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New York Jets Flight Connections 10/09/25

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Good morning Gang Green Nation!

Allen Lazard and Michael Carter II did not make the trip to London with the rest of the Jets team this week. Carter has a concussion and is unlikely to join the team in London. Lazard will miss the game for personal reasons. These are two starters for the Jets, but them missing the game almost seems like addition by subtraction. Carter and Lazard have been bad this season. Unfortunately for the Jets, it’s not all that likely replacements for the two starters will fare any better. Therein lies the problem. There are no reinforcements on the way to bail the Jets out. The roster stinks. The coaches stink. The scouts stink. The owner reeks. Top to bottom there is precious little to give fans hope for the future.

Eventually these bad times will pass. They always do. It just doesn’t seem likely “eventually” will arrive in the near future. In the meantime we wait. And wait. And bear witness to decades of bad football.

Here are your links to your New York Jets this glorious Thursday in October:

Randy Lange – Aaron Glenn & the Jets in London: ‘Our Total Focus’ Is on ‘How Do We Beat the Broncos’

Jack Bell – In London, Jets QB Justin Fields and Teammates Strengthen Bond

Susanna Weir – LB Jamien Sherwood: ‘It’s About Me Doing My Job Consistently’

Randy Lange – Jets Open Practice Window for LB Ja’Markis Weston

John Pullano – Know Your Foe | Jets-Broncos | Week 6

Rich Cimini – Jets vow to keep battling despite being NFL’s lone winless team

Brian Costello – Aaron Glenn knows Jamien Sherwood can get ‘dialed back’ from Jets struggles

Nick Wojton – New York Jets vs. Denver Broncos: 5 storylines to watch for in Week 6

Nick Wojton – Stock up, stock down following the New York Jets’ 37-22 loss to the Cowboys in Week 5

Lucas Hutcherson – Aaron Glenn hopes London trip gives Jets an opportunity to improve — with fewer distractions

John Vaccaro – Jets Predicted to Make Heisman Favorite Their New Franchise QB in Recent Mock Draft

Charlie Baduini – Aaron Glenn defends Jets quarterback Justin Fields from detractors who say he’s ‘stat padding’

Toran Flores – Jets’ Aaron Glenn announces $44 million WR will miss London game vs Broncos

Charlie Baduini – Jets urged to trade away free agent bust after lackluster start

Joe Pantorno – Jets vs. Broncos Week 6 preview: What to watch for as Gang Green takes on London

Zach Pressnell – Jets Hit Jackpot; Rookie Emerging As New York’s ‘Breakout Player’

Justin Fried – Jets fans furious after team brings back familiar face nobody wanted

Stephen Parello – Jets fans shouldn’t be fooled by Breece Hall’s rushing resurgence

Blair Yusko – Jets star pass rusher struggling as defense sinks to new lows

Justin Fried – Jets get best-case injury news on Jermaine Johnson ahead of Week 6

James Gruter – “Earn Your Keep” – Glenn’s Quote Could Mean Jets Make Changes

Michael Zimmelman – Jets Could Be Interested in Former First-Round Wide Receiver

Ben Strauss – Aaron Glenn announces 2 key Jets players to miss London clash with Broncos

Here are your missed connections from yesterday.

Source: https://www.ganggreennation.com/new-york-jets-news/87770/new-york-jets-flight-connections-10-09-25
 
Jets Reacts Survey Week 6: Is it too early for Aaron Glenn to be on the hot seat?

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Welcome to SB Nation Reacts, a survey of fans across the NFL. Throughout the year we ask questions of the most plugged-in Jets fans and fans across the country. Sign up here to participate in the weekly emailed surveys.

The 2025 season has not been kind to the New York Jets through the first five weeks. The team has started 0-5, and there is unhappiness in the fanbase with the performance of both the team and head coach Aaron Glenn. How uphappy are fans? That’s what we will try to figure out in our survey this week for SB Nation Reacts.

The Jets have looked very sloppy in their five losses. It isn’t just that the team is suffering defeats. It’s that this team has looked like a disorganized and frequently disinterested bunch while losing. Is it too early to start asking questions about Aaron Glenn’s job security? We want to know whether you are ready to put Glenn on the hot seat. Could the coach actually be one and done?

Vote in our poll below, and we will bring you the results later in the week.

Source: https://www.ganggreennation.com/new...o-early-for-aaron-glenn-to-be-on-the-hot-seat
 
Justin Fields questions the value of time-to-pass statistic: Why I agree

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For those of you who don’t know, statistics is a big part of my day job. One could argue that it’s the most important part of my day job.

Because of that, I always think the data behind sports is where some of the juiciest stuff is. One statistic that I’ve always been fascinated by but could never really find the raw data to dive into with any real rigor is time-to-throw. Why? Because I think using the average for this statistic is pretty short-sighted as currently reported, and, as it turns out, New York Jets quarterback Justin Fields agrees.

Justin Fields on how he feels average time to throw is not a "credible" stat: #Jets

"I don't really look at stats if I'm being honest with you. I'm not on social media. My job is to put as many points up on the board, whether that's the least amount of time to throw or that's… pic.twitter.com/HWpWY1ITdE

— Harrison Glaser (@NYJetsTFMedia) October 8, 2025

As said by Fields:

“I don’t really look at stats if I’m being honest with you. I’m not on social media. My job is to put as many points up on the board, whether that’s the least amount of time to throw or that’s the most. I feel like that’s not a good indicator cause you’ve got guys that scramble & then they count that, so pocket passers will have the least time to throw because they scramble the least. I remember one of my years in Chicago they said I had the longest time to throw too, but at the same time I’m scrambling behind the line of scrimmage, so of course they’re gonna count that, so I don’t think that’s a credible stat for the QB position if I’m being honest with you.”

Admittedly, this might sound at face value like a quarterback explaining away why a statistic that reflects poorly on him is bad. It would hardly be the first athlete to do this. However, logically, I think Fields is up the right tree here.

First, scrambling does harm time-to-throw statistics. When he opts to extend to extend a play with his legs, that harms his time-to-throw and when you do that regularly it skews it, even if the team regularly benefits from just like that we see all the time with quarterbacks Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen who are two the best quarterbacks in the league but also rank poorly on this stat. As an example of why that happens, let’s use two worked examples as shown below

  • 10 passes from quarterback A
    • 5 are 2 seconds
    • 3 are 3 seconds
    • 2 are 5 seconds
  • 10 passes from quarterback B
    • 5 are 2 seconds
    • 5 are 3 seconds

In comparing to two based on the raw data, they overlap 80% of the time. The difference is quarterback A had two scrambles to extend plays whereas quarterback B opted to get the ball out instead of scrambling; importantly, you should remember that scrambles can be beneficial for the team but can never benefit time-to-throw as currently reported. Overall though, the distribution is really similar, but the average for A is 2.9 seconds and the average for B is 2.5. For context, a .4 second difference in time-to-throw is the difference between the fastest time to release and the 30th fastest to throw, which hits home on how even breaking the pocket 20% of the time can completely skew this statistic.

And this is where, to me, the statistic chosen is so important. Average is the go-to for time-to-throw, but it doesn’t need to me. You could use the median, which would be the middlepoint and that would reduce the harm of outlier long scrambles; in the above example, you’d see each reported as 2.5. You could use the 80th percentile, which would be the time-to-throw that QBs are at or below 80% of the time; this is similar to what the major league baseball now often reports for batter exit velocity. In the above examples, you’d see each reported as 3. You could even report a confidence interval, which would give you information on the typical range in which quarterbacks release the ball (such as 80% of the time it’s released between 2 and 2.4 seconds); in this option, you could also see which quarterbacks tend to have a tighter range which would suggest greater consistency in their time-to-throw.

Long story short, Fields isn’t wrong in that the current way that time-to-throw is reported does him (and all other quarterbacks who have the athleticism to extend the play from outside the pocket) no justice despite those plays potentially being valuable. Could time-to-throw better account for that? Sure, if adapted in some really simple ways, but until that happens he’s completely justified in saying that this statistic tells us very little about his ability to get the ball out fast when needed.

Source: https://www.ganggreennation.com/gen...e-value-of-time-to-pass-statistic-why-i-agree
 
Sauce Gardner’s reputation precedes him even if his performance has fallen in 2025

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I’ve always thought of playing quarterback as making a series of split-second risk-reward calculations. At its core, throwing a pass amounts to making your best evaluation of the defense, determining the likelihood of success for a given throw based on that evaluation, determining the yield of success if it works, and determining the downsides to failure (with the biggest failure being an interception). Oh, and you have to make all these calculations in like one millisecond, because much more than that and the opportunity has passed. Easy, right?

In situations when you have to process so quickly, you have to rely on your priors, or the things that you already know. An easy prior when facing the New York Jets is that cornerback Sauce Gardner is one of the league’s best and has been for some time. Given that context, a quarterback is probably going to be a bit leery of throwing in his direction, even when he’s struggling like he has been this season according to public datapoints such as PFF grades.

But priors are tough to get over sometimes and despite those struggles, quarterbacks still seem hesitant to challenge Gardner much so far this season.

Which CBs get picked on the most?
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— Doug Analytics (@Doug_Analytics) October 8, 2025

As shown, Gardner is in the bottom right quadrant that is labeled “targeted less, bad defense.” What this means is he’s allowing catches when targeted, but he isn’t being targeted all that much. You will see a similar determination on Denver Bronco cornerback Patrick Surtain, who is also considered one of the league’s best and apparently has experienced similar struggles.

What this means (to me) is that teams and quarterbacks still know that Sauce Gardner is capable of being Sauce Gardner. Even when struggling, Gardner is scary, which is the sign of a truly elite player in my opinion. In the end this reputation allows his struggles to be minimized because teams don’t seem sure if it’s just a mirage.

While Gardner might be skirting on reputation for now, it likely won’t last forever if he doesn’t pick up on his current level of play. If the Jets want to start winning games, then it would be helpful if that pick up happened in short order.

Source: https://www.ganggreennation.com/new...im-even-if-his-performance-has-fallen-in-2025
 
College Football Week 7 Spotlight: QB Ty Simpson vs. Missouri

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How to watch: Sat, 10/11 , 12:30PM/EST – ABC

Ty Simpson enters Alabama’s matchup against Missouri as one of the most intriguing quarterbacks in college football right now. After a rocky start early in his career, Simpson has grown into the steady hand at the heart of Kalen DeBoer’s offense. He’s completing over 75 percent of his passes and has a 13-to-1 touchdown-to-interception ratio over the Tide’s recent win streak. What stands out most is his pocket poise Simpson’s ability to slide, reset, and deliver on time has made Alabama’s passing attack far more dynamic than a year ago. He’s also been a quiet leader, commanding the huddle with confidence and giving Alabama’s offense an identity built on balance and precision.

This week’s test against Missouri will be a chance for Simpson to prove he can keep that rhythm going against a defense that thrives on disruption. The Tigers will bring pressure from multiple angles, but Simpson has excelled at diagnosing blitzes and keeping his eyes downfield. His chemistry with wideouts like Isaiah Horton, Ryan Williams and Germie Bernard has become a difference maker, especially on third downs and red-zone drives where his accuracy shines. What makes Simpson dangerous isn’t just his arm it’s his feel for when to take the checkdown versus when to attack vertically, a skill that’s matured noticeably since early in the season.

For Jets fans watching, Simpson’s growth should raise eyebrows. He’s showing the kind of decision making and composure that translates well to the next level not unlike how a young Zach Wilson once flashed before inconsistency took over. If Simpson keeps trending upward, he could work his way into early round draft conversations, particularly as teams search for efficient, mobile quarterbacks who can thrive in pro style systems. Saturday’s game at Missouri isn’t just another SEC test it’s another step in Simpson’s case to be one of college football’s most complete quarterbacks.

Source: https://www.ganggreennation.com/new...ll-week-7-spotlight-qb-ty-simpson-vs-missouri
 
Jets vs Broncos Game Thread

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It’s week 6 of the NFL season and the New York Jets are in London, England to face the Denver Broncos. Kickoff is scheduled for 9:30 a.m. EDT.

The Jets have opened the 2025 season with five straight losses. The Jets offense has been erratic; sometimes good, sometimes terrible. The Jets defense has been uniformly and historically horrendous, getting the team into early deficits and rarely giving the team a decent chance to win. If the Jets don’t figure some things out on defense it won’t much matter what an undermanned offense is able to eke out on Sundays. Today’s game against the Broncos gives the Jets defense a chance to compete. The Broncos defense has been superb, but the Broncos offense has only been middling, with a strong running game but a subpar passing game. The Jets have had all kinds of problems defending against the pass. Perhaps this Broncos mediocre passing attack presents an opportunity for the Jets defense to begin to turn things around.

The Broncos come into this game with a 3-2 record. They have won two straight games and have given up just 20 points combined on defense in those two games. The Broncos pass defense has been outstanding this season, ranking 2nd in the NFL in passing touchdowns allowed, 4th in net yards per attempt, and 8th in passing yards allowed. Overall the Broncos defense is ranked 5th in the NFL in yards allowed and 2nd in points allowed. They lead the NFL in pressuring the quarterback and in sacks. This defense will present a huge challenge for a Jets offense that has had problems putting points on the board before garbage time this season.

It’s the Jets seeking their first victory of the 2025 season against the Broncos in London today. Enjoy the game everyone.

Source: https://www.ganggreennation.com/game-day-threads/87887/jets-vs-broncos-game-thread
 
Broncos 13 Jets 11: A New Way to Lose

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For the most part, the best teams in the NFL have balance. It’s important to have more than one way to win a game. There will be weeks where your offense is down. In cases like that, it’s important to have a defense that can pick up the slack and carry you to victory. In a game where the defense is struggling, a good offense can win a shootout.

The inverse can also be true. On truly bad teams even when one unit plays surprisingly a surprisingly strong game, the other unit can be weak enough to produce a loss.

It was true in Week 1 when a dazzling Jets offense wasn’t enough to overcome an awful defense. It was again the case yesterday in London as the Jets wasted a stellar defensive effort because the offense couldn’t function on a basic level.

Steve Wilks’ defense had been much-maligned through the first five weeks of the season and rightly so. The Jets defense was a mess. It found some answers in Week 6, though. There were personnel changes. Jermaine Johnson returned from an ankle injury that had kept him out for three games. Malachi Moore and Jarvis Brownlee also took bigger roles. There also seemed to be some changes to philosophy. At least by my eyeball test, it seemed like the Jets took on more of a bend but don’t break approach. Either way, it’s tough to argue with the results. The defense allowed only 13 points and put 2 on the board with a safety forced on an end zone hold (drawn by lighting rod for criticism Micheal Clemons no less).

It didn’t matter because of how bad the Jets offense was. The unit produced only three field goals. All three scoring drives were set up by short fields.

Most of the blame will correctly fall on the shoulders of Justin Fields. It was another distressingly bad performance by the quarterback. Fields completed 9 of 17 passes for only 45 yards. He took an incredible 9 sacks. And while a big sack day typically generates a lot of criticism of the offensive line, it is clear that Fields played a major hand in his own demise.

Per @NextGenStats, the Jets average time to sack today is 5.76 seconds.

Only one team in the league is above 5.5 on the season, and the league average is 4.63 seconds.

— Robert Mays (@robertmays) October 12, 2025

Fields has always flashed some ability to play at a high level through his career. Unfortunately those moments have been too infrequent. They have also been accompanied by low moments that have come too often and have been really low.

When the Jets signed Fields, the hope was that he could be developed to flash the high end stuff on a more frequent basis and reduce the frequency and depth of his bad games.

Unfortunately through six weeks it seems like Fields has regressed. The quarterback he was in Chicago wasn’t good enough, but he is playing at a lower level in New York. His current QBR of 36.4 is significantly lower than the 46.9 he posted in 2023, the year that convinced the Bears to give up on him.

Perhaps most disturbing is how little of an impact Fields is making as a runner. That was supposed to be his strongest trait and at least to some extent make up for his shortcomings as a passer. However, Fields has only 57 rushing yards on 14 attempts over the last two weeks.

The Jets offense has stalled because of Fields’ issues. There are of course other problems. We could discuss the wide receiver room which is perhaps the worst I have ever seen an NFL front office construct. I take Garrett Wilson out of the mix because he was inherited from the previous regime. The rest of the group is comprised of veterans pedestrian career production and a low level prospect whose only plus attribute is speed. Maybe other groups have performed as poorly, but I can’t say I’ve ever seen a team put a group on the field with such a lack of even theoretical upside before.

Patrick Surtain II has been a notoriously difficult matchup for Wilson through his career, and we saw how well the offense functions when Wilson is essentially eliminated. Some of that goes to the receivers.

Make no mistake, though. Most of it goes on Fields.

I’ll also say this. Coaching isn’t helping this team.

I really would like to avoid a scenario where there is a legitimate case to fire Aaron Glenn and this coaching staff after one season. I want Glenn show me something, anything that gives me reason to believe he can fix this team.

A few weeks ago I would have told you there was no chance Glenn would be one and done. Now? Well, I still don’t think it’s likely. However, my confidence keeps dropping every week.

It goes beyond losing. There’s just a lack of professionalism from the coaching staff at the moment. The Jets wasted timeouts before fourth down plays for no reason.

We also must discuss an incomprehensible sequence before the half. The Jets took a major risk running a fake punt on their own side of the field. Had it been stopped, the Broncos would have been in great position for a devastating score right before halftime to go up two scores. Given the state of the Jets’ offense, the game might have been over right there.

The Jets converted. I’ll be honest. I didn’t agree with the fake punt call, but I at least understand the logic of trying to steal an extra possession in a game where the other team is more talented. And sometimes successful trick plays can spark an offense.

What happened? The Jets let the clock run out before even getting to midfield. Garrett Wilson was visibly exasperated by Glenn.

The head coach’s postgame comments didn’t help. Glenn claimed the Jets’ goal was to run out the clock rather than score to keep the ball away from Denver.

What?

You weren’t trying to score in an end of half situation? You took that enormous risk on the fake punt just to play keep away?

We could go on.

The only decision the coaching staff made that I will defend is the call late in the fourth quarter to bypass a 62 yard attempt by Nick Folk on the final drive. I was at the stadium yesterday. I saw Folk warm up. His tries from 57 yards to that end of the field were coming up well short. That kick was beyond his range. This has been talked about a lot online so I feel the need to give the context for that decision.

Beyond that? It’s tough to defend much else this coaching staff does at this point. It’s also tough to defend the quarterback.

It’s tough to win when you are getting such poor performances from your quarterback and head coach.

It can bring a loss even with a surprisingly strong defensive effort.

Source: https://www.ganggreennation.com/general/87945/broncos-13-jets-11-a-new-way-to-lose
 
New York Jets Flight Connections 10/14/25

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Good morning Gang Green Nation!

Garrett Wilson had an MRI on his injured knee yesterday and the Jets breathed a sigh of relief after he reportedly avoided serious injury. Reports suggest Wilson is dealing with a hyperextended knee which is likely to keep him out of action for a few weeks but not anything close to the rest of the season. While this is good news for the Jets, it still leaves a lifeless Jets offense without its only downfield threat for a few games. We’re likely to see some really horrific offensive games until Wilson returns.

Here are your links to your New York Jets this glorious Tuesday in October:

Susanna Weir – HC Aaron Glenn Focused on Laying a Foundation Following Week 6 Loss

Susanna Weir – 3 Takeaways | Defense Provides Spark, Offense Aiming to ‘Go Back to Work’

Jack Bell – Notebook | LB Jamien Sherwood: ‘We Know What We’re Capable Of’

Rich Cimini – Source: Jets’ Garrett Wilson hyperextends knee, to miss time

Rich Cimini – Jets’ Glenn admits Fields took step back, has to play better

Manny Gomez – Boomer Esiason shreds Jets’ Justin Fields and offense: ‘He mentally locked up’

Manny Gomez – ESPN host rips Jets’ Aaron Glenn for looking lost: ‘(He has) no idea what the hell’s happening’

Bridget Hyland – Jets’ Garrett Wilson addresses tense sideline moment with head coach Aaron Glenn

Andy Vasquez – Jets’ Aaron Glenn putting himself in danger zone with decisions that don’t match his message

Zach Braziller – Why Aaron Glenn is still confident in Justin Fields as his Jets QB

Zach Braziller – Aaron Glenn comes clean on bizarre Jets mistake

Nick Wojton – Injury update for New York Jets WR Garrett Wilson

Nick Wojton – Jets coach Aaron Glenn defends QB Justin Fields after poor Broncos game in interesting way

Craig Moffett – Report card: New York Jets lose 13-11 in Week 6 London game vs. Denver Broncos

Sharif Phillips-Keaton – Stock up, stock down following the New York Jets’ 13-11 loss to the Denver Broncos

Alex Smith and Connor Hughes – Sources: Several teams interested in trading for Jets edge rusher Jermaine Johnson

Ben Krimmel – Jets WR Garrett Wilson appears to have avoided serious knee injury: report

Alex Smith – Jets’ Aaron Glenn talks end-of-half ‘mistake,’ provides update on Garrett Wilson’s injury

Adam La Rose – QB Tyrod Taylor Has Support In Jets’ Building

Charlie Baduini – Jets insider provides injury update on star wide receiver Garrett Wilson

Mike Moraitis – Garrett Wilson injury update: Jets star receives bad news after Monday MRI

Charlie Baduini – Jets insider says a ‘growing portion of the locker room’ doesn’t believe in Justin Fields

Matt Sullivan – Jets’ Jermaine Johnson drawing trade interest after 0-6 start

Charlie Baduini – Aaron Glenn reveals Justin Fields’ job security as Jets starting quarterback

Matt Sullivan – Jets’ Justin Fields had the worst passing performance in 27 years

Joe Pantorno – Aaron Glenn, Jets sticking with Justin Fields at QB despite Week 6 stinker

Glenn Naughton – Instagram Posts Suggest Breece Hall Wants a Trade

Stephen Parello – Jets hit historic low as Justin Fields joins Ryan Leaf territory

Mike Luciano – Jets defense proves skeptics wrong after locker room leaders take charge

Justin Fried – Breece Hall trade starting to feel inevitable after latest Instagram post

Michael Zimmelman – Jets Rough Season Gets Worse After Garrett Wilson’s Injury

Anthony Palacios – Breaking: “Several Teams” Inquiring On Possible Jets Blockbuster Trade

Matty Breisch – Jets’ Garrett Wilson avoids serious knee injury, expected to miss time

Yago Antunes – Jets rumors: Teams calling with Jermaine Johnson trade interest

Gerard Angel Samillano – Jets’ Aaron Glenn doubles down on not benching Justin Fields

Rexwell Villas – What Jets’ Garrett Wilson said about Aaron Glenn’s ‘dysfunctional surrender’

Ben Strauss – The mind-blowing Justin Fields stat that highlights his biggest flaw

Here are your missed connections from yesterday.

Source: https://www.ganggreennation.com/new-york-jets-news/87976/new-york-jets-flight-connections-10-14-25
 
Scouting Jets linebacker Mark Robinson

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The Jets recently signed linebacker Mark Robinson off the New England Patriots’ practice squad. Today we break Robinson down in detail.

The 26-year old Robinson is listed at 5’11” and 235 pounds and was a seventh round pick out of Ole Miss in 2022. Brownlee spent his first three seasons with the Pittsburgh Steelers, where he made four starts and was a key contributor on special teams but was released by them at the end of preseason in August.

Background

Robinson began his career at Presbyterian in 2017, as a running back who was not a highly-rated recruit out of high school. He rushed for 332 yards and five touchdowns in his first season, and then transferred to Southeast Missouri State.

After rushing for 364 yards and four scores in 2018, he posted career-highs in 2019 with 582 yards and seven touchdowns. He also caught 14 passes for 62 yards over those two seasons.

In 2020, he transferred to Ole Miss, sitting out the 2020 season under the NCAA transfer rules in place at the time. During that year, the coaching staff convinced a reluctant Robinson to move to linebacker and it proved to be a key moment in his career.

He started nine of the 13 games in 2021 and racked up 92 tackles and three sacks to establish himself as a potential late round pick. Sure enough, the Steelers saw enough in Robinson to select him in the seventh round. Ironically this was with the Jets pick, acquired along with Avery Williamson in a trade.

As a rookie, Robinson made the Steelers roster but was usually a healthy scratch. However, he eventually played in four games and even made two starts, although he only played 44 defensive snaps in total. He ended up with nine tackles.

2023 and 2024 saw him played every game. He made two starts and played 151 defensive snaps in 2023, racking up 30 tackles and one sack. However, in 2024, he barely played on defense and had six tackles in a special teams role.

Robinson failed to make the Steelers’ 2025 roster and was on New England’s practice squad when the Jets signed him in response to the Quincy Williams and Marcelino McCrary-Ball injuries.

Let’s move onto some more in-depth analysis of what Robinson brings to the table as a player, based on extensive research and film study.

Measurables/Athleticism

Robinson is undersized for a full-time linebacker role and has short arms, but he has impressive strength as he racked up 34 bench press reps at his pro day.

The rest of his pro day numbers were around average for the position, including a 4.69 in the 40-yard dash, but he looks to have burst and explosiveness on film.

Usage

Robinson is an off-ball linebacker who played as an inside linebacker in the Steelers’ 3-4 scheme.

Interestingly, he was also practicing to play the fullback position at one stage with the Steelers, although it never happened in a real game. As noted earlier, he used to be a running back.

Run defense

Robinson shows good aggression and discipline in the running game and in his limited playing time at the NFL level, he has put some good run stops on film usually when he is kept clean.

While he was productive at filling or shooting gaps, he also looks good moving laterally or covering ground going sideline to sideline.

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The main negative from Robinson in the running game is that his lack of size can mean he gets stuck on a block or driven out of a play from time to time.

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Coverage skills

Robinson shows some ability to drop into zone coverage and pass off or pick up an assignment, and also has the athleticism to drop back in man coverage. However, he’s not all that comfortable in these situations.

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At the NFL level, he has given up 10 completions on 10 targets, but he was slightly better at 23-for-30 in preseason and 11-for-16 in his final year of college. He hasn’t given up any plays of 25 yards or longer at any level.

While you might expect a player who caught 14 passes in college to have some good ball skills, he hasn’t yet registered an interception or even a pass defensed in college, preseason or regular season action.

Tackling

Robinson is an aggressive and willing tackler who can stop runners in their tracks and obviously likes to hit. He has closing speed and the strength to drag ball carriers down when reaching beyond his frame, in addition to having a knack for forcing fumbles with three in his NFL career so far.

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Technique-wise, his short arms affect his ability to wrap up and he has a tendency to overpursue so missed tackles can be an issue. He had 13 in his one season at Ole Miss and has had several at the NFL level.

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Blitzing

Robinson hasn’t blitzed much during his career, although he had three sacks in his one year at Ole Miss. When he does blitz, his pressure rates tend to be good, as his burst and timing are excellent.

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Special teams

Robinson established himself as a core special teamer with the Steelers and has already been contributing there with the Jets too with a tackle in kick coverage and some nice blocking.

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He has had seven penalties at the NFL level, though, and six of these were either for holding or another kind of blocking infraction.

In kick and punt coverage, he is excellent at getting downfield and takes good angles.

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Physicality

Robinson makes up for his lack of size with tenacity and aggression. He is clearly unafraid to take on bigger blockers.

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As noted before, he likes to hit, and shows a play to the whistle mentality on plays like this one.

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He was suspended for the first half of a game in college due to a targeting penalty, but hasn’t had any personal fouls or coverage penalties in the NFL.

Instincts/Intelligence

Robinson was extremely new to the position when the Steelers picked him up, but he seemed to do a good job of picking up their system, particularly against the run. His experience at running back was perhaps a benefit here.

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He’s less comfortable in coverage, but does seem to handle simple zone responsibilities reasonably well. His general awareness can be lacking at times, though.

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Attitude

Robinson is an enthusiastic character and a popular teammate, and he brings energy and effort out on the field. His willingness to move positions in college, and to get some reps as a fullback with the Steelers show that he has a team-first attitude.

On-field discipline was a minor concern as he was entering the league, but hasn’t been an issue at this level.

Injuries

As noted, Robinson played every game over the past two seasons, so he’s hopefully the kind of durable player you would want to have brought in during an injury crisis. He doesn’t seem to have been affected by injuries so far in his career.

Scheme Fit

It will be a bit of an adjustment for Robinson to transition from the Steelers’ 3-4 into the Jets’ more conventional 4-3 system, but it’s likely he played in a more similar system to the Jets at Ole Miss, who played a 4-3 base but used six defensive backs in subpackages.

While he played a few snaps in his second game as a Jet, this is probably irrelevant, because his main reason for being here is to play special teams.

While he was with the Steelers, Robinson was a teammate of current Jets Justin Fields, Chukwuma Okorafor and Mykal Walker.

Conclusions

The Jets brought in Robinson when it was confirmed that Williams and McCrary-Ball were headed to injured reserve, but it was more likely that he was brought in to replace McCrary-Ball and his role on special teams.

Since that time, the Jets have primarily used Kiko Mauigoa alongside Jamien Sherwood. They could also opt to use Cam Jones or Walker before they turn to Robinson in the event of another injury.

Williams made the trip to London and looked good while working with the training staff so he should be back soon. With any luck that will be the end of the injury crisis at the position, but Robinson is still a good addition who helps out the special teams unit, so he should stick around, at least until McCrary-Ball can return and maybe even beyond that.

Source: https://www.ganggreennation.com/new.../87863/scouting-jets-linebacker-mark-robinson
 
What does Fanduel think of the NY Jets chances of beating the Carolina Panthers?

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It should come as no surprise that the New York Jets are not favored against the Carolina Panthers given that the Jets currently stand as the league’s last winless team. Maybe this week will be the week that the Jets finally find a way to rid at least a little bit of stink from the franchise though. So how likely does Fanduel think that is? I’ve checked their lines to figure that out. (As a reminder, I am not discussing this in order to encourage a bet, but rather because I figure the amount of data and resources at Fanduel’s disposal makes them more qualified to estimate the outcome of games than any of us.)

To start, the Jets are indeed the underdog once again with a money line of +110 (as of Tuesday afternoon at 4:15PM EST). Admittedly, that is about as close to even money as you’re going to get. This reflects an implied likelihood of a Jets victory of 48%. Beyond that, they have the line set at Jets +1.5, meaning they seem to anticipate a field goal deciding this one and it’s really easy for a margin that slim to go the other way on a random bounce here or there.

They also have the over/under set at 42.5, which implies a final score of 22-21 or thereabouts.

In other words, they seem to expect a reasonably even matchup, which feels rare for the Jets right now. For those rooting against the tank, here might be your chance to shine.

Source: https://www.ganggreennation.com/new...jets-chances-of-beating-the-carolina-panthers
 
A deep dive on Justin Fields’ struggles: Why nobody on the Jets can escape blame

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Jets quarterback Justin Fields is in the spotlight this week for all the wrong reasons. The Jets fell to the Broncos 13-11 in London in Week 6. Fields finished the game completing only 9 of 17 passes for 45 yards. He took 9 sacks, which led the Jets to finish the game with -10 passing yards. All three Jets scoring drives were aided by great field position. I could go on. I think you have the gist. It was an ugly performance.

So where does this leave us?

How much of it was actually Fields’ fault?​


You could be the biggest Justin Fields believer in the world. When the team finishes a game with negative net passing yardage, the quarterback has to take a heaping portion of the blame.

Particularly frustrating are the relatively simple throws that Fields missed. Take this one from the final Jets offensive drive.

This is a third and eight from the Denver 44. The game is on the line, and the Jets are trying to get the ball to their best receiver. Garrett Wilson goes into motion, which gets him away from Patrick Surtain II.

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This not only gets Wilson away from one of the league’s best corners. It gives him a free release at the line of scrimmage and a cushion that makes the short out route he’s running impossible to cover.

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This is where Wilson is at the top of Fields’ drop.

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Fields just stares it down, though, and throws late. This is where Wilson is at the point the ball is thrown.

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Wilson runs out of real estate, and the throw leads him too far upfield. It ends up incomplete.

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Despite all of the struggles in the first 59 minutes of the game, the Jets very well might have won the game had Fields hit that pass. It likely would have put the ball into Nick Folk’s range. (On a side note, I was at the game on Sunday. I watched Folk warm up, and kicking to that side of the field, he came up well short trying practice field goals from 57 yards out. So any criticism of Aaron Glenn passing up a 62 yard try after this play is misplaced.) With an on time throw, Wilson might have had enough space to turn it up the field and pick up a big gain. This is just a miss by Fields. Playing quarterback in the NFL is difficult enough without missing the relative layups like this one.

It is important, however, to determine whether the rest of the offense was executing at a high level. Was this the quarterback squandering an otherwise winning effort by the rest of the offense, or was the quarterback part of a broken infrastructure? In this game, I think it is clear it was the latter of the two.

There are plays in which Fields and the rest of the offense must share some of the blame.

Let’s talk about the play which followed the Wilson miss. It’s fourth down now, and the game is on the line. The Broncos are blitzing seven, and off the snap Jonathon Cooper gets around Mason Taylor.

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I have to say I’m not wild about Taylor’s alignment in this situation. He’s flexed out a bit. You know it’s likely the Broncos are coming with an all out blitz in this situation, and Taylor will need to pass protect. Sticking him out there means that the rookie who is still quite raw as a blocker won’t have any help inside or outside.

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You can also see that nobody’s really open at least beyond the sticks on this fourth down play.

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Fields initially escapes Cooper’s pressure but is soon sacked.

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Could Fields have felt the pressure sooner and gotten the ball out quickly to Arian Smith, who appears to be his outlet? Sure. Smith is well short of the sticks and will have a defender bearing down on him. Perhaps he can make that guy miss, though, and run upfield for a first down.

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After Cooper whiffs, would you like to see Fields just throw it up? It’s a low percentage play, but the game is over anyway if the Jets don’t convert. Maybe you hit a miracle pass or draw a pass interference flag.

You would like for Fields to at least give this play some sort of chance rather than take the sack, but let’s be honest. It’s a long shot. This play was virtually finished from the outset for reasons other than Fields.

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That was Denver’s ninth and final sack of the game. Let’s move back now to the first quarter and the initial Denver sack.

It’s second and thirteen, and Fields is back to pass. He’s looking to his right, the tight quarters on the boundary side of the field. There isn’t really anything happening. Garrett Wilson appears to be his primary option. This is a really tight window. I’m not sure it would be well-advised to try and force this ball. It very easily could be coming back as an interception.

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Mason Taylor also isn’t going to be open.

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Fields looks back to his left. It seems like he sees Josh Reynolds.

Reynolds isn’t really open, but he is working back to a soft spot in the defense he sees.

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I think a more seasoned quarterback might see Reynolds breaking to the open spot and wait for him to get there. There’s something about experience that allows you to improvise better even if the play goes a little bit off the original script.

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You can get on Fields for this if you’d like. I personally won’t. I think we know who Fields is at the moment. He’s not a master pocket passer right now. I wouldn’t expect him to make a play like this. We know that one of his current weaknesses is that he tends to hesitate the deeper into his reads he gets like a lot of quarterbacks.

I will get on him for one aspect of this play, though. He has a wide open run lane. If he tucks it and runs, he can gain positive yardage.

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Instead he gives up ground, bounces outside, and is eventually chased down.

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This is one where Fields is probably less to blame than the initial miss to Wilson we discussed but more than the ill-fated fourth down to end the game. It’s not like this was a gimme where his primary read was wide open, but there was an opportunity to turn it into a positive by running it. The more I watch Fields, the more he frustrates me as a runner. He’s obviously very talented when he tucks the ball and runs, but his decision making on when to run can be rather erratic.

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Then there are some plays that just are outright not Fields’ fault.

There isn’t much a quarterback can do when the left tackle protecting his blindside gets beaten this cleanly off the snap as Olu Fashanu was a on critical third down in the fourth quarter.

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Unfortunately the Jets had a situation where both the quarterback and the rest of the offense were both playing poorly. The poor play from the two elements reinforced each other and created a true cycle of doom.

Should Fields be benched?​


I can’t say for sure because a lot of the answer to that question can only be determined by his mental state at the moment.

We’ve seen it a lot with this team. When the quarterback hits a rough patch, and the team loses games things can snowball. The quarterback becomes a lightning rod for criticism in the media and fanbase and completely loses his confidence. He starts making mistakes he wouldn’t otherwise make.

I don’t know where Fields’ head is at the moment. If he’s at the point where he could use a mental break, the Jets should start Tyrod Taylor against the Panthers.

If Fields is still in a relatively good place, though, I would lean in the direction of starting him.

I do believe Fields’ play has been poor enough to make a benching justified. That isn’t the only factor to consider, though. The easiest things in the world to do are to bench the player who isn’t performing and fire the coach of the struggling team/unit.

The question is whether there’s actually an option that will improve the team.

If the biggest complaint about Fields is that he holds the ball for too long and takes too many bad sacks, I’m not sure Tyrod Taylor is the solution.

Some might say, “Anything would be an upgrade on -10 net passing yards.” That treats -10 passing yards as the likely outcome. Say what you will about Fields (and to date he just hasn’t played at a high enough level in his career). That performance against the Broncos is an outlier.

While Fields has not been good enough to hold down a starting job in his career, his performance has typically been better than what we have seen with the Jets. His current QBR of 36.5 is well below even the 46.9 he posted with the Bears in 2023, which was the performance that made Chicago give up on him.

One thing that has been true of Fields through his career is that his lows are very low, but his highs are pretty high. He is not even at 50 career starts, yet he has 11 games where his QBR jumped at least 30 points over the previous game.

The chances are fairly decent that Fields could bounce back with a strong game against the Panthers. Do I have a ton of conviction in that statement? No, thing could remain quite bad, particularly with Garrett Wilson out of the lineup. Still, I am inclined to believe a Fields bounceback much more likely than Taylor engineering a strong game.

Zooming out a bit.​


I think one area of the discussion where the temperature needs to come down a bit in the fanbase is Fields’ contract. The Jets gave Fields a $20 million salary.

To hear it from some corners of the fanbase, you would think this is a franchise-altering deal. In reality, Fields isn’t even making two-fifths of the going rate for a franchise level quarterback. The Jets are paying him the type of money a low end number one receiver might get.

Now to be clear, the Jets are still getting poor value for this deal at this point. Still I don’t think the degree of rage is proportional to the actual impact.

This was the situation. The Jets needed somebody to play quarterback this year, and there weren’t any good options.

They could go with a low end veteran starter with minimal upside like Jameis Winston or Gardner Minshew. The other option was an upside play. You could try to become the next team to find a reclamation project like Sam Darnold. You’d look for a former first round pick with flashes of high end play. Given his ability as a rusher, and one-third of his previous starts resulting in a passer rating of 95 or higher, I would argue that Fields was a reasonable upside play.

The other option was Daniel Jones. Now you could look at Jones’ exceptionally hot start and conclude the Jets chose poorly. That’s fair, but there are a couple of other factors involved. First, they would have had to convince Jones to return to New York, a city full of bad memories for him. I’m not sure that’s what Jones would choose given the option he had to go with the Colts. Infrastructure also matters. The Colts are built better than the Jets are. It’s not clear at all that Jones would be having the same success with the Jets that he is with the Colts. I mean in the preseason, there was buzz about the Jets potentially trading for Alec Pierce to be their number two receiver. Pierce is the number four option in Indianapolis’ passing game (targets per game).

If you want to say the Jets would have been better off saving their money and rolling with Winston…Well you know what? I think you’re right.

I have a feeling, though, that had the Jets gone in the direction of the low upside veteran, we would be getting a lot of complaints about the team not even trying to add a quarterback with upside. That’s how it was in 2017 when the Jets rolled with Josh McCown. (I should know. I was one of the people complaining. Sorry, Josh.)

Maybe you want to argue the Jets should have drafted Jaxson Dart. We can return to that in a couple of years. I’m not ready to go there after two wins as a starting quarterback. Dart is an interesting prospect, but he’s no sure thing at this point.

Maybe it would have been a better move for the Jets to save their money. I will say this, though. After all of the treasure lost in 2023 and 2024 in the team’s futile attempts to buy a Super Bowl around Aaron Rodgers, one of the four smallest veteran quarterback contracts in the league shouldn’t be such a lightning rod for criticism.

About this offense.​


When a team chooses a quarterback with pretty clear and pronounced flaws, I expect that team to do everything in its power to limit those flaws from exposing themselves.

The other day I asked myself a simple question. Despite his clear physical ability and his flashes of high end play, why hasn’t Justin Fields been able to establish himself as a legitimate starting quarterback?

The answers to this are numerous and complex, but two really stuck out in my mind.

  1. The deeper into progressions the defense forces him to get, the more hesitancy he plays with.
  2. He is hesitant to throw the ball to receivers unless he clearly sees them break open.

These are not minor flaws. Nor are they easy to fix.

After all, the top quarterbacks in the league are the ones who can make the complex reads. And windows open and close so quickly in the NFL, that to win from the pocket a quarterback frequently has to throw before a wide receiver is open. This is to say nothing of other tight window throws that need to be made.

Fields will not be a successful quarterback in this league until this improves.

But I must ask one question. What are the Jets doing to help him avoid these weaknesses to the fullest extent possible?

I know this will come off as critical, but the job the Jets did with the wide receiver position this offseason was baffling to me.

If your quarterback has a tough time getting deep into reads and has an aversion to throwing to receivers before they break open, the objective should be to load the offense with receivers who create quick separation.

I fully acknowledge the Jets had very limited resources this offseason. The team robbed Peter’s salary cap space to pay Paul the previous two years in their failed attempt to load up around Aaron Rodgers the previous two seasons. Everything could not be prioritized. The Jets chose to try and fortify their offensive line. I agreed with that strategy.

Still, it’s tough to believe this is what they ended up with at wide receiver. Allen Lazard, Tyler Johnson, and Josh Reynolds all might be good locker room guys. I’m guessing they are. The Jets underwent a youth movement this offseason, and the few veterans who stayed and/or were brought in are considered good influences for young players.

With that said, I’m not sure I see the need for all three of these players. At best, this is a trio of backup level receivers who should only see the field in case of injury. There’s also a plausible case that these guys are really at the level of street free agents who a team decimated by injuries might sign if it needs a veteran capable of learning a playbook quickly.

Entering this season, Reynolds was widely believed to be the number two receiver. This is a guy who had 13 catches for two teams a year ago and was waived in season. Only twice in an eight year career was he even his team’s third leading receiver.

But it goes beyond quality issues. None of Lazard, Johnson, or Reynolds was ever considered a quick separator.

The only other wide receiver the Jets have getting playing time is Arian Smith. Smith is a fourth round rookie. Consensus big boards suggested he was a massive reach at that spot. Consensus big boards are not always right, but we’ve seen little to prove they were wrong about. Smith would likely best be served getting reps on the practice field at this point on the back of the roster, if not the practice squad.

The Jets didn’t have much money to spend on wide receiver this offseason, but they should have been scouring the market looking for value guys with upside capable of separating quickly. They may have lacked every other ability. Maybe the guys the Jets could afford wouldn’t be big, overly fast, or dynamic after the catch. If they could quickly create space, they would have value and at least be a match with what Fields needs.

That brings me to discussing the run game. Part of the idea in bringing Fields in was supposed to be that his ability as a runner could at least to some extent make up for his limitations as a passer.

Fields had almost 11 rushing attempts per game in his best season of 2022. In 2025 he hasn’t run the ball more than 7 times since Week 1.

I also have to say there isn’t a lot of creativity in the way the Jets use Fields as a runner. You get the occasional zone read from the shotgun.

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On this play Fields reads an unblocked defender and either hands the ball to Breece Hall or pulls it and breaks outside depending on how the defenders reacts. This is a fine play and should be utilized, but it’s close the full extent of the Jets’ playbook with Fields as a runner. Against Denver, every non-scramble rushing attempt Fields had was either a zone read or a quarterback sneak.

(Side note. While we’re on the topic of the Jets not properly building an offense around Fields’ skillset, I want to note that the team refuses to use the tush push on short yardage plays. Fields is built for that. But even beyond that, the Jets were one of ten teams to vote against banning it last offseason. Why did they vote to keep it legal if they didn’t plan to take advantage of it with Fields? It really feels at times in this franchise like the right hand isn’t talking to the left.)

Let’s compare this with a couple of run concepts Baltimore has shown with Lamar Jackson. Here you’ve got Zay Flowers running in motion from left to right. The Buffalo defense needs to be aware of a pop pass to him so he draws focus.

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The handoff is then angled to the offense’s right, which draws the defender, and makes it an easy pull and run for Jackson reversing field. This is compared with the Jets fake run up the middle or quarterback pull outside.

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I’ll give you video on this just so you can see how the eye candy of Flowers’ motion and the angle of the handoff get Bills defenders moving in the wrong direction.

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On this play, the option the unblocked guy has to defend is a pitch to wide receiver Zay Flowers.

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Here a fake handoff to a motioning Flowers throws a bunch of Dallas defenders out of position and opens up a lane for Jackson to pick up an easy gain.

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If you want to have Fields at quarterback at this point, you need to lean on the run. To do that, an offense has to be creative in the run game. You can’t run the same basic NFL plays over and over. Defenses are too good and too sophisticated for that. You need to give them a lot of different options to think about and figure out new wrinkles to stress them and force mistakes.

Right now it seems like Tanner Engstrand’s idea of being creative in the run game is putting Max Mitchell on the field as a sixth offensive lineman with Jeremy Ruckert and Mason Taylor in a jumbo package and slam the ball into the line with Breece Hall. (And by the way, one way to jump start a quarterback who is struggling throwing is to pass occasionally out of a formation that makes the defense expect a run.)

On the topic of Breece Hall, it’s tough to believe that he did not have a target in the Week 6 loss to the Broncos. The Jets lack receiver talent anyway, and Hall is dangerous with the ball in space. In a game where the blitz was constantly getting home, and Fields seemed baffled, it defies logic that the Jets didn’t adjust and make screens to Hall a staple of the offense. I know there’s an argument that Fields doesn’t throw screens well. I have to say, in a game where the plays the Jets actually called resulted in -10 net passing yards, the argument that they shouldn’t call a play because Fields might struggle to execute it is a tough one to make.

I want to be clear. Justin Fields has to take the blame for his flaws. You can only blame other people for so long. Fields is in his fifth year in the league with his fourth coaching staff on his third team. At some point his failures are on him.

At the same time, Fields did not fall out of the sky. This Jets coaching staff made him their number one priority this offseason. I don’t understand why you would make Fields such a priority if you weren’t going to build a roster or an offense that builds on what he does well and avoids what he doesn’t.

That’s at the essence of quarterback development.

Even if you’ve disagreed with everything you’ve read so far, I’m about to make a statement you will agree with.

Justin Fields is nowhere near Patrick Mahomes’ level as a quarterback.

Mahomes will go down as an immortal at the position. Even he admitted he didn’t understand how to read defenses when he first started out in the NFL. This was a point where he won the MVP. How did he do it? Well, on that Kansas City team his first two options on a given play were likely to be Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce in some order. The Chiefs also had an exceptionally designed offense that schemed guys open and provided easy big gains on screen and packaged plays. Then there were the moments when Mahomes’ other worldly ability took over.

Slowly Mahomes learned how to run an offense, and turned into the master field general he is today.

If even the immortal Mahomes needed time to acclimate himself in an NFL offense, Fields is going to have some flaws. I have no idea whether Justin can actually overcome them. What I do know is the best path forward is building brick by brick.

Run the plays he can execute, and have him work on the stuff he can’t. Perhaps he slowly by slowly can learn the nuances of progressions and gradually get more comfortable with throwing with anticipation and into tight windows. In the mean time, make sure you have receivers who get open quickly, and put together a diverse run game.

That’s how it should be.

The reality right now for the Jets is much different. Fields isn’t showing improvement. The personnel isn’t what he needs, and the system isn’t suited for him. Nobody can escape blame for that.

For everybody’s sake, things had better change quickly.

Source: https://www.ganggreennation.com/new...ggles-why-nobody-on-the-jets-can-escape-blame
 
Trade rumors have returned for Jets running back Breece Hall

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The sharks tend to circle when a team quickly falls out of playoff contention as the real contenders look to fill holes and beef up weaknesses as they push to make the playoffs. Sigh, wouldn’t it be nice to be on that side of the table for a change?

One player that may be of interest to other teams is running back Breece Hall, who has previously shown the ability to be a game changer in a league where playmakers are always valued. The rumors of the Jets potentially trading Hall have been swirling for months, but this one feels a bit different, as Hall has seemingly instagrammed his support for such a move with a caption reading “Free 20”

#Jets RB Breece Hall posts on Instagram to “Free 20.”

Hall is a hot name on the NFL’s trade circuit.

Talked to a half dozen front office sources late last week for @SNYtv pregame. Their consensus on his value: Fifth round pick, potential for fourth if two teams compete for… pic.twitter.com/H4kYhtEuZz

— Connor Hughes (@Connor_J_Hughes) October 14, 2025

As later detailed by Connor Hughes, his sources are telling him that the price for Breece will likely be a late round pick. A late pick is hardly a fortune but it’s potentially useful to a rebuilding team all the same.

What say you? Should the Jets trade Breece Hall for a 5th?

Source: https://www.ganggreennation.com/new...mor-have-returned-for-runningback-breece-hall
 
TNF: Bengals vs Steelers Game Thread

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Thursday Night Football, Week 7. Tonight we have a clash of AFC North rivals as the Cincinnati Bengals host the Pittsburgh Steelers. This game features a matchup of ex-Jets quarterback Aaron Rodgers against ex-Jets quarterback Joe Flacco.

The 2-4 Cincinnati Bengals got off to a good start this season, winning their first two games against the Cleveland Browns and the Jacksonville Jaguars. Unfortunately they have not won since, reeling from four straight losses. Star quarterback Joe Burrow went down with a season ending injury and the Bengals have collapsed with Jake Browning replacing him. Things got so bad the Bengals traded for ancient Joe Flacco to start at quarterback. Now Flacco and the Bengals try to engineer a turnaround against the first place Pittsburgh Steelers.

The 4-1 Pittsburgh Steelers have sole possession of first place in the AFC North and isn’t close. The Bengals are 2-4 and have sole possession of second place in the division. The Steelers have won three straight games despite never scoring more than 24 points in those games. The Steelers have relied on a stout defense, an offense that has been far from prolific but protects the ball, and a turnover ratio of +7. That formula has worked thus far.

The Steelers have dominated this rivalry, taking 23 of the last 31 games between these two teams. The Bengals have had a little better luck recently, winning four of 10 since they drafted Joe Burrow. With Burrow out this year this one could get ugly for the Bengals.

It’s the Bengals and the Steelers tonight on Thursday Night Football. Enjoy the game everybody.

Source: https://www.ganggreennation.com/game-day-threads/88132/tnf-bengals-vs-steelers-game-thread
 
The Jets should use the fullback more on Breece Hall runs

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Breece Hall’s future with the New York Jets is unclear. He is in the final season of his four year rookie contract. He has become an object of trade deadline speculation, particularly after a cryptic recent post on social media.

On the field, Hall is having his best season since his stellar rookie campaign was cut short by a major knee injury. Hall is on pace for his first 1,000 yard rushing season on a robust 4.7 average per carry. Breece has always been a homerun hitter but has sometimes struggled with play to play consistency. This year, however, he has a 50% success rate as a runner for the first time since that rookie season of 2022.

Hall’s strengths and weaknesses are well-known by now. He has breakaway speed. If he gets the ball in space or the offensive line opens a large hole, he is dangerous. At 217 pounds, he is a big back who can run through arm tackles once he gets a head of steam.

What has held Hall back in terms of consistency? Well obviously he has spent much of his career on offenses with subpar infrastructures. There is one major issue with his game, though, that transcends his circumstances. Breece just isn’t great at reading blocks. He too frequently gets hesitant on plays where he has to make reads. This leads him to some slumps as he leaves yards on the field. Even at his size, playing with hesitancy can make it tough to break tackles.

Good coaching is all about putting players into situations that accentuate their strengths and minimize their weaknesses. With this in mind, the Jets should be looking to get the ball to Breece in space and outside. When he does run the ball between the tackles, it should be all downhill with minimum reads required.

That brings me to my main point.

The Jets entered this season presenting themselves as a smashmouth football team. The fullback is not a staple of many NFL offenses, but it might be a weapon the Jets consider using with Hall. What easier way to get Hall downhill quickly than to have him just follow a lead blocker?

The Jets have used the fullback sparingly with Breece. I count only 7 rushing attempts where the Jets had a two back personnel grouping that involved Hall following a lead blocker into his hole.

The results have been good, though. Hall has 41 yards on those 7 carries. In fact, those 7 carries account for 3 of his 14 runs to date that went for 10+ yards.

To put it another way, Hall has only been led by a fullback on 8% of his rushing attempts, but those account for 21% of his big runs.

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Some of our savvier observers will note that one of these plays resulted in a critical fumble against the Cowboys. That’s a ball security issue, though. The blocking and running aspects of the play were successful.

I also know that 7 rushing attempts isn’t much of a sample size. If the entire basis of my argument was these 7 runs, you could fairly question the conclusion.

My argument is more about Hall’s strengths and weaknesses. Giving him a lead blocker makes the part of the job he struggles with the most easier. Instead of making reads, he just follows the guy in front of him and gets downhill. Those 7 rushing attempts aren’t much, but they are a small amount of proof that this is the type of play he can execute at a high level.

I think we should see more of them for however long Breece remains a member of the Jets.

Source: https://www.ganggreennation.com/new...uld-use-the-fullback-more-on-breece-hall-runs
 
New York Jets Flight Connections 10/17/25

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Good morning Gang Green Nation!

The New York Jets host a Carolina Panthers team on Sunday that may be on the verge of taking off. Over his last 17 games Panthers quarterback Bryce Young has thrown 25 touchdown passes and just 11 interceptions. Young’s emergence as a competent NFL quarterback has coincided with the arrival of undrafted rookie wide receiver Jalen Coker last season and first round rookie wide receiver Tetairoa McMillan this season. The two top Panthers receivers have never played a game together in the NFL, as Coker began this season on the injured reserve list. Coker is expected to play on Sunday, and the combination of two big, athletic receivers in McMillan and Coker could spell trouble for a Jets team with just one good cover guy in Sauce Gardner.

With the Panthers’ passing game possibly breaking out and the Jets’ passing game in shambles, this game, once considered one of the easier games on the Jets schedule, could prove to be anything but.

Here are your links to your New York Jets this glorious Friday in October:

Randy Lange – Austin McNamara, ‘Just Doing My Part,’ Boldly Strides into His Role as Jets Punter

Jack Bell – Jets Rookie WR Arian Smith Ready to Embrace an Opportunity

John Pullano – Stock Report | Edge Jermaine Johnson Returns to Lineup with Prolific Performance

Rich Cimini – Jets QB Justin Fields feels like he’s been ‘too conservative’

Chris Franklin – Ex-NFL player says AFC team could go after Jets star

Bridget Hyland – Ex-NFL QB gives his take on Jets’ Justin Fields struggles: ‘Hasn’t gotten acclimated’

Mark Cannizzaro – Garrett Wilson injury leaves Jets light on options at receiver

Nick Wojton – Jets coach Aaron Glenn explains heavy defense of QB Justin Fields

Nick Wojton – New York Jets vs. Carolina Panthers: 5 storylines to watch for in Week 7

Glenn Naughton – Week 7 Preview: Jets Banged up at WR With Panthers up Next

JetsFix – Three on ST: McNamara, Nwangwu, Smith

Justin Fried – Justin Fields’ latest injury admission might explain his Jets struggles

Justin Fried – Jets rookie quietly put together breakout performance in Week 6

David Latham – Aaron Glenn’s Latest Comments Complicate Breece Hall Trade Talks

Anthony Palacios – “Writing Is On The Wall” – Depleted Jets Could Trade Fifth-Round Bust

Jackson Stone – How Jets’ Justin Fields can be ‘more aggressive’ to fix fatal problem

Here are your missed connections from yesterday.

Source: https://www.ganggreennation.com/new-york-jets-news/88140/new-york-jets-flight-connections-10-17-25
 
Previewing the Jets’ opposition: Carolina Panthers

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The Carolina Panthers improved from a two-win team in 2023 to 5-12 last year and are already 3-3 this season as they look to take the next step. They’ll be looking to head into week eight with a winning record by inflicting another defeat on the winless Jets on Sunday.

The teams last met in the 2021 opener when Sam Darnold overcame Zach Wilson in his NFL debut to get the win over his previous team. Things have changed a lot for both teams since then, though.

Let’s break down the Panthers’ roster going position by position:

Quarterbacks

Bryce Young perhaps hasn’t lived up to his draft status after being the top overall pick in 2023, but he’s progressing each season and is putting up slightly better numbers than last year in 2025.

He is currently 6th in the NFC with 10 touchdown passes but has been under 200 passing yards in all but one of the Panthers’ games so far.

Andy Dalton in in his 3rd year in Carolina, where he has made six starts in the past two seasons as the backup.

Offensive Line

Once again, the Jets are facing a team who been forced into some changes on their offensive line. Center Austin Corbett and pro bowl right guard Robert Hunt began the season as starters but are currently on injured reserve. In addition, Chandler Zavala, who started two games in place of Hunt, is also on injured reserve.

This week, Corbett could potentially be activated as he’s been practicing and was given a questionable designation on Friday. However, left guard Damien Lewis is also questionable after being limited with a biceps injury during the week.

Cade Mays has been starting at center, having also done a decent job as Corbett’s replacement last season when he suffered a season-ending injury in the fifth game. Alongside him, Brady Christiansen has been starting at right guard since Zavala was injured.

Lewis, left tackle Ikem Ekwonu and right tackle Taylor Moton all started last season too, so the continuity is not bad. Ekwonu is making progress after an up and down rookie year that saw him commit 12 penalties and surrender seven sacks. Moton, who is also listed as questionable for Sunday, has spent his whole career with the Panthers since they drafted him in 2017, and he’s their highest paid player this year.

Nick Samac is the next man up at center with Jake Curhan at guard and Yosh Nijman at tackle.

Running Backs

Star running back Chuba Hubbard will return from injury this weekend to form a two-headed monster with Rico Dowdle. The pair each rushed for a thousand yards last year, with Dowdle still in Dallas.

While Hubbard was out, Dowdle had the two best games of his career with 203 yards against Miami and 183 against his old team. He’s averaging 5.8 yards per carry for the season.

Rookie Trevor Etienne, a fourth round pick, hasn’t seen much action but is averaging over five yards per carry. Deejay Dallas rounds out the rotation and can contribute on special teams.

Pass catchers

The Panthers have drafted Tetairoa McMillan and Xavier Legette in the first round in back-to-back seasons to boost their receiver room and give Young some high-upside pass catching options.

The McMillan pick is working out well as the rookie leads them in receiving with 27 catches. Legette, who caught 49 passes last year, is off to a slow start this season.

Hunter Renfrow is their best option out of the slot with Brycen Tremayne and sixth round rookie Jimmy Horn having been available as cover.

The Panthers also have David Moore and Jalen Coker, two players who caught 32 passes each in 2024, on injured reserve. Coker has been practicing this week and is apparently returning for Sunday’s game.

At tight end, Ja’Tavion Sanders is the starter after having caught 33 passes with three touchdowns as a rookie last year. However, Tommy Tremble has been the top producer at tight end this year with 16 receptions as Sanders has missed some time.

Fifth round rookie Mitchell Evans already has two touchdowns off the bench and James Mitchell is also available for depth.

Defensive Line

The Panthers have some talent on their defensive line with Derrick Brown, a 2023 pro bowler, being their highest paid defensive player. While no Panthers player has multiple sacks yet this year, Brown leads them with four quarterback hits.

A’Shawn Robinson is also a solid contributor, who racked up an impressive 80 tackles last season. He was also tied for the team lead with 5.5 sacks last season.

The other starter is Tershawn Wharton, but actually Bobby Brown III has played more than him due to injuries. Wharton is questionable again this week.

Fifth round rookie Cam Jackson, LaBryan Ray and Jaden Crumedy are also on the roster for depth but none of them have played 50 snaps so far this season.

Linebackers

Patrick Jones II and DJ Wonnum are the starters on the edge in the Panthers’ 3-4 system. Wonnum had four sacks last season, making him the only returning Panthers player other than Robinson with more than two. Jones has been ruled out for Sunday.

The starters at inside linebacker are Trevin Wallace and Christian Rozeboom, who currently leads Carolina with 43 tackles. None of the three reserves – Bam Martin-Scott, Maema Njongmeta and ex-Jet Claudin Cherelus – have played any snaps yet this year.

On the outside, the Panthers bolstered their depth on day two of the draft by drafting Nic Scourton in the second round and Princely Umanmielen in the third, so they could get a big chance with Jones out. Thomas Incoom is also on the roster.

Defensive Backs

At cornerback, the Panthers are led by Jaycee Horn and Mike Jackson, who combined for an impressive 30 pass breakups between them last year.

Chau Smith-Wade is their main slot option and had a pick-six earlier in the season. Also on the bench are undrafted rookie Corey Thornton and Akayleb Evans.

At safety, Tre’von Moehrig starts alongside Nick Scott. Moehrig leads the Panthers with five tackles for loss. Lathan Ransom was drafted in the fourth round and has been getting reps as the third safety with Demani Richardson also on the roster.

Special Teams

The Panthers have made a ton of changes to their special teams unit, starting with the kicking game where undrafted rookie Ryan Fitzgerald is now their placekicker and veteran punter Sam Martin was also brought in.

Fitzgerald has only missed one field goal and one extra point so far, and made the game-winner in their last game against Dallas. He’s already shown off his big leg with a successful 57-yarder this year.

Martin is now with his fourth team, having been in Buffalo for the past three season. While he is punting well, the Panthers have given up a ton of return yardage, including an 87-yard Marcus Jones touchdown. In all, opposing teams are averaging a league high 21 yards per punt return and the Panthers have given up more punt return yards than every team apart from the Eagles.

Changes to the coverage personnel have no doubt been a factor in that with Cherelus being one of their few returning contributors. Tremayne appears to be a good find at one gunner spot, with Evans manning the other spot. Incoom has also been producing well in kick coverage.

They haven’t had much success in the return game either. The longest kickoff return this year was a 35-yarder by Etienne and the longest punt return was a 13-yarder by Renfrow. Etienne is listed as the main returner on both kicks and punts with Dallas as the number two, Renfrow is also an option on punts and Dowdle can return kickoffs.

Source: https://www.ganggreennation.com/new...viewing-the-jets-opposition-carolina-panthers
 
Jets vs Panthers Final Score: Pathetic Jets Punked By Panthers

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In the New York Jets’ seventh game of the 2025 season, on a warm, partly cloudy autumn afternoon in East Rutherford, New Jersey, the Jets lost to the Carolina Panthers, 13 – 6.

The first half saw the Jets put up less than 100 yards of offense as they failed to score a first half touchdown for the sixth straight game. At the half the Panthers led 10 – 3. It was a relatively tight game, yet for this Jets offense a seven-point deficit looked mountainous.

The Jets opened the third quarter by giving up a big kickoff return, giving the Panthers great field position on the Jets 49 yard line to open the second half. The Panthers put together a short drive before kicking a short field goal, giving them a 13 – 3 lead early in the second half. For any other team the game was very much still in play. For the Jets, a double digit second half deficit seemed almost insurmountable.

The Jets took over on offense with a new quarterback. Tyrod Taylor replaced Justin Fields. It didn’t make much of a difference, as the Jets were forced to punt.

Late in the third quarter a Tyrod Taylor pass to Josh Reynolds was intercepted in the end zone. When the Panthers offense took the field, Andy Dalton stepped in, taking over for an injured Bryce Young and giving us a fourth quarter between two backup quarterbacks.

The fourth quarter began with the Jets still trailing by 10 points at 13 – 3 and the Panthers with the ball on offense. Neither team scored until halfway through the quarter, when the Jets put together a short drive culminating in a Nick Folk field goal, cutting the Panthers lead to seven points at 13 – 6 with a little more than six minutes left in the game. If the Jets could get a stop on the next Panthers drive they would have a chance to tie the game.

The Jets defense got their stop, the Panthers punted and the Jets had the ball with plenty of time to score a game tying touchdown with more than four minutes left to play. That wisp of hope was quickly extinguished when Tyrod Taylor threw an interception on second down, giving the Panthers great field position at their own 40 yard line.

The Jets defense stepped up again, forcing a three and out and a Panthers punt. The Jets got the ball inside their own 20 yard line with less than three minutes with one last chance to tie the game. Tyrod Taylor was immediately sacked and the Jets faced a third and 10 at their own 14 yard line at the two minute warning. They did not get a first down and punted.

The Panthers proceeded to run the clock out as the Jets never got the ball back on offense. Final score: Panthers 13, Jets 6 as the Jets offense once again was completely inept, giving them no chance to win.

The loss brings the Jets’ record to 0-7 to start the 2025 season. Now the Jets go on the road for a game against the Cleveland Browns next week.

Source: https://www.ganggreennation.com/new...-final-score-pathetic-jets-punked-by-panthers
 
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