NFL MVP?

//storage.proboards.com/2930147/avatar/cnEucbYCBIqxP0zXFVib.pngDec 17, 2010 16:30:51 GMT -5 Cameron said:I think Tom Brady is more qualified, and he really deserves it more. But, Michael Vick has had a great season, it would be a great story for him to win the MVP award with all the things that have happened in the past (dog fighting, prison, courts, media, fan hatred, 2nd string QB, 3rd string QB at one point, I think, the fact that the Eagles liked Kevin Kolb better for quite sometime, and many other things as well).Well... he doesn't even deseve to be in the NFL
 
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Dec 17, 2010 16:54:15 GMT -5 Moss63 said:Philip Rivers has done nothing significant this year.

Look at his stats.
 
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Dec 17, 2010 16:54:15 GMT -5 Moss63 said:Philip Rivers has done nothing significant this year.

Look at his stats.
 
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Dec 17, 2010 16:54:15 GMT -5 Moss63 said:Philip Rivers has done nothing significant this year.
Maybe you should check the statistics before you make such statements.

Phillip Rivers has been great, he is a great quarterback, but the Chargers haven't been doing as good as the Patriots or Eagles, which really keeps him away from the light of MVP candidates.
 
You really like Vick?

He's a horrible guy.
 
Vick won't win it. Its between Brady and Philip Rivers. Both are putting up great numbers, but likely will go to Brady, because he is more valuable to the Patriots.
 
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Dec 17, 2010 16:36:58 GMT -5 Moss63 said:Well... he doesn't even deseve to be in the NFL

Yeah, he is good, but I personally think he should have been banned from the NFL. Too late to do that though. I don't like him because of his past actions, I don't understand why so many people forgive him for his past actions, everyone deserves a 2nd chance, but Vick knew what he was doing, he knows the difference between right and wrong, he made a mistake, yeah, whatever. He was doing something bad and got caught. That's exactly what happened. :P
 
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Dec 17, 2010 16:54:15 GMT -5 Moss63 said:Philip Rivers has done nothing significant this year.
Maybe you should check the statistics before you make such statements.

Phillip Rivers has been great, he is a great quarterback, but the Chargers haven't been doing as good as the Patriots or Eagles, which really keeps him away from the light of MVP candidates.
 
Vick deserved the second chance, he's pushing for another dog, and when he gets it, I hope it proves to you that he is a good guy now.
 
//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/defaultavatar.pngDec 17, 2010 17:03:03 GMT -5 Elijah said:Vick deserved the second chance, he's pushing for another dog, and when he gets it, I hope it proves to you that he is a good guy now.

It's all in the media.
He probably hates dogs. :P
 
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Dec 17, 2010 16:54:15 GMT -5 Moss63 said:Philip Rivers has done nothing significant this year.

I laughed when I saw this.

I think if the Chargers make the playoffs Rivers has a great chance to win MVP.

He's the heart and soul of the Chargers.
 
//storage.proboards.com/2930147/avatar/cnEucbYCBIqxP0zXFVib.pngDec 17, 2010 17:03:59 GMT -5 Cameron said://storage.proboards.com/forum/images/defaultavatar.pngDec 17, 2010 17:03:03 GMT -5 Elijah said:Vick deserved the second chance, he's pushing for another dog, and when he gets it, I hope it proves to you that he is a good guy now.

It's all in the media.
He probably hates dogs. :P He probably does. The only reason he is back in the NFL is that he went around pleading for forgivness.
 
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Dec 17, 2010 17:13:20 GMT -5 Moss63 said://storage.proboards.com/2930147/avatar/cnEucbYCBIqxP0zXFVib.pngDec 17, 2010 17:03:59 GMT -5 Cameron said:

It's all in the media.
He probably hates dogs. :P He probably does. The only reason he is back in the NFL is that he went around pleading for forgivness.he wasn't eaxctly, pleading
 
Personally, I hope Vick wins it. Out of the two I mean. I just hate Tom Brady, so I don't want him winning. xP Actually, I'd like it if Rivers won, the Chargers are my second favorite team.
 
//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/defaultavatar.pngDec 31, 2010 10:47:33 GMT -5 Chriskarate said:
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Dec 17, 2010 22:36:34 GMT -5 Ranger Addict said:Ok with this vick thing...

There are people in the NFL that have actually killed people. Yes what Vick did was despicable but if you are going to let people killers into the NFL what is wrong with dog killers? Dogs are dogs people are people...i think people forget stuff like that sometimes...

My opinion on Vick is that he did something wrong and payed his price for it. I would watch him but i don't think we should let it influence our opinion of his play on the field. I am not a fan at all because he comes off as a jerk to me but just like A-Fraud...i hate him but you can't take away what he has done

You can never ever pay the price for killing dogs.. If it was up to me, I would have the dogs fight him.. and if he is still alive, have him thrown in prison...

And, list the people who have come back to the NFL after killing someone..

Can't remember the guys name now but there was one man who was driving drunk and killed someone. He is still playing. I think that is worse than Vick...
 
Ok with this vick thing...

There are people in the NFL that have actually killed people. Yes what Vick did was despicable but if you are going to let people killers into the NFL what is wrong with dog killers? Dogs are dogs people are people...i think people forget stuff like that sometimes...

My opinion on Vick is that he did something wrong and payed his price for it. I would watch him but i don't think we should let it influence our opinion of his play on the field. I am not a fan at all because he comes off as a jerk to me but just like A-Fraud...i hate him but you can't take away what he has done
 
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Dec 17, 2010 16:54:15 GMT -5 Moss63 said:Philip Rivers has done nothing significant this year.

Why do you say that? Philip Rivers has done a great job this year. He's stats prove it. He's having one of the finest seasons for a QB. Yet you throw out a statement like this. Hey I understand if you don't like the guy but put ill feelings aside and look at it for what it is. That being that Rivers is good QB. But I understand you won't admit that seems most fans look at a super bowl wing to determine if a QB is good or not. What they don't understand is that it takes a "TEAM" to win a super bowl not a QB. A lot of things have to happen for a team to get the Lombardi trophy. Look at the Marino led Dolphins of the 80's and 90's. Great QB but could they get it done? No, because it wasn't that they had a bad QB no it was that things didn't go they're way. A bad throw there a mistake here and your out of the playoffs. The 2000 Baltimore Ravens won in SPITE of they're QB's play. No, it was they're fantastic defense and overall team play that got them over the hump.
 
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