA Draft Lottery Vitals​


When: 7 p.m. ET
Where: United Center, Chicago, Illinois
Watch: ESPN
Odds: Tankathon Odds

NBA Draft Lottery Breakdown​


The Utah Jazz enter with the best odds at the No. 1 overall pick and look to avoid Detroit’s futility over the last two seasons as being the worst team in the league, but dropping four spots to the No. 5 selection.

With the flattened lottery odds, the Jazz, Washington Wizards, and Charlotte Hornets all have identical top-four odds: 14%, 13.4%, 12.7%, 12.0%.

The New Orleans Hornets and Philadelphia 76ers stand at spots four had five, both seemingly desperate to have NBA Draft Lottery luck completely change their franchise fortunes as expensive teams who seem to be going nowhere fast.

The opposite end of that spectrum is the Houston Rockets, who are on the upswing, coming off a season where they finished with the second best record in the Western Conference, and already awash in young talent. They own the Phoenix Suns’ first-round pick, and they have the ninth-best odds entering the lottery. If they vault up, I will be equally furious and also laughing my little butt off at the Suns’ ineptitude. Similarly, if the Sixers are jumped by two teams below them, they will lose their pick to the Oklahoma City Thunder, a team currently fighting to get to the NBA Finals. Rounding out the “rich get richer” trio, is the San Antonio Spurs, who not only have their own pick, No. 8 in the lottery odds, they have Atlanta’s pick at the tail end of the lottery at No. 14.

The talent in this year’s draft seemingly isn’t as potentially star-studded as was projected this time a year ago, but it is still led by potential superstar Cooper Flagg, a rangy, explosive, multi-talented forward from Duke. After that, you are looking at Dylan Harper, Ace Bailey, V.J. Edgecombe, and Tre Johnson rounding out the top five (aka Detroit’s typical floor).

The Pistons won’t have a draft pick until No. 37 overall (via Toronto). I’ll leave it to our resident draft experts to let us know during the offseason who the Pistons could potentially target there, or whether it would be worth it to trade back into the first round for a potential contributor.

All I know is that there is no way that the Pistons or their fans can be disappointed tonight, and it feels mighty good.

Source: https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2025...tons-everything-you-need-to-know-cooper-flagg
 
A statistical review of the Detroit Pistons young core

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Let’s take a look at how the Detroit Pistons young core performed this season.

Let's take a look at the performance of the 13 Pistons players who played some type of role for the Detroit Pistons this season. I put the cutoff point at 28 games played to make sure trade deadline acquisition Dennis Schroder and injured Jaden Ivey would make the cut. I’ll offer my thoughts on the player’s performance and my thoughts on their future with the team. In order to keep things comparable, we’ll look at their averages with the following format:

  • Points/rebounds/assists/steals/blocks on FG%/3P%/FT%

Cade Cunningham - 35.0 minutes over 70 games​


Regular season: 26.1/6.1/9.1/1.0/0.8 on 47%/36%/85%

Playoffs: 25.0/8.3/8.7/1.8/1.3 on 43%/18%/83%

Analysis: Cade took The Leap this season. He was a candidate for Most Improved Player, could make an All-NBA team, and carried the Pistons to their first playoff win in 17 years. Cunningham and Nikola Jokic were the only two players in the league to average 26+ points and 9+ assists. He absolutely put the rest of the league on notice that Cade Cunningham has arrived.

Looking forward: Cade’s biggest weaknesses this season were his turnovers and three-point shooting. Every opponent’s gameplan will involve stopping him, but he still has a loose handle or makes a questionable pass from time-to-time. He struggled to shoot it from deep in the playoffs, and credit NYK for going under screens to dare him to shoot from outside. I have no doubt he’ll be practicing his off-the-dribble threes this summer.

Jaden Ivey - 29.9 minutes over 30 games​


Regular season: 17.6/4.1/4.0/0.9/0.4 on 46%/41%/73%

Playoffs: n/a

Analysis: Man, what a great season for Ivey until his leg fracture that kept him out for the rest of the year. He did fantastic, especially from deep, starting with Cade in the backcourt. With JB Bickerstaff staggering Cade and Ivey in the rotation, Ivey essentially served as the backup point guard as well. If his three-point shooting is legit, look out.

Looking forward: Ivey will be the starting SG at the start of next season as he recovers from his leg injury. He needs to continue to working on his jump shot as I believe his ability to hit from deep will be huge for the starting five. The more teams respect him from the three-point line, the easier it’ll be for him to drive to the rim. Let’s hope his jump in his three-point percentage is for real.

Jalen Duren - 26.1 minutes over 78 games​


Regular season: 11.8/10.3/2.7/0.7/1.1 on 69%/0%/67%

Playoffs: 11.8/10.7/3.5/0.3/1.7 on 65%/0%/83%

Analysis: Duren was an absolute beast this season. He’s an elite pick-and-roll lob threat with Cade, and he displayed improved defense and playmaking throughout the year. He took on a bigger passing role this postseason as NYK looked to double Cunningham, and Duren showed he has the skillset to take on an increased playmaking role next year.

Looking forward: Duren earned himself an extension this summer. At 21 years old, he’s still among the youngest players in the NBA, and his development this year can’t be understated. However, I’m not sure playing Ausar and Duren together is what’s best for the team long term. When one of the young players is finally traded, I can’t help but think it’ll be one of those two due to their inability to shoot.

Ausar Thompson - 22.5 minutes over 59 games​


Regular season: 10.1/5.1/2.3/1.7/0.7 on 54%/22%/64%

Playoffs: 11.5/5.2/1.0/1.2/0.8 on 57%/0%/58%

Analysis: What a polarizing prospect Ausar has been. He returned this season from last year’s blood clot, and took over his spot in the starting lineup after Ivey’s season-ending injury. The jumper still doesn’t look good, but hopefully continuous practice will Fred Vinson will work its magic. Though, I’m not sure Ausar ever becomes a legitimate jump shooter.

Looking forward: Ausar should be the starting SF for Detroit next season as he shares the frontcourt with Tobias Harris and Jalen Duren. My biggest worry about Detroit and their young core is the pairing of Ausar and Duren. I’m of the belief that Cade and Ivey would benefit with more spacing around them, and I think Detroit will always deal with spacing issues when Ausar and Duren share the floor together.

Isaiah Stewart - 19.9 minutes over 72 games​


Regular season: 6.0/5.5/1.7/0.4/1.4 on 56%/32%/76%

Playoffs: n/a (1 game)

Analysis: Beef Stew provided elite rim protection this season, and showed the league that he belongs on the list of best rim protectors. He’s switchable on defense, can guard point guards in space, and knows how to vertically contest shots at the rim. He was finally in his ideal role of first big off the bench, and he was excellent in it.

Looking forward: This team desperately missed Stewart in the playoffs this year, and Detroit would likely be looking at a series victory if he was able to play after Game 1. In a rotation that already features two non-shooters and a rookie that shot 24% from, my biggest complaint about this season is the lack of threes that Stewart shot. To put it into perspective, his attempts were less per game than his rookie year. If Beef Stew is going to make a leap offensively, he needs to shoot more threes.

Ron Holland - 15.6 minutes over 81 games​


Regular season: 6.4/2.7/1.0/0.6/0.2 on 47%/24%/75%

Playoffs: 1.8/1.2/0.0/0.2/0.0 on 0%/0%/90%

Analysis: What an absolute surprise Ron was this year. I was convinced he was going to spend his rookie season with the Cruise, but he played a legitimate role for this team. He’s in your face when he’s guarding you on the perimeter, and he had some extremely impressive finishes at the rim this year.

Looking forward: If Ausar Thompson is in the gym with Fred Vinson this summer, Ron Holland will be with them. His ability to develop as a 3-and-D scorer would be huge for this team. My dream future scenario is being able to play Cade, Ausar, and Ron together as the 1-2-3 to make a jumbo lineup with Cade as the shortest player.

Marcus Sasser - 14.2 minutes over 57 games​


Regular season: 6.6/1.2/2.3/0.6/0.1 on 46%/38%/84%

Playoffs: n/a

Analysis: Marcus Sasser was the king of consistency is a year of inconsistency. His minutes and play time were incredibly inconsistent throughout the season. Yet, every time he was on the floor, he played well. He continues to be a better scorer than a playmaker, but he can fit off-ball with either Cade or Ivey.

Looking forward: I think Sasser deserves to be the fourth guard on next year’s team. He’s cheap, he’s a reliable three-point shooter, and he fits well next to the guards already on the roster. However, I could also see Sasser being moved in a trade this summer if some consolidation of the young guys occurs.

Source: https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2025...s-cade-cunningham-young-core-season-in-review
 
NBA Playoffs Conference Semis Open Thread: Better late than never

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A place to talk basketball

The NBA Playoffs no longer include the Detroit Pistons, but they are still offering plenty of intrigue. I’ve been negligent in not providing a space for the Detroit Bad Boys faithful to talk all the ongoing series, surprises, disappointments, and downright collapses.

Our old foes the New York Knicks are currently up 2-1 on the Boston Celtics, and I guess that makes the Knicks our friends now? Brunson foul-batiing aside, even when they were facing the Pistons, it was hard to put too much hate on New York, if I’m being honest. Brunson is a stone-cold killer, Karl-Anthony Towns is fun to watch operate in the post, and Mikal Bridges has the longest arms on a person I’ve ever seen in my life. Josh Hart and Mitchell Robinson are certified dogs who would make Isaiah Stewart proud. New York finds itself up 2-1 because the Celtics seems like the opposite of all that. Swap out heart for math and grit for execution, and you have the Celts.

Decisions that are logically sound and also seemingly infuriating and sometimes pathetic. It’s a brand of basketball that can look beautiful but also still give you the ick. Shooting variance is ruling the day (the nerds will tell you all about shot quality and shooting variance any time you complain the Celtics' offense is lacking any sort of punch or creativity. Boston finally got shots to go down in game three, but I would still be worried if I was hoping for a Celtics repeat.

Next on my hit list is the utter collapse of the Cavs, who have been beclowned by the Indiana Pacers. The jewels of the East somehow find themselves down 3-1 and potentially missing Donovan Mitchell in a must-win game five. The Cavs’ offense has been stagnant, and Indy is like a school of sharks that have sensed blood in the water since the opening tip. They are definitely a team that will torment their prey until the bitter end. Maybe Evan Mobley finally shows up?

On the Western side of the bracket, we have a moderately interesting Timberwolves-Warriors series that looked a lot more interesting when Steph Curry was healthy. Here’s hoping they can somehow stretch this thing to seven and we have Curry vs. Anthony Edwards and a potential passing of the face of the league torch.

Finally, we have the Thunder and Nuggets playing in games I always seem to be falling asleep during. I’m not sure how the series is tied 2-2 because anytime I start nodding off it has been with full confidence OKC is in the driver’s seat. Nikola Jokic isn’t playing at an MVP level, but somehow Denver has stolen two games and who knows where this series is going if Jokic can fully lock in.

Source: https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2025...ence-semis-open-thread-better-late-than-never
 
Submit your questions for The Pindown: A Detroit Pistons Podcast

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Join us live on Friday at 5 p.m. ET for the show where we’ll talk reflect on the Pistons’ incredible season. What are you most excited for looking ahead? What, if anything, are you looking for from the Pistons as we inch closer to the NBA draft? Does this New York Knicks’ run make you even more excited for the Pistons’ future?

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The Dennis Schröder dilemma

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Is he too good to let walk or too much of a luxury for a team counting on a significant role for Jaden Ivey next season?

With the summer fast approaching, the Detroit Pistons are faced with their most fascinating offseason in many years. Detroit will have legitimate expectations coming into a season for the first time in nearly two decades. Aside from potential trade rumors, all eyes will be on looming decisions with Detroit’s veteran free agents, most notably Malik Beasely, Tim Hardaway Jr, and Dennis Schröder.

Schröder, in particular, is a unique dilemma for the organization given his impact and potential fit with a fully intact roster. As the team’s key trade deadline acquisition, he played a huge role in Detroit’s late-season success. He played even better in Detroit’s subsequent playoff matchup against the New York Knicks as one of the most reliable sources of non-Cade Cunningham offense and perimeter defense. Early reports suggest that the team has an interest in a reunion with the 31-year-old journeyman.

Admittedly, I am not a salary cap expert. So, for the purposes of this exercise, let’s assume that the organization and guard were to agree on a contract that makes financial sense for both sides. With that in mind, we’ll focus on the potential on-court benefits and drawbacks of bringing back Schröder. He was a terrific backup point guard for a Pistons team that was lacking in that skillset following the injury to Jaden Ivey. Of course, Ivey is expected to be healthy next season and play a significant role on the team. Therein lies the Schröder dilemma.

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The Case For​


Schröder’s impact on the team’s steady ascent last season was profound. He played many different roles for the Pistons after coming over at the deadline, and played them all to near perfection. He kept the team afloat down the stretch as its primary facilitator during Cade Cunningham’s injury-related absence. He served as a motor to the second unit, living in the paint while creating shots for key pieces such as Beasely, Isaiah Stewart, and Ron Holland. Furthermore, the German guard proved capable of playing alongside Cunningham, allowing the Pistons star to play off the ball more frequently and subsequently relieving some of the offensive load in crunch time.

While all of the aforementioned attributes are great, perhaps his greatest impact is his defense. Schröder is an absolute pest who is willing to pick up ball handlers 94 feet and irritate the hell out of opposing guards and wings. He bolsters the team’s defense in a real way, and is another body to throw at the other team’s best perimeter player in addition to Ausar Thompson and Ron Holland. This also relieves Detroit’s high usage offensive players from needing to guard players who are at the top of the scouting report. Simply put, Schröder fills a lot of gaps that allow the team to function at peak levels.

Lastly, Dennis Schröder is a perfect cultural fit in the organization and city, as his playing style quickly endeared him to his teammates and fans alike. His hard-nosed defense and propensity for mixing it up are not unlike many key role players from great Pistons iterations of the past. I am of the belief that any team that is serious about contending needs a guy like Schröder on their roster. He is a player who not only embraces their role, but is fearless, seeks confrontation, and has a screw loose in the best possible way. These players are hard to find, as they impact winning at a high level, even in a smaller role.

Simply put, Schröder can tilt games with his energy and intangibles alone. And it doesn’t hurt that the veteran brings loads of playoff experience to a team whose core is still all below the age of 25. That impact was especially felt in the playoffs, where you could make the case that Schröder was the team’s most consistent player besides Cunningham. He was clearly unafraid of the moment and delivered routinely when called upon. Even with another year of development and experience for the youngsters, a steady hand who has been there and done that would be an obvious boost to the rotation. Bringing him back would likely give the organization a greater chance to continue to be competitive now.

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The Case Against​


Speaking of the rotation, Schröder’s fit into a fully healthy one is where things become less certain. When the team acquired him, Jaden Ivey was still out with a broken fibula, making Schröder’s fit seamless as he slid right into Marcus Sasser’s minutes and served as the team’s backup point guard. With a healthy Ivey expected to be in the fold when training camp starts, identifying Schröder’s exact role becomes murky.

At his best, Ivey can and should serve as a secondary creator alongside Cunninham. Furthermore, when the Pistons star sits, Ivey’s skillset is best suited to be the primary on-ball creator with the second unit, as he was prior to being injured. This type of role accentuates the Purdue product’s skillset, as he can get to the rim at will and has shown above-average passing and creativity (despite his sloppiness with the ball). That becomes a problem with Schröder in the mix, as there is a lot of overlap with their skills. If Ivey is slotted for on-ball reps with the second unit, then his backcourt mate ideally would need to be able to space the floor. Though Schröder’s career clip from deep is only slightly below league average, he is a streaky shooter who does not consistently draw hard closeouts. This lack of spacing would allow defenders to routinely cheat over to help on Ivey drives, thus causing spacing issues and bogging down the offense. With a possible extension for Ivey on the horizon, how can Detroit not afford to put the best possible spacing and complementary pieces around him to see how he impacts winning at his best? If Schröder cannot play effectively alongside Ivey, then his avenues for seeing the court become extremely limited when the roster is fully healthy. And though their minutes were successful this year together, his lack of spacing presents a similar issue alongside Cunningham in the long term.

While he is less important than Ivey, Marcus Sasser has been a player that the previous front office regime was high on and invested a lot of resources in. Going into his third year, how does he factor into the equation?

In limited opportunities, he has been highly efficient from 3, and proved capable of bringing instant offense off the bench. While his defense is far from the level of Schröder’s, he competes on that end. Overall, he has stepped in when needed, but the jury is still out on whether or not he’s a long-term piece. Does Detroit want to figure out the answer this coming season? Resigning Schröder would make his path to playing time harder than it already is.

If internal development is truly Detroit’s priority, and by all accounts it is at this point, then Schröder’s presence makes it tougher for the organization to provide ample opportunities to evaluate its young guards. In an ideal world, it would be great to bring him back as an insurance policy for Ivey and/or Sasser. But after playing on 3 teams last season, coupled with his stellar postseason performance, one would think that Schröder will be looking to find a home this offseason. It would also be unlikely that he agrees to a role that does not guarantee him playing time. The case against bringing him back would be to let Ivey and Sasser sink or swim, and combine the salary slots previously allotted for Schröder and Hardaway Jr. to bring in a 3 and D type player who would better complement the offensive skill sets of the team’s young backcourt.



Do you think the Pistons are best served retaining Schröder? If not, how would you like to see the team spend its resources elsewhere?

Source: https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2025/5/14/24428795/detroit-pistons-offseason-dennis-schroder-dilemma
 
A statistical review of the Detroit Pistons veteran players

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Let’s take a look at how the Detroit Pistons veteran players performed this season.

Now it is time to take a look at the performance of the 13 Detroit Pistons players who played some type of role for Detroit this season. I put the cutoff point at 28 games played to make sure trade deadline acquisition Dennis Schroder and injured Jaden Ivey would make the cut. Previously, I examined the Pistons’ young core. I’ll offer my thoughts on each player’s performance and my thoughts on their future with the team. In order to keep things comparable, we’ll look at their averages with the following format:

  • Points/rebounds/assists/steals/blocks on FG%/3P%/FT%

Tobias Harris - 31.6 minutes over 73 games​


Regular season: 13.7/5.9/2.2/1.0/0.8 on 48%/35%/86%

Playoffs: 15.7/7.7/0.5/1.0/1.2 on 48%/44%/100%

Analysis: This is exactly the Tobias Harris I expected this season when Trajan Langdon signed him last summer. He was a steady vet, fit into a huge weakness on this Pistons roster, and felt like this team’s glue guy. He’s not great, and he’s not bad - but he’s exactly the type of player this team needed this season.

Looking forward: I expect Tobias to be the team’s starting PF again next year, but by default, he’ll be the guy involved in all the fake trades for star players this summer. He’ll be on an expiring deal, and his salary is the highest on the team outside of Cade. I can’t see a world where the team moves on from Tobias this early, but we’ll see if Trajan needs Tobias and his contract to improve the team via trade.

Tim Hardaway Jr - 28.0 minutes over 77 games​


Regular season: 11.0/2.4/1.6/0.5/0.1 on 41%/37%/86%

Playoffs: 12.0/2.8/1.2/0.3/0.0 on 34%/31%/80%

Analysis: THJ started in every game he played this season, either next to Jaden Ivey or Ausar Thompson. He played his role as a catch-and-shoot threat who offered effort on defense. There are times where his shot is streaky or you question his shot selection, but the best thing he did was open up the floor from the team’s young players.

Looking forward: Hardaway Jr doesn’t currently have a contract with Detroit, and I’m not convinced he’ll get another one. I expect Langdon to prioritize signing Beasley this summer, and I would give Sasser the fourth guard role given he’s still on his rookie contract. Now that Cade’s contract is expensive, Trajan will have to be more meticulous about how he spends his money.

Malik Beasley - 27.8 minutes over 82 games​


Regular season: 16.3/2.6/1.7/0.9/0.1 on 43%/42%/68%

Playoffs: 14.0/2.5/1.2/0.5/0.2 on 37%/34%/100%

Analysis: Is it fair to say Malik Beasley was the best free agent signing in the league this summer? He was an absolute sniper for Detroit, and instantly showed elite off-ball chemistry with Cade Cunningham. If he hits a few more open threes in the playoffs, I think Detroit would’ve seen the second round.

Looking forward: Beasley just became a fan favorite, and I think he’ll be around for the next couple of years. He seems like the ultimate sixth man for this team and the ideal third guard in the Cade-Ivey-Beasley rotation. I expect Beasley to be Trajan’s top priority this offseason, and I’d like to see him sign a three-year deal.

Dennis Schroder - 25.2 minutes over 28 games​


Regular season: 10.8/2.6/5.3/0.5/0.2 on 38%/30%/83%

Playoffs: 12.5/2.3/3.7/1.2/0.2 on 49%/48%/50%

Analysis: Schroder was a trade deadline acquisition to help provide an additional ball handler in the rotation. He seemed to have bought in to the culture right away, and he played his best basketball in a Pistons uniform this postseason, including hitting multiple clutch three-pointers.

Looking forward: Is their room on next year’s roster for Schroder? How many minutes are left over for him if Cade, Ivey, and Beasley are in front of him? I think only one of Beasley, Hardaway, and Schroder will return next season due to the numbers of guards already on the team, so I’m not sure we’ll see Schroder in Detroit again.

Simone Fontecchio - 16.5 minutes over 75 games​


Regular season: 5.9/2.9/0.9/0.4/0.2 on 40%/34%/83%

Playoffs: n/a

Analysis: Simone probably had the most disappointing performance of any Detroit Piston this season. He shot above 40% from three with Detroit when he was acquired at last year’s trade deadline and looked like a strong catch-and-shoot threat for Cade. Yet, for some reason, he tried to dribble a lot more this year and the results weren’t great.

Looking forward: If there’s a player that gets traded this offseason, my money is on Simone. I think the team wants to see what they have in Bobi Klintman, and Bobi won’t cost the team $8 million next season. Since Fontecchio is on a cheap, expiring deal, I think he’s most likely to be on another team next year.

Paul Reed - 9.7 minutes over 45 games​


Regular season: 4.1/2.7/1.0/0.9/0.6 on 51%/29%/76%

Playoffs: 2.8/3.0/0.2/1.0/0.6 on 63%/0%/67%

Analysis: BBall Paul was a great third big for Detroit this year. He brings effort on defense, he has active hands, and he can hit the occasional jumper. He was tasked with filling Isaiah’s Stewart’s role in the playoffs, and it felt like he played as best as he could.

Looking forward: I would gladly support bringing Paul Reed back in the same role next year. However, once again, I would not be upset if we wanted a big that could stretch the floor.

Source: https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2025...alik-beasley-veteran-players-season-in-review
 
The Pindown: How to Maximize Jaden Ivey

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Discussing Ivey’s role, Duren’s jumper & more!

Blake and Wes are here to guide us through the offseason, but first, they take a deep dive into the offseason for Jaden Ivey and Jalen Duren. What is the one thing Ivey can improve to make yet another leap next year? Is it a good idea to have him play off movement more often? And what of Duren developing a free throw line jumper? Would that open up the offense? The guys also discuss Ausar at the four, the draft lottery and make an NBA finals prediction.

We’ve got you covered for all this and more in this week’s episode.

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