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Pistons vs. Wizards in preseason finale

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The Detroit Pistons are wrapping up their preseason on a rather somber note, with the announcement that guard Jaden Ivey will miss at least four weeks after undergoing a procedure on his knee to alleviate discomfort just hours before the tip-off of their preseason finale against the Washington Wizards.

As if playing the Wizards wasn’t depressing enough.

The good news, I suppose, is that the Pistons will have Cade Cunningham and Caris LeVert back in the lineup. With some reflection, that is actually great news and who gives a s—- news.

Game Vitals​


When: 7 p.m. ET
Where: Little Caesars Arena, Detroit, Michigan
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Odds: Pistons -5.5

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Analysis​


It’s still awfully cloudy what the Detroit Pistons plan to do with their regular lineup and bench rotations. The loss of Jaden Ivey for an extended period just makes that doubly confusing. Most immediately, it opens up wing minutes for Ron Holland and Duncan Robinson. Regarding backup point guard, it allows Marcus Sasser a throughline to some more consistent minutes. Unless and until Dannis Jenkins is able to surplant Sasser. The two-way guard is not nearly the scoring threat that Sasser is, but he’s clearly the superior point guard as a distributor and someone who can run the offense. He also plays better defense.

LeVert has played only one (terrible) game for the Pistons this preseason. Hopefully tonight he can wash some of that stink off and play his brand of all-around helpful basketball. He could be someone the Pistons look to as a bench distributor so it’s important for him to not continue being awful.

Projected Lineups​

Detroit Pistons (1-2)​


Cade Cunningham, Duncan Robinson, Ausar Thompson, Tobias Harris, Jalen Duren

Washington Wizards (1-3)​


Bub Carrington, CJ McCollum, Khris Middleton, Kyshawn George, Alex Sarr

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Jaden Ivey out at least four weeks after knee procedure

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Man, this is tough news to hear before the season even starts.

The Detroit Pistons announced that Jaden Ivey underwent a procedure to “relieve right knee discomfort.”

The @DetroitPistons today announced the following medical update on guard Jaden Ivey: pic.twitter.com/JX5Xdii2zN

— Pistons PR (@Pistons_PR) October 16, 2025
Pistons guard Jaden Ivey underwent an arthroscopic procedure to relieve right knee discomfort and will be re-evaluated in four weeks.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) October 16, 2025

In announcing the procedure, the Pistons note that it does not have any connection to his fibula injury last year, and he’ll be re-evaluated in four weeks. We may not see Jaden Ivey back on the basketball court until late November, and that’s an unfortunate thought given the team’s lack of data with Ivey and Ausar Thompson on the floor together.

Detroit will start this season next week without its fourth-year shooting guard after missing him for more than 50 games last year. I would expect to see Duncan Robinson or Ron Holland take his place in the starting lineup next Wednesday against the Bulls.

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The Pindown I It’s Time for DEtroit Basketball

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Finally! The NBA offseason has come to a close, the Pistons have wrapped up their preseason slate — it’s time for some real basketball! And Blake and Wes have just the guest to get us ready. Robbie Bettelton (Bobby Buckets) joins the show to give a deep dive into the preseason games and preview the regular season. He provides insight into one major positive trend from these four preseason games and one that the team should work on. The guys also discuss Jaden Ivey’s injury and why the team should NOT go out and sign a free agent to fill the void, yet. As well, the trio breaks down the lineups they are most excited to see, how the team matches up with the Chicago Bulls and which new Piston is likely to start in Jaden Ivey’s stead.

We’ve got you covered for all this and more in this week’s episode!

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The Pindown: Cade is too Good for the Preseason

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Preseason basketball has begun and Blake and Wes are here to break down all you need to know from the Pistons first two games! First, they discuss why Cade’s performance has been so incredible in the context of his previous preseason showings. They explore Ausar Thompson’s role so far, how has his handle looked? Where can he improve? In what situations will he succeed most often with the ball in his hands? And how much will we see point-Ausar in the season with a healthy Jaden Ivey. Speaking of, they also discuss Ivey looking rusty in the first game, Ron Holland looking comfortable, and why all of this positivity can be linked back to JB Bickerstaff and the coaching continuity over the summer.

We’ve got you covered for all this and more in this week’s episode!

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Detroit Pistons looking to show they’re not going anywhere

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For the better part of the past two decades, there has been a constant theme of the Detroit Pistons staying the course — for better and, usually, for worse. Struggling in the post-Going to Work era? You can’t fire Joe Dumars; he built a champion. Cycle through coaches like tissue paper, but you can’t move off of your core players.

When change finally does come, it comes all at once, and the man who dynamited the previous situation is given a long leash. Stan Van Gundy was given the keys to the kingdom for the last four years with one plus-.500 season. The Andre Drummond era, whatever it ultimately was, lasted eight years. Then came Troy Weaver. he blew up a franchise and within a year, the longest tenured member of the team was his first first-round draft pick (Killian Hayes). Despite continually finishing at the bottom of the standings and several questionable personnel moves, he lasted four seasons.

Why rehash the past? Because it’s an interesting way to consider the present. A present that features so much promise and potential, and a future that is certainly not guaranteed success. What the franchise does in the wake of its most successful season in years is critical. And in the end, they … stayed the course.

There were no major offseason signings or consolidation trades. The Pistons tripled their win total a year ago on the backs of budding superstar Cade Cunningham, some promising young potential, and some one-dimensional but highly efficient role players, who created the space for all those young guys to operate in.

They gave Cade his post-rookie max, kept all their young players, and swapped out veteran talent for veteran talent. They stayed the course.

Out goes Tim Hardaway Jr., in comes Caris LeVert. Out goes Malik Beasley, in comes Duncan Robinson. Out goes Dennis Schroder, in comes a healthy Jaden Ivey (or so we hoped). The team will still live and die on the continued growth of that young core — Cade, Ivey (when healthy), Ausar Thompson, Ron Holland, Jalen Duren, and Isaiah Stewart.

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That can be terrifying for a lot of Pistons fans. They have seen staying the course go terribly, terribly wrong. They see the Eastern Conference as ripe for the picking, with no clear powerhouse. They see a bunch of young talent that might not be a good enough star to play alongside Cade. They see the Orlando Magic adding Desmond Bane and the Atlanta Hawks adding Nickeil Alexander-Walker and Kristaps Porzingis, and wonder if they’re letting teams pass them by.

No, the Pistons didn’t necessarily get better this offseason, but I think they will be better.

I believe in the core young talent of this team, and I also believe people are sleeping on what the offseason additions of Robinson and LeVert allow them to do.

Let’s start with the young core.

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The Core​

Cade Cunningham​


Cade Cunningham is getting better every season, and he was already on a third-team All-NBA tier. This season he could become a top-10 player in the NBA with a massive offensive responsibility, growing defensive chops, and enough help around him to allow him to not run out of gas late in games.

He has looked electric in limited minutes this preseason, and the core of what he needs to improve is so clear, and so seemingly attainable, I’ll be shocked if he doesn’t take steps in the right direction. It’s all about cutting down turnovers, improving perimeter shooting, and finishing better inside for Mr. Cunningham.

If Cade can go from 5 free throws per game to 7.5 free throws per game, it’s a huge sign of growth. If he can get his 3-point shooting consistently into the 39% range, it opens up the rest of his game. If he can cut a turnover per game from his ledger, the entire team becomes more effective on offense.

Ausar Thompson​


Then we get to Ausar Thompson. I don’t care that the Pistons have maybe the league’s best shooting coach on their roster. Fred Vinson isn’t turning Thompson into a 3-point threat overnight. It’s going to take years. YEARS. To ever get Thompson from abject disaster to acceptable. But there are plenty of ways Thompson can improve his game while still being devoid of the threat of outside scoring.

The Pistons know that too, and that is why Thompson has been working so prodigiously this offseason on his ball handling and playmaking skills. He’s not going to confused for a point guard anytime soon, but even in the preseason, we’ve seen Thompson effectively take the ball up the floor most minutes when he playing. That takes a huge load off Cade and creates driving and assist opportunities for Ausar. If the other Thompson twin can become an effective playmaker, it allows him to be effective without scoring and allows the Pistons to squeeze even more time to deploy his All-NBA-level defense.

Jalen Duren​


The name of the game for Jalen Duren is defense. Learn how to play it much better. Duren is a great rebounder and has unbelievable rim-running chemistry with Cunningham, so it’s almost always good when Duren finds himself on the floor. But he’s a non-shooting big who doesn’t play great defense. If Duren wants to be in Detroit long term, he has to provide the team a compelling reason to throw him a bag and not go the replacement-level center route to play in front of or behind Isaiah Stewart. Duren has threatened to hoist some threes this season, but I’d much rather have him focus on not being out of position and continuing to be a willing (but more careful) passer.

Jaden Ivey​


Then there is Jaden Ivey. Ivey is out four weeks at least with knee discomfort. That’s scary. It’s also a bit heartbreaking after Ivey worked so hard to come back from a broken fibula. Secondary injuries aren’t uncommon as players overcompensate or put too much stress on one part of the body while another is healing. Let’s hope it is a temporary setback because if the improved Pistons can get the Ivey we saw last season, this would be top-3 team in the East. He was hitting down his perimeter shots, he was finishing better inside, and he was making slightly fewer wild mistakes as a distributor. It feels like Ivey wants to be great. I’m not sure he ever gets there, but this is the season he needs to show he has a long-term spot playing alongside Cunningham.

Ron Holland​


Ron Holland looks ready to take the leap. He looks much strong, much more confident, and much more skilled as he enters year two. That’s a scary proposition for a player who already looked like he was contributing to winning basketball as a rookie who didn’t quite know what he was doing on the floor. Holland could become a mainstay alongside Ausar as a two-person wrecking crew on defense who also can get up and down the floor and create transition scoring opportunities.

You always need players who have the juice to make it through an 82-game season and be primed to make noise in the playoffs. I have no question Holland has the juice. I do question whether he has the shooting chops to be a plug-and-play at multiple positions on the floor, but his shot certainly looks smooth these days. Still, there is a long way to go from 23% shooter from deep to somewhere respectable.

Isaiah Stewart​


I’m not saying I want it to happen, but it does feel like we’re going to see more two-big lineups from the Pistons this season. It’s a bit in vogue right now to deploy multiple bigs, the Pistons still have some depth issues at power forward, and Stewart, Detroit’s best interior defender, has talked about reintroducing the three-ball to his game more consistently. As long as it doesn’t take away from Stewart’s ability to be one of the most effective interior defenders in the NBA, I’m all for it. Stewart is never going to be a guy who is a prolific inside scorer — he just doesn’t have the size for it. Instead, he can subsist on broken plays, putbacks, and plenty of perimeter shots. There’s no reason not to let them fly, Beef Stew. Let’s make it happen.

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The Vets​


After running through nearly all members of the young core for the Pistons, we need to turn to the straws that turn all the drinks — the veteran players who know how to shoot, know where to be, and create the opportunities for the young guys to show off their skills.

Tobias Harris​


The steady hand of the Detroit Pistons, Unc is a highly paid security blanket, and I mostly mean that as a compliment. When you need a score, Harris knows how to score. When you need someone to communicate defensively and put players in the right spots, he knows how to get it done. He’s a steady 15 points every night, never takes too many shots, and doesn’t give the game away on defense. He’s also a player the young guys look up to tremendously, and is an important a locker room presence as the Pistons have.

Duncan Robinson​


I’m most excited for Duncan Robinson to join the Pistons this season. Is it because I think he’s going to be able to replicate what Malik Beasley provided last season? No. Not even Beasley could have delivered a season that good again. It was an outlier, and Beas was primed for regression. After Malik’s legal troubles forced the Pistons to explore alternative options, the Pistons shifted focus to Robinson. He should be able to provide the kind of season Robinson typically does, which is also a typical very good shooting season from Beasley. He’ll also do it as a 6-foot-7 forward instead of as a 6-foot-4 guard. That height difference will make all the difference.

There were games last season where the Pistons were trotting out Beasley as a defacto small foward because they needed his shooting on the floor but were trying to hide his defense. It put Detroit in a lot of awakward defensive positions. Robinson will never be confused for an all-world defender, but he can hold his own, and he can do it at a legit 6-foot-7. Being able to slide Duncan in at small foward, or even power forward depending on the matchups allows Detroit much great flexibility in what the makeup of the backcourt could look like. It opens up more space for Ivey, Holland, or even players like Marcus Sasser or, dare I say, Daniss Jenkins.

Robinson is also a better secondary playmaker than Beasley was, and when defenses force Robinson off the line, the ball won’t stick. He will drive and kick and keep the offense humming. I am a believer.

Caris LeVert​


I have much less faith in LeVert as a player, but the logic still holds. LeVert is 6-foot-6 and can play three positions, including point guard if needed. His size allows the Pistons to make space for an undersize non-shooting guard who can score like Sasser. Or the team could plug LeVert in at point while Cade is resting and see if they can get a chaos and shooting lineup on the floor with Stewart, Thompson, Holland, and Robinson all sharing the floor. Big-time defenders, big-time shooters, big players.

Lineup versatility and improved defense is what I think the Pistons are after this season. They are moving away from relying on effective, but one-note shooting vets like Hardaway and Beasley. Instead, they will throw out plenty of lineups with defensive and offensive versatility, keep their heads above water on offense, and really amp up the power of their defense.

Will it work? It all works on paper until the moment your team experiences a scoring drout and suddenly you have no idea where your points are going to come from. But I do think this will be just as much of a fan-favorite team as last year, just with a different flavor profile.

It should be a fun season, and one where the Pistons announce themselves as mainstays in the Eastern Conference playoff picture. This team is here, this team is dangerous, and it’s not going anywhere.

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Pistons vs. Bulls GameThread: Game Time, TV, Odds, and More

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Tonight is the night we see the further ascension of Cade Cunningham. This could be the start of the kind of season that gets him into First-Team All-NBA or even the MVP conversation. It could be the start of a season that cements the core of the Detroit Pistons as one to build around, and of the Pistons as playoff mainstays. Those are the stakes and, in my opinion, not-so-unreasonable expectations. It starts with game 1 of the 2025-26 NBA season and a game against the Chicago Bulls.

The Bulls don’t have the same sort of lofty expectations as the Pistons, but they do hope to improve and hopefully not find themselves on the wrong end of a Play-In Tournament game for the fourth season in a row. While the Pistons’ season starts without Jaden Ivey, the Bulls will be absent their best player in Coby White and a key reserve in Zach Collins.

Game Vitals​


When: 8 p.m. ET
Where: United Center, Chicago, Illinois
Watch: Fan Duel Sports Network Detroit
Odds: Pistons -2.5

Projected Lineups​

Detroit Pistons (0-0)​


Cade Cunningham, Duncan Robinson, Ausar Thompson, Tobias Harris, Jalen Duren

Chicago Bulls (0-0)​


Josh Giddey, Tre Jones, Isaac Okoro, Matas Buzelis, Nikola Vucevic

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Under the Hood: Game 1 at Bulls

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Under the Hood – it’s time to see what’s really going on inside this Pistons team.

Firing on All Cylinders

In a game that definitely needed a spark from Detroit’s side, Ron Holland was the one to provide it.

What an incredible start to Season 2 for RoHo. He played 27 minutes and finished with 19 points, four rebounds, three assists, two steals, and one block while shooting six-for-six from the free throw line. You can feel his energy and presence when he’s on the court, and the ceiling is sky-high for the second-year forward.

His last points are hitting the game-tying three with two minutes left, and that was a thing of beauty. Big time shot for Ron.

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Transmission Trouble

Call me crazy, but I’m not a fan of how many Tobias Harris post-ups we saw last night.

This game was evidence on how this offense misses Jaden Ivey as a second creator when the Cade pick-and-roll isn’t an option. This team took 24 threes and 73 twos, so I think less post-ups and more threes from Tobias would help the efficiency of the offense. I don’t believe Ron Holland (4) should have more three-point attempts than Harris (3) throughout a game, and would prefer Harris’ role to be more of a 3-and-D type of forward. The offense was essentially shooting itself in the foot trying to get him the ball in the post, and if they did, the results weren’t great.

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Mechanic’s Note

Another game against Nikola Vucevic, and Detroit saw another barrage of three-pointers from him.

I wish Stew would watch Vucevic film to try to turn into that type of player offensively. He’s a weapon from deep, and I think his three-point shot is Stew’s best opportunity to score.

Stew hit two threes last night and it made me think my dream of Stretch Five Stew is possible. The first shot he pulled immediately, with confidence and no hesitation, and it looked good! It looked smooth.

The second clip I really enjoy because he realizes Ausar has the ball and decides to space the floor instead of rolling into the paint. He knows Ausar is going to try to get to the rim, so he might as well space out and give him room, and then he’s also making himself available for an open three if his defender helps on Ausar. The latter is exactly what happened to get himself his second three.

More of Stretch Five Stew, please!

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Submit your questions for The Pindown: A Detroit Pistons Podcast

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Send in your questions now for this week’s episode of The Pindown: A Detroit Pistons Podcast to discuss everything Pistons free agency. Submit your question to the comments section here or on X/Twitter to @TheRealWesD3 and/or @blakesilverman.

Join us live on Friday evening after Pistons-Rockets for the show where we’ll discuss the Pistons first two regular-season games. Is there a reason to press the panic button after the opening-night loss to the Bulls? What are your first impressions on Duncan Robinson and Caris LeVert? Does the team need to sign an additional creator?

Plus, The Pindown has a phone line where you can leave a message and hear your voice on the show. Call (313) 355-2717 and leave us a voicemail with your question. Please try to keep the message around 45 seconds or less so we can fit everyone into the show.

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Pistons vs Rockets preview: Don’t get punched first

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The Detroit Pistons can only blame themselves for their snail-start in their season-opening loss against the Chicago Bulls. They walked out to the ring and let the Bulls get multiple combinations of punches off before the Pistons players were ready to fire back. It was a lot too late, but that doesn’t have to be a trend.

The Thompson twins’ matchup may be the most intriguing factor of the game narratively (they won’t even guard each other much, if at all), but seeing how the Pistons respond after a sloth-like performance vs. a team with championship aspirations in the Rockets could tell a lot about this group.

Game Vitals


When: 8 p.m. ET
Where: Toyota Center, Houston, Texas
Watch: Fan Duel Sports Network Detroit
Odds: Pistons +6.5

Analysis​


One thing Detroit can take away from its season-opening loss is the jolt of energy it played with in the fourth quarter. Cade Cunningham woke up and was the best player on the floor. That needs to be the team-wide approach from start to finish against the Rockets.

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Houston is also 0-1, but a double OT loss to the defending champion Oklahoma City Thunder is different than a deflated effort against the play-in mainstay Bulls. It counts the same in the record book, but the process of anything is as important as the results. Forming consistent winning habits against a team with Kevin Durant and Alperen Şengün is paramount.

Nikola Vucevic had his way against Detroit. He torched the Pistons from range and dropped off soft touch floaters when it was time to mix it up. Coming into the season, the Rockets game wasn’t circled on the calendar as a stretch big game, but Şengün may alter that thought process this year.

Şengün was 5-of-8 from 3 on his way to 39 points in the Rockets’ opening loss. His willingness to take those shots will stretch defenses if he can maintain any type of real consistency. Jalen Duren and Isaiah Stewart have their hands full with the Rockets’ point center.

While Şengün brings the ball up and plays the de facto point guard role for the Rockets, Amen is their actual starting point guard in name. He was pretty good overall in the opener. Amen did a lot of the all-around dirty work stuff that Ausar did, too.

More Point Ausar minutes are on the horizon as the Pistons lack a true initiator after Cade. The non-Cade minutes were kind of clunky at times, but seeing what Ausar and Ron Holland are in those minutes is vital, and could pay off at the end of the season. There are real expectations for Detroit to be good, but figuring out the value of every core member is just as important.

Duncan Robinson isn’t part of the long-term core, but he can’t put up two-point stinkers. Teams still stay attached to him when he’s not shooting with confidence, but the Pistons just lost Malik Beasley, who had the greatest 3-point shooting season in Pistons history; they need the production from Duncan.

Kevin Durant is as productive as they come, though I breezed over his name previously. He adds some go-to shotmaking to a Rockets offense that needed someone who could consistently create off the bounce.

Durant wasn’t his usual high-20s scoring self vs a suffocating OKC defense in his Rockets debut. His breakout is coming, but it doesn’t have to be this spot.

Defense drove the Pistons to the sixth seed last year. The effort on that side of the floor needs to be replicated if Detroit wants to accomplish its goals.

In addition to their fourth quarter offensive surge vs the Bulls, the defense in that period was a step above the rest of the game, too. Carry that momentum over to the Rockets game, actually punch them first, and see where that lands you in game 2 of 82.

Projected Lineups

Detroit Pistons (0-1)​


Cade Cunningham, Duncan Robinson, Ausar Thompson, Tobias Harris, Jalen Duren

Houston Rockets (0-1)​


Amen Thompson, Kevin Durant, Jabari Smith Jr., Alperen Şengün, Steven Adams

Question of the day​


How would you define a successful Ron Holland season?

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Pistons at Rockets final score: Depleted Pistons rotation snags season’s first win

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It was a three-hour game with plenty of whistles, and it by no means was an easy victory for Detroit, but they got it done tonight with a 115-111 win. Not only were the Pistons without Jaden Ivey, but Marcus Sasser and Caris LeVert were also ruled out as the guard room was looking thin prior to tip-off.

The Pistons proceeded to lose more rotation players as the first to go was Jalen Duren who was ejected in the second quarter due to a Flagrant 2 foul on Amen Thompson. Later on, both Ron Holland and Isaiah Stewart would pick up their fifth foul in the third just to foul out shortly later in the fourth.

Despite JB Bickerstaff having to close the game without six of his 10-man rotation players, he got the job done to earn his 300th coaching win.

Cade Cunningham played 39 minutes and finished with 21 points, seven rebounds, and nine assists. Houston sent double teams at him all game which contributed to him having eight of the Pistons’ 17 turnovers. He redeemed himself by hitting two free throws with five seconds left to put the Pistons up four and put the dagger in any comeback hopes for Houston fans.

Ausar added 19 points on a team-high 16 shots (tied with Cade). He attempted three three-pointers and drilled one of them while also adding a couple mid-range attempts to his game. He’s certainly being more aggressive so far this season, as is Ron Holland. Ron added 11 points, five rebounds, three assists, and two steals in only 13 minutes – and he hit two threes!

Paul Reed might deserve the MVP award of tonight’s game. He played 19 minutes tonight and all 19 of those minutes felt impactful. He defended well, he hustled, he hit a few jumpers, and he blocked Sengun’s game-tying shot. BBall Paul finished with 13 points, nine rebounds (five offensive), one assist, and two blocks. Those might’ve been the best 19 minutes of his career.

It was a great win for Detroit, and they’ll strive for a winning record at their home opener on Friday night against Boston.

For those of you keeping track of the history after the fourth annual Thompson Twins Tussle, Ausar said to Johnny Kane post-game: “2-2.”

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Under the Hood: Game 2 at Rockets – Cade’s Turnovers

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Under the Hood – it’s time to see what’s really going on inside this Pistons team.

Ime Udoka and the Houston Rockets sent plenty of double teams at Cade Cunningham last night, primarily in the second half. You can almost treat it as a sign of respect that your team has a player worthy of a double team, but it also highlights the team’s weakness of a lack of secondary creation. Cade was able to manage some good possessions off the Houston double-teams, but they were successful a few times, too.

To beat these double-teams off the wing, Cade will want to get the ball to the top of the key or to the middle of the court at the free throw line.

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Firing on All Cylinders

In order to get the ball into the middle after a double-team, you need to make the pass or split the double-team to get it there. Cade’s capable of doing both.

Here, he sees enough room between the screen and Sengun to attack the paint, and he finds Duncan Robinson for an open three when the defense collapses.

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Next, if splitting the pick-and-roll isn’t an option, you want to make the correct read to find the open man. If you’re getting doubled, that means somebody else is open, and Ausar was open on the roll so Cade found him for the assist.

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In the above clip, you’ll notice the top of the key was wide open as well. Depending on what the rest of the court looks like, sometimes the roll won’t be open, but the pop will. Both Duren and Stew set screens on this next play, yet Cade is doubled and the roll isn’t open, so Cade finds Stew for a wide open three.

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Also, sometimes you’re just better than everybody else on the court.

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Transmission Trouble

Houston’s double-teams were also effective last night, and Cade wasn’t able to manage his way out of all of them.

Sometimes splitting the double-team is harder than it looks.

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Sometimes Cade needs to be more accurate on his passes to the middle.

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Sometimes he lets himself get trapped in difficult spots on the court, like how he has to avoid both the double-team and a backcourt violation here.

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Sometimes the pop isn’t available, and you think you’ll have a teammate in the middle even though nobody’s there.

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Cade has had a history of high-turnover games. They’re not all his fault, but there are certainly things he could do better to limit his number of turnovers.

Mechanic’s Note

If you’re looking for somewhere Detroit could improve already, look no further than free throws:

  • Game 1: 18-for-26 (69.2%)
  • Game 2: 15-for-23 (65.2%)
  • Season: 33-for-49 (67.3%)

They’ve played two games that have both been a scoring difference of four points, and Detroit left too many points at the line in each game. Some notable free throw statistics through two games:

  • Cade Cunningham: 10-for-15
  • Ausar Thompson: 1-for-5
  • Ron Holland: 9-for-10
  • Tobias Harris: 1-for-1

Gotta make your free throws!

Source: https://www.detroitbadboys.com/pistons-videos/47747/under-the-hood-game-2-at-rockets-cades-turnovers
 
Pistons vs Celtics GameThread: Game Time, TV, Odds, and More

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The Detroit Pistons are looking to start their 42-game home schedule with a win, but the Boston Celtics are simply looking for their first win of the season and will be hungry. Being a hungry team is one thing; being a hungry team that will definitely be without your leader, Jayson Tatum, and potentially also Jaylen Brown, is another thing altogether. The Pistons are still expected to be without Marcus Sasser and Caris LeVert, both listed as questionable, and Jaden Ivey is, of course, still out.

The Pistons are 1-1 on the season. In their loss against the Chicago Bulls, they had just 14 three-point attempts. In their win against the Houston Rockets, they had 16 three-point makes. Regardless of how much this team wants to be defined by its defense, and how much its young players want to run the floor and create pressure on the rim, it doesn’t matter if you can’t space the floor and hit your shots.

Game Vitals


When: 3:30 p.m. ET
Where: Little Caesars Arena, Detroit, Michigan
Watch: Fan Duel Sports Network Detroit
Odds: Pistons -3.5

Projected Lineups

Detroit Pistons (1-1)​


Cade Cunningham, Duncan Robinson, Ausar Thompson, Tobias Harris, Jalen Duren

Boston Celtics (0-2)​


Payton Prichard, Jaylen Brown, Derrick White, Neemias Queta, Sam Hauser

Source: https://www.detroitbadboys.com/detr...celtics-gamethread-game-time-tv-odds-and-more
 
Pistons vs Celtics final score: Detroit is too big in win over Boston

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That’s two in a row.

The Detroit Pistons defeated the Boston Celtics 119-113 in today’s Sunday matinee. Detroit struggled in the beginning – they were down 17 at one point during the first quarter and had five turnovers in first four minutes. Yet, this team once again this season clawed back against a playoff team to secure a victory.

Ausar Thompson, Ron Holland, and Isaiah Stewart played a huge role in creating a spark that started Detroit’s comeback near the end of the first quarter. With Ron’s number change, they’ve been walking the walk when they said they wanted teams to work 9-to-5. Boston’s roster could not put up with the team’s energy and size for a full 48 minutes.

The whole team had 65 rebounds, and it’s only the third time in the 21st century that the Pistons have had that many rebounds in a game. With Boston playing big men Neemias Queta and Luka Garza at the center position tonight, Jalen Duren feasted. He had 24 points and 17 rebounds, including 10 offensive. He shot 12-for-13 from the free throw line and even made a long mid-range jumper.

Ausar contributed with a double-double of his own as he added in 21 points and 12 rebounds. At one point late in the fourth quarter, Thompson contributed with points, rebounds, or assists in multiple consecutive possessions to help the Pistons keep their lead. It’s now the second game in a row where Ausar was at least second on the team in shot attempts, and I’ll be the brave one by saying I am here for Aggressive Ausar. Oh, yeah – and he went 7-for-8 from the line.

The other high-ceiling wing Ron Holland also continues to impress. He only played 19 minutes and didn’t shoot it well, but you always feel his presence on the court and he’s always doing the dirty work. It’s even more fun when he’s on the court with Ausar and Stew as all three are great at creating havoc for the opposing offense. If you’re looking for a Way Too Early Take, mine is that Ron should be starting over Duncan.

Fearless leader Cade Cunningham led all Detroit players with 25 points while also adding eight assists. He knocked down all seven of his free throw attempts, but it was another high turnover game with six. It’s clear he’s at the top of every opposing team’s scouting report of Detroit as they tend to send multiple people at him frequently. Teams like to disrupt him early by guarding him full-court, but Aggressive Ausar can help with that.

This was the first game of a back-to-back as Detroit plays again tomorrow night against the Cleveland Cavaliers. Time for a tough start to the schedule to get tougher.

Source: https://www.detroitbadboys.com/detr...l-score-detroit-is-too-big-in-win-over-boston
 
The Pindown I Beating the Celtics to Move to 2-1

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Fresh off the Pistons 119-113 victory over the Boston Celtics, Blake and Wes hop on the mics to break down all the fun from the Pistons’ home opener. They discuss how teams are guarding Cade, and how the team might counter it, the impressive play from Ausar Thompson and Ron Holland, and why Tobias Harris was and has been an unsung hero. The guys then turn to overall trends from games one through three, which play has been there favorite so far, and just how impactful Isaiah Stewart has been.

Oh, and happy 100th episode! Cheers to 100 more.

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Pistons vs. Cavs final score: Every Detroit flaw on full display in blowout loss

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The first time Cade Cunningham went to the bench, the Cleveland Cavaliers went on a run, and a close game turned into a big Cavs lead. They never looked back. The Detroit Pistons were thoroughly embarrassed in a 116-95 loss in front of a frustrated Little Caesars Arena crowd.

Every single flaw that has the potential to haunt the Pistons this season was on full display against Cleveland. The Pistons had no spacing, they had no ball handling, they had countless careless turnovers, nobody could create offense for themselves or for others. It was a true horror show.

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In a battle of two stars, Cade Cunningham and Donovan Mitchell, Mitchell lapped Cunningham three times over. The Cavs star finished with 38 points on 18 shots, and had five highlight reel nasty moves as he scored in a multitude of ways. Cunningham, meanwhile, couldn’t make the six or so tough shots he was forced to take, and he couldn’t take the four easy shots he is fully capable of knocking down. He finished the night with 12 points and more turnovers (five) than baskets (three). Cade’s five turnovers led the team, but it was a family affair as the Pistons ended the game with 25 miscues.

The Pistons were already a light-shooting team with depth issues, and they were playing this game without Jaden Ivey, Caris LeVert, and Marcus Sasser — three ostensible ball handlers and shooters. That meant when the Pistons were hoping to be competitive, they were relying on Daniss Jenkins and Javonte Green to give them valuable minutes. They were not up to the challenge.

Not against one of the best teams in the league. Evan Mobley, Jarrett Allen and Deandre Hunter all made several Pistons defenders look silly all night.

The saving grace for the Pistons was limited to Ron Holland who simply continues to do good things on the floor, with the ability to push the ball up the floor, finish at the rim, and hit enough jump shots to keep defenders honest. He finished with 11 points, one of just four Pistons players in double figures, including a quick 11 garbage-time points for Tolu Smith.

Simply put, it’s really hard to win games the way the Pistons are trying to win games early in the season. They are forcing the ball into tight spaces in the paint because they have young players much more interested in finishing at the rim than trying to hit a catch-and-shoot opportunity. They don’t seem interested in trying to create space and easy looks, instead they just want to yam it into a defender’s face.

That’s not going to work in an 82-game season. The Pistons need to get a little healthier, and they need to rethink what their offensive game plan is going to be. They need to make things easier on Cunningham, they need to try to design better open look for their few shooters, and they need to stop thinking if they drive to the rim everything is going to magically work out.

Or there will be plenty of games like the Cavs loss in their future.

Source: https://www.detroitbadboys.com/detr...-detroit-flaw-on-full-display-in-blowout-loss
 
Under the Hood: Game 4 vs Cavs – Everything was bad

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Under the Hood – it’s time to see what’s really going on inside this Pistons team.

Firing on All Cylinders

I’m not sure anything was firing on all cylinders last night for Detroit, and if we’re keeping up with the automobile industry puns, they needed to be towed out of Little Caesars Arena.

If there was a lone bright spot in this one, it was Ron Holland who continues to have an impressive start to his sophomore season.

First, he’s capable of making the “one more” pass, passing up a good shot for his teammate to get a great shot.

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When Evan Mobley gives him too much room, he’s ready to shoot and drills the open three. Sometimes, standing still and offering spacing to your teammates is more important than cutting and possibly clogging the lane. That is something this team is still learning.

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You can see his confidence growing as he looks to create his own shot more. This stepback mid-range jumper was nice.

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And last, this move is sick. It’s a strong take to the rim with a crafty finish. I know Detroit fans like to talk about putting a 20-point per game scorer next to Cade, but perhaps we already have him?

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Transmission Trouble

I mean, jeez – it all was bad. I’m going to focus on showing possessions where the team did not properly space the floor.

A Cade and Duren pick-and-roll to start, but nobody is in the right corner. It looks like Duncan sees that the spacing is off and attempts to fill in the other side, but the action has already started and he gets caught inside. Even if Duren catches this pass, who’s he supposed to kick it out to with no one in the corner he’s looking at?

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Again, this pocket pass is just a bad idea from Cade. There are too many Cavs defenders in the lane, but his teammates aren’t exactly giving him any other options to pass. Duncan is on the opposite wing, Javonte is for some reason jogging around inside the arc, and Ron at one point goes to set an off-ball screen for someone? Cade shouldn’t have made this pass to Stew, but his teammates didn’t make themselves available either.

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Last, this drives me crazy. Ausar cuts at the exact same time Duren is rolling so his defender, Donovan Mitchell, is able to drop into position to defend two Detroit players at once. I know he struggles to shoot, but Ausar essentially helped Cleveland play defense. When this team has a bunch of players who like to score at the rim, spacing the floor isn’t always their top priority. It’s a hard ask of your point guard to read the pick-and-roll defense while also keeping an eye out for a weakside lob opportunity. Tobias ends up being the only one open with Duncan setting an off-ball screen.

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Four guys inside the arc with only one outside – unacceptable spacing.

Mechanic’s Note

I turned the game off at some point in the middle of the third quarter. Did you turn it off early, or are you a true sicko that watched the whole game?

Source: https://www.detroitbadboys.com/pistons-videos/47818/under-the-hood-game-4-vs-cavs-everything-was-bad
 
Pistons vs Cavs GameThread: Game Time, TV, Odds, and More

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The Detroit Pistons are on national TV this evening in a game against Central Division rival(?) the Cleveland Cavaliers. However, it is also exclusively airing on Peacock. If you want to watch the game, you’ll need NBC Universal’s streaming app. As a Traitors fan, I’m already covered. But you might not be in that boat.

Now that that is out of the way, this matchup will be an intriguing matchup between two franchises with pairs of promising and talented big men, led by all-world guards. The Cavs have the edge talent-wise with Evan Mobley and Jarrett Allen, while the Pistons will rely heavily on Jalen Duren, Ausar Thompson, and Isaiah Stewart. Will we see heavy doses of Duren and Stew on the floor at the same time. We’ll see. Then, of course, there is the matchup between Cade Cunningham and Donovan Mitchell. It should be a great matchup.

Game Vitals​


Where: Little Caesars Arena, Detroit, Michigan
When: 7 p.m. ET
Watch: Peacock
Odds: Pistons +2.5

Projected Lineups​

Detroit Pistons (2-1):​


Cade Cunningham, Duncan Robinson, Ausar Thompson, Tobias Harris, Jalen Duren

Cleveland Cavaliers (2-1):​


Donovan Mitchell, Sam Merrill, DeAndre Hunter, Evan Mobley, Jarrett Allen

Source: https://www.detroitbadboys.com/detr...vs-cavs-gamethread-game-time-tv-odds-and-more
 
Submit your questions for The Pindown: A Detroit Pistons Podcast

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Send in your questions now for this week’s episode of The Pindown: A Detroit Pistons Podcast to discuss everything Pistons free agency. Submit your question to the comments section here or on X/Twitter to @TheRealWesD3 and/or @blakesilverman.

Join us live on Friday morning for the show where we’ll discuss the Pistons first five regular-season games. How are you feeling after Detroit’s 3-2 start? What player has been the most pleasant surprise through the first five games? How can the Pistons get around the defensive attack getting sent toward Cade Cunningham? Does Tom Hur need to move to Detroit?

Plus, The Pindown has a phone line where you can leave a message and hear your voice on the show. Call (313) 355-2717 and leave us a voicemail with your question. Please try to keep the message around 45 seconds or less so we can fit everyone into the show.

The podcast will be uploaded to all audio platforms the following morning.

The Pindown: A Detroit Pistons Podcast Vitals:


When: Friday October 31 at 10 a.m. ET

Where: Detroit Bad Boys YouTube Channel

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Under the Hood: Game 5 vs Magic – There was spacing!

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Under the Hood – it’s time to see what’s really going on inside this Pistons team.

The spacing looked a lot better last night than it did against the Cavs, and JB Bickerstaff has a cool set that he utilized at least twice last night when both Stew and Duren were on the floor together.

The set is pretty simple – it’s a double on-ball screen for Cade, first from Stew and then from Duren.

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Both corners are filled and Stew will pop to space the floor while Cade and Duren run their patented pick-and-roll.

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Once Cade gets around the screen, it’s up to him to read the defense and make the right play. He has three teammates behind the arc ready to shoot, he has a rolling lob threat, and he has the ability to get directly to the basket.

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Firing on All Cylinders

Let’s look at that set in live action.

Cade gets two points on this possession with a floater over Goga Bitadze. Paolo Banchero slid over pretty far to help take the Jalen Duren lob threat away, and a skip pass to Ron Holland for an open corner three would’ve also been a great option. We know Ron loves the corner three.

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JB Bickerstaff went back to that same set in the second half.

Orlando defends this one a little differently as both corner defenders don’t help. Banchero drops from the top of the key leaving Stew wide open for a great look. Cade was on a mission, however, and was able to get to the basket to draw the foul and get the and-one basket.

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It’s a simple, but effective, set to get a spaced out floor for Cade with the ball in his hands to do what he does best.

Transmission Trouble

There’s not a whole lot that goes wrong when you put up 135 points in a basketball game. So, let’s take a look at the season statistics from the rotation over their first five games (PTS/REB/AST on FG%/3P%/FT%):

Cade: 22.2/5.6/8.2 on 39.6%/24.2%/81.8%

Tobias: 14.0/6.0/3.2 on 42.4%/30.4%/100%

Duncan: 10.0/2.4/1.2 on 39.5%/38.7%/80.0%

Ausar: 13.8/7.4/4.0 on 46.7%/22.2%/61.1%

Duren: 14.8/10.0/1.2 on 57.1%/0.0%/83.9%

Ron: 11.6/3.2/1.8 on 46.5%/33.3%/84.6%

Stew: 9.2/6.6/1.4 on 44.7%/58.3%/50.0%

Javonte: 5.0/2.4/1.0 on 33.3%/41.7%/66.7%

So, thoughts? What overreactions should we make to this extremely small sample size?

Mechanic’s Note

I saw Ausar hit another mid-range jumper last night, so here’s a highlight reel of all his middy makes from his first five games.

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Source: https://www.detroitbadboys.com/pistons-videos/47871/under-the-hood-game-5-vs-magic-there-was-spacing
 
Pistons vs Magic final score: Cade makes the Magic’s defense disappear

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So much for the low-scoring, defensive battle that was expected tonight.

The Detroit Pistons had a needed bounce-back game tonight against the Orlando Magic with a victory of 135-116. Detroit has struggled offensively so far this season, but they had no offensive struggles tonight.

Well, that isn’t completely true – they did have another slow start where they found themselves down early. Detroit started the game 1-for-10 from the field, though, Ausar Thompson and Jalen Duren missed a couple putbacks at the rim. The Pistons lost another first quarter and found themselves needing to claw back once again.

They were down 10 points as the second quarter began and it started to look similar to the recent poor performance they had against the Cavaliers. Yet, that early season rust started to shake off as the team’s offense was finally able to put some quality possessions together. Detroit took a 65-64 lead thanks to an Ausar three-pointer heading into halftime.

Something happened to this team in the third quarter. The game started getting chippy, particularly between Paolo Banchero and Tobias Harris. Cade Cunningham took an accidental Jalen Suggs fist to eye that seemed to light a fire under him and the entire team. Cade’s play started to look angry and he began to look like that All-NBA player we know. This was one of those games where we really got to see his two-way potential – and he had zero turnovers!

He was even able to get his revenge on Jalen Suggs:

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Put that rabbit back in your hat, Suggs.

Detroit took a 101-92 lead heading into the fourth quarter, and they didn’t look back. Cade continued his impressive offensive performance, black eye and all, to finish with 30 points, six rebounds, 10 assists, three steals, and three blocks in 36 minutes. It was certainly his best game yet this season, though, he’s still struggling for deep. After going 1-for-7 tonight, he’s now 8-for-33 (24%) for the season.

Vets Duncan Robinson and Tobias Harris both deserve shoutouts for their additions tonight. Tobias had 23 points on 13 shots and Duncan added 15 points on seven shots. Two very efficient nights where each player succeeded in their expected role. Duncan also made four threes as he begins to look more comfortable in Detroit’s offense.

Jalen Duren added a double-double with 21 points and 12 rebounds. He’s certainly showing growth already this season, and it’s due to his on-ball play. His ability to get by opposing centers by putting the ball on the floor continues to be an asset to the team. He has a decent handle and is quicker than most centers so they struggle to defend him. Orlando’s centers couldn’t keep up as he shot 12 total free throws. He also shot 13 free throws against the Celtics – he’s 23-for-25 combined in those two games. If his quickness on-ball gets him a jump in free throw attempts, that’s a big opportunity for his offensive production and ceiling.

Ausar had a weird game – he shot 4-for-14, but also had 11 rebounds and six assists. Even when he’s struggling offensively, he’s still able to make an impact on the game. All three of his three-point attempts looked confident, too. Speaking of confident, Ron Holland made two of his five attempts, and that corner three continues to look good. With the lack of three-point shooting that this team currently has, Detroit needs him to take those corner spot-ups. He’s shooting 33% from deep on the season – progress!

It was a great team win as Detroit moves to 3-2, and it was the bounce-back performance the team needed after last game. The Pistons will next play November 1st at 10PM EST in Mexico City for an NBA Global Game on Peacock against the Dallas Mavericks.

Source: https://www.detroitbadboys.com/detr...score-cade-makes-the-magics-defense-disappear
 
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