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Mel Kiper, Field Yates mock draft lands New York Giants Abdul Carter, QB combo

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ESPN analysts go a full three rounds

Mel Kiper and Field Yates are offering yet another spin on what the New York Giants might do in the 2025 NFL Draft in a newly-released three-round combo mock draft. [Insider only]

Let’s get to the picks and my thoughts on each.

Round 1 (No. 3) — Abdul Carter, edge, Penn State​


Kiper and Yates alternated picks. This is a Yates’ selection. He says:

The second-rated player on my board is just too good for the Giants to bypass, even with the QB concerns. They can wait until Day 2 to address that, especially if they aren’t sold on Colorado’s Shedeur Sanders. The Giants already have a quality edge rush group, but it’d become that much nastier with the addition of Carter, who had 12 sacks in 2024.

Valentine’s View: This, of course, is the pick most analysts have settled on for the Giants at No. 3. The news that Shedeur Sanders will work out privately for the Giants on Thursday has fueled renewed speculation that the Colorado quarterback could be the pick at No. 3 for New York.

If the Giants don’t take Sanders at No. 3, their path to getting a quarterback of the future in this draft becomes more complicated — much more complicated. Still, in a year where Joe Schoen and Brian Daboll are under pressure, getting a player like Carter who can help immediately makes sense. If they want one of the quarterbacks in the next tier, the Giants will just have to figure it out.

Round 2 (No. 34) — Tyler Shough, QB, Louisville​


For background, Sanders went No. 9 to the New Orleans Saints in this scenario, and the Cleveland Browns traded up from No. 33 to No. 29 with the Washington Commanders to keep Jaxson Dart away from the Giants.

This is a Kiper selection. He says:

After going another direction in the first round, the Giants can land an experienced passer with good arm strength. Shough threw 29 touchdown passes last season, and he’d have the opportunity to learn alongside Russell Wilson and Jameis Winston.

Valentine’s View: The other choice here would have been Jalen Milroe. The range of potential outcomes for Milroe are broader than any quarterback in the class. The team that takes him could end up looking brilliant, or foolish.

Here, Kiper gives the Giants a quarterback who may not have the ceiling of Milroe, but is probably a safer bet to be a productive NFL quarterback. For me, Shough’s 2024 tape is second-best among quarterbacks in this class behind Ward. With the age and injury factors included, that doesn’t make him QB2. That does mean I think there is talent, and that he can be a starting NFL quarterback. At what level? Who knows.

One thing about this pick in this spot. It is a Round 2 selection made without giving up other draft assets. In my view, it would not stop the Giants from taking a Round 1 swing at a quarterback in 2026 if they were in position to do so and one they loved was available.

Round 3 (No. 65) — Tate Ratledge, G, Georgia​


This was a Yates’ pick. He says:

No matter who is playing quarterback for the Giants, the protection has to improve. Ratledge has really impressive footwork and toughness.

Valentine’s View: A safe, solid pick at a position of need. Ratledge would likely compete for a starting job as a rookie.

Round 3 (No. 99) — Omarr Norman-Lott, DT, Tennessee​


Another Yates’ pick. He says:

The Giants already have an elite interior presence in Dexter Lawrence II, but they lack a lot of depth. And Norman-Lott could contribute early in the pass rush (9.5 sacks in the past two seasons).

Valentine’s View: This is the right priority. Is Norman-Lott one of the top-tier defensive tackles in the class? Some will say yes. Some will say no. The Giants need young talent at defensive tackle, though, and if Yates felt he was the best player at that position on the board I won’t argue.

Source: https://www.bigblueview.com/2025/4/...w-york-giants-abdul-carter-tyler-shough-combo
 
Could the Giants really part with Kayvon Thibodeaux?

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There is plenty of speculation about the possibility

A recent article from FOX Sports has named Giants edge defender Kayvon Thibodeaux as a possible trade candidate ahead of the 2025 NFL Draft.

In a piece by NFL reporter Ralph Vacchiano, FOX Sports identified one potential trade from each of the 32 NFL teams. Thibodeaux was listed as the New York Giants’ most valuable asset who could potentially be moved if the right offer comes through.

The article notes Thibodeaux’s production since being drafted fifth overall in 2022, including 11.5 sacks during the 2023 season. FOX Sports writes that the linebacker “still hasn’t quite lived up to his potential,” citing the Giants’ potential shift in defensive philosophy under new defensive coordinator Shane Bowen.

Vacchiano points out that Thibodeaux might not be the ideal schematic fit in Bowen’s system, and that could lead to trade interest from teams who see him as a better match in their own formations. The article also adds that edge defenders with proven pass-rush ability tend to have strong value on the trade market, especially around draft time. Vacchiano also hints that the Giants’ interest in outside linebacker prospects—specifically noting multiple meetings with Penn State’s Abdul Carter—could add further context to the speculation.

As of now, there are no reports indicating that the Giants have made Thibodeaux available or are actively exploring a trade. FOX Sports framed the suggestion as speculative, based on team needs, contract situations, and market value entering the draft window. Should the Giants move on from the former first-round pick? Let us know in the comments!

Source: https://www.bigblueview.com/2025/4/15/24408293/new-york-giants-trade-rumors-kayvon-thibodeaux
 
2025 NFL Draft prospect profile - Kenneth Grant, IDL, Michigan

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Could the Giants add another dancing elephant to their defensive line?

The New York Giants have a definite type at defensive tackle. They have always loved to take big defensive tackles who also have rare movement skills.

After all, the Giants are the team that originated the “Planet Theory” of drafting.

Michigan defensive tackle Kenneth Grant fits that theory exceptionally well. At 6-foot-3, 331 pounds, Grant is an absolute rock in the middle of the Michigan defense. His size also belies rare movement skills and burst for the position.

Could he be a future Giant if he happens to slide in the draft?

Prospect: Kenneth Grant (78)
Games Watched: vs. Texas (2024), vs. USC (2024), vs. Minnesota (2024), vs. Illinois (2024)

Measurables​

Kent Lee Platte | RAS.football

Strengths​


Best traits

  • Size
  • Play strength
  • Run defense
  • Short-area quickness
  • Agility

Kenneth Grant is a big, powerful, and surprisingly athletic nose tackle prospect.

Grant has a classic nose tackle build at 6-foot-3, 331 pounds, with 33 ½ inch arms. He’s big, stout, powerful enough to control double teams, and has enough length to get his hands on blockers first. His size, however, belies some really impressive short-area quickness and movement skills.

Grant has a remarkable first first step and explosiveness, and is able to overwhelm blockers with his first two or three steps when attacking an individual gap. He obviously has an effective bull rush, but also has some sophisticated pass rush moves as well. That can make him a real headache for interior blockers and disruptive in the backfield.

And while Grant wasn’t an every-down player for the Wolverines – he was rotated off the field to combat fatigue – he was used on obvious passing downs as well as in short-yardage situations.

Grant plays with great leverage and is able to command and control double teams in the running game. His arm length, hand usage, and quickness all allow him to discard blocks at will and make plays whenever the ball comes near him. He also gives great effort in pursuit, though he might not run many ball carriers down. He does understand how to use his presence to deny cutback lanes and force them back to his teammates.

Weaknesses​


Worst traits

  • Long speed
  • Pass rush

Grant has few, if any, weaknesses in his game.

He does have some slight limitations, mostly relating to his speed over any kind of distance. He has remarkable short-area athleticism for a man his size, but his play speed slows dramatically after a few steps. That limits his range in pursuit as well as his ability to finish his pass rushes.

Grant also has a slight tendency to resort to an arm-over (“swim”) move as a pass rusher, which can expose his sizable torso to blockers and add drag to his rushes.

Game Tape​


(Grant is the Michigan defensive tackle wearing number 78 and yellow sleeves.)

Projection​


Kenneth Grant projects as a starting interior defensive lineman in the NFL, with schematic versatility.

It remains to be seen whether Grant would earn Pro Bowl honors at the NFL level, though that would likely have more to do with how he’s used than his ability. He should be a very good player and could quickly become one of the top nose tackles in the NFL. Grant has the ability to be disruptive behind the line of scrimmage and has real upside as a 1-technique in a penetrating defense. However, he could also be used to control blockers and create opportunities for his teammates. If so, he might not accumulate the stats and highlight reel plays to earn Pro Bowl or All-Pro honors.

But that wouldn’t diminish the impact he can have on a defense – or an offense.

Does he fit the Giants?
Schematically yes, though the value might not align

Final Word: A later first round talent

Source: https://www.bigblueview.com/2025/4/...le-kenneth-grant-idl-michigan-scouting-report
 
QBs Tyler Shough, Jalen Milroe to have private workouts for New York Giants

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News of Shough’s workout follows on the heels of learning Shedeur Sanders will also work out for the Giants

OK, so maybe the New York Giants are just doing a final round of quarterback due diligence ahead of the 2025 NFL Draft.

A day after we learned that Colorado quarterback Shedeur Sanders will have a private workout for the Giants on Thursday, and the resulting “what does it mean?” freakout, we now know that two more quarterbacks will have private workouts for New York.

Louisville quarterback Tyler Shough is one who will have a private workout for the Giants. Jalen Milroe is the other quarterback scheduled to work out privately for the Giants.

Shough’s workout will include a dinner with team officials:


Louisville QB Tyler Shough is wrapping up his 30 visit with the @Seahawks today, and goes to the @Raiders for his last 30 visit tomorrow. He's also one of three QBs doing private workouts for the @Giants this week—he'll have dinner with them Friday and be on the field Saturday.

— Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) April 15, 2025

Shough, the 25-year-old Louisville quarterback who had a seven-year college career thanks to a number of season-ending injuries, is QB4 for Dane Brugler of The Athletic with a Round 2 grade. In his draft guide, Brugler writes:

A one-year starter at Louisville, Shough was productive in head coach Jef Brohm’s quarterback-friendly, spread ofense (play action, spacing concepts, etc.). With one of the most unique college journeys in this class, he played three seasons at Oregon and three at Texas Tech before leading the Cardinals to an 8-4 record in 2024 — the first time in his seven-year college career that he played in more than eight games in a season.

With his drive velocity and body fluidity, Shough can make impressive rip-and-zip throws from a variety of arm slots and is a better athlete than expected, which helps him keep plays alive. His ability to expedite his process when the pocket deteriorates is promising, but he needs to improve his eye discipline to stay in sync with receivers when reading full progressions. Overall, Shough is overaged and needs to cut back on some of the high-risk passing decisions, but he is a gifted thrower with the functional mobility to work of schedule. He has the tools to work his way up a depth chart and make plays once on the field.

Milroe is considered the biggest boom-bust prospect among the top quarterbacks in the class, potentially with the longest learning curve before he is a viable NFL starting quarterback.

He is QB5 for Brugler, who writes:

Milroe is an explosive athlete with the speed to rip of big gains at any moment (20 percent of his 2024 carries resulted in gains of 10 yards or more). As a passer, the ball shoots out of his hand to drive the ball to every level, but he throws with too much heat and needs to develop his changeup. His disjointed mechanics disrupt the rhythm in his drops, which leads to inconsistent accuracy, anticipation and processing. Overall, Milroe is unpolished as a passer, both physically and mentally, but he is a dynamic athlete with a unique blend of speed, arm strength and intelligence, making him an intriguing developmental option for a patient coaching staff.

For what it’s worth, the #Giants had these private QB workouts planned all along, per sources — this isn’t a last-ditch effort. They’re doing full due diligence on this QB class and preparing for all scenarios, including a possible trade back into Round 1 if a QB starts to slide.… https://t.co/3edw3auk8h

— Jordan Schultz (@Schultz_Report) April 15, 2025

The Giants have reportedly already had a workout with Jaxson Dart.


The #Giants also did a workout with Jaxson Dart several weeks back before his Pro Day. Big contingent there as well.

So Dart, Sanders, Milroe and Shough are quarterbacks to watch. The private workout is an essential part of Brian Daboll's quarterback process for the draft.… https://t.co/2wLqJXiv1E

— Jordan Raanan (@JordanRaanan) April 15, 2025

Matt Waldman of the Rookie Scouting Portfolio recently told the ‘Valentine’s Views’ podcast that Milroe could end up being the best quarterback in the class.

“I think if you’re going to look for that upside [of] who might be able to win Super Bowls for you there Jalen Milroe might be that guy,” Waldman said.

Source: https://www.bigblueview.com/2025/4/...e-to-have-private-workout-for-new-york-giants
 
Fantasy Football ‘25: Favorite landing spots for prominent rookies

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A look at some potential 2025 NFL Draft team and player pairings

The 2025 NFL Draft is less than ten days away! How do I know? Well, I looked at a calendar. But also, I did an internet search for “NFL Mock Draft” and the number of results that came back was staggering. Football fans are locked in for the spectacle on the night of April 24, and the two additional days of player selections that follow.

The Final Four and the Masters may have owned the first two April weekends, but now it’s time for the NFL to take over the sports-scape as only it can. Even with what is widely considered to be a mediocre draft class that’s short on blue chippers, get ready to be swept away in the perennial tsunami of NFL draftspeak: Measurables, athletic freaks, character guys, length, lunch pail guys, non-stop motors, road graders, burst, and high football IQs.

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The 2024 NFL Draft was one for the ages

Those who play the dynasty version of fantasy football have been all over the upcoming draft for some time, as rookie drafts will quickly follow the NFL proceedings. But no matter what type of fantasy football you play, the draft is an important piece of the annual offseason puzzle. The 2024 NFL Draft was a bonanza for fantasy in year one and that makes it a bit of an outlier. On a points per game basis (Half PPR), rookies finished as the QB4, QB10, RB18, WR7, WR9, WR20, and TE2 last season, and overall a pretty large number of rookies showed up in fantasy lineups at different points of the season. I don’t expect that kind of bounty this year, but there definitely are some guys who’ll be fantasy-relevant at some point in 2025, as rookies.

Landing spot matters a lot. Today I’m going to try to give you some player-team pairings that I think could be particularly good matches from a fantasy standpoint, in year one (and beyond, but the main focus for today is the 2025 season). Mind you, I think all of the players listed below have a chance to be decent fantasy producers this season regardless of where they land. But I believe the team-player pairings below could be especially rewarding from a fantasy standpoint.

I haven’t paired RB Ashton Jeanty with a team. He’s going to be a coveted pick in fantasy this season wherever he goes, as long as he’s in a position to get volume which should be the case. Las Vegas or Chicago seem to be likely destinations, and either one will work for fantasy in 2025. As for the Colorado unicorn (WR/CB Travis Hunter), I’ll just say this: If you play in an IDP league, don’t be shy, as he might break those leagues if his stats count both ways and his listed position is DB.

OK, let’s get to it.

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Can Harbaugh land Loveland again?

1. TE Colston Loveland (Michigan) to the Chargers.

This one is an easy call, as Jim Harbaugh has already shown a proclivity to go after players who played for him at Michigan, or who he tried to recruit to the Wolverines. The Chargers need to get more weapons for Justin Herbert, and their cupboard is especially bare at tight end. The 6-foot-5, 245-pound Loveland is the consensus TE2 in this class (after Penn State’s Tyler Warren) and it’s very possible that neither one lasts until the Chargers’ turn at pick 22. Despite what we saw from Sam LaPorta and Brock Bowers the past two seasons, I wouldn’t bank on TE1 numbers from Loveland as a rookie, regardless of where he lands. Tight ends traditionally don’t excel as pass catchers right away. Still, this would be an ideal landing spot for him and would be a pick that generates some rookie fantasy buzz.

2. RB Omarion Hampton (North Carolina) to the Broncos.

Like Loveland to L.A., Hampton to the Broncos is one of the more common pairings you’ll see in mock drafts. Denver has a clear need for a No. 1 RB with Javonte Williams having left for Dallas, and Hampton (the consensus No. 2 RB in this class, after Jeanty) figures to come off the board somewhere in the second half of Round 1 (Denver has the 20th pick). We’ve seen what talented running backs can do in a Sean Payton offense, and Hampton is a big, tough runner at 6-foot, 220 pounds, with plenty of speed and a good all-around skillset that suggests he could develop into a three-down back. He hauled in 38 passes last season, and Bo Nix loves him some screen passes.

Hampton led the ACC in rushing, scored 15 rushing TDs, and averaged 5.9 yards per carry in each of the last two seasons, despite a major drop-off for the offense after Drake Maye left UNC for the NFL last season. He also didn’t have a single fumble in three years of college ball. Hampton is an excellent prospect who should have fantasy value as a rookie wherever he lands, but Denver would give him an especially strong chance to get good volume right away, in an ascending offense. That said, there is plenty of good Day-2 depth at the position, so Denver could wait on RB.

3. WR Tetairoa (Tet) McMillan (Arizona) to the Cowboys.

Tet McMillan is that rare combination of size and speed (6-4 219, with a sub-4.50 40 time) that makes NFL scouts drool. He’s projected to come off the board somewhere in the first 20 picks, so Dallas is potentially in play at Pick 12. Finding a legitimate receiving threat opposite CeeDee Lamb has been a need for Dallas for two seasons and counting. Jerry Jones and the Cowboys could go in multiple directions with their first pick, but if McMillan is on the board for them, he’d be very tempting. For fantasy, it would be a nice fit in an extremely pass-happy offense with a prolific passer. McMillan wouldn’t need to step in as the #1 WR in Dallas, but could garner plenty of targets including a lot of red-zone looks. Texas speedster Matthew Golden is also a possibility for Dallas if they do decide to take a wide receiver in Round 1, but I prefer McMillan’s fit in Big D for fantasy.

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A reunion in Houston for Stroud and Egbuka?

4. WR Emeka Egbuka (Ohio State) to the Texans.

It’s very hard to predict how the wide receivers will come off the board in the 2025 NFL Draft. This is a relatively weak, and shallow, wide receiver class as compared to most of the last half-decade or so, which has been a bonanza for freshman receivers. Last year, three WRs went in the first 10 picks, and ten receivers went in the first 37 picks. The numbers could be half of that this April. Not only that, but the top-rated wide receiver in the class might play more as a corner in the NFL. Egbuka is a smooth route-runner who does everything well and benefits from having played a full four years at Ohio State, where he is the all-time receptions leader. He might be the most “pro-ready” wide receiver in this class.

The Texans have Nico Collins and newly added Christian Kirk (who will be 29 in November and has missed 14 games over the last two seasons), but could use more help at the position. Stefon Diggs has moved on and Tank Dell is likely to miss the entire 2025 season as he recovers from a major knee injury suffered in December. In his sophomore year (2022), Egbuka put up a 74-1,151-10 stat line (with a 15.6 YPC average) catching passes from C.J. Stroud, so there’s already familiarity. Stroud needs more weapons in Houston, and while the Texans might be more inclined to go with another position in Round 1 (such as offensive line, a major need) and then addressing wide receiver later in the draft, Egbuka to Houston at pick 25 is certainly possible and late-first to early-second feels like the right range for him. Jacksonville or Las Vegas early in Round 2 are potentially good fits too.

A few other pairings that I think could be especially fun matches for fantasy in 2025 (and in some cases, these players are more likely as Day 2 picks) include Ohio State RB TreVeyon Henderson to any of the Chiefs, Cowboys, Raiders, or Bears, Missouri WR Luther Burden III to the Bills, Jaguars, Packers, or Seahawks, and L.S.U. TE Mason Taylor or Miami TE Elijah Arroyo to the Jaguars or Chargers.

Where are the rookie quarterbacks, you ask? Well, I didn’t list any, and that was by design. The 2024 standout QB class was very unusual, and much stronger and deeper with potential starters than this ho-hum group. You don’t often see rookie QBs producing steady QB1 production, much less more than one at a time like we saw last year. QBs who start right away usually find themselves in less-than-ideal situations to succeed, plus learning the position at the pro level is a daunting and often lengthy process.

If the Steelers end up with Shedeur Sanders then there might be something there right away given the quality of their pass catchers and overall solid foundation, but either way I don’t think you’re going to see any of the QBs in this class doing anything close to what Jayden Daniels or Bo Nix (or even Drake Maye or Caleb Williams) did last season.

That’s it for today. Keep it here for more fantasy-related draft coverage, which I expect you to consume with a non-stop motor.

Source: https://www.bigblueview.com/2025/4/...-favorite-landing-spots-for-prominent-rookies
 
2025 NFL Draft prospect profile - Mike Green, EDGE, Marshall

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Where will Green be drafted?

The class of edge defenders in the 2025 NFL Draft is one of the very best in recent memory.

In some ways it harkens back to the 2010 EDGE class that produced five separate Pro Bowl players, and this year may be even better.

This EDGE class is so deep and talented that it can be difficult to keep all the (potentially) great players in front of mind. That gets even more complicated for players with multiple confounding factors like Mike Green out of Marshall.

Green was dominant for Marshall in 2024, something the NFL likes to see from a small school prospect. He had an incredible 17.0 sacks, 23 tackles for a loss, and 3 forced fumbles last year and followed that up with a great week at the Reese’s Senior Bowl.

However, he has also seemed to slip back below the radar as the process has worn on.

There were allegations of sexual assault at the time of his transfer from Virginia to Marshall in 2023. We can’t evaluate the allegations here on the outside, but the NFL has the resources to do so and concerns could be driving the dip in Green’s draft stock.

How much risk is there with Green, and can the New York Giants afford to take that risk?

Prospect: Mike Green (15)
Games Watched: vs. Virginia Tech (2024), vs. Ohio State (2024), vs. Louisiana (2024)
Red Flags: Sexual assault allegations

Measurables​

Kent Lee Platte | RAS.football

Strengths​


Best traits

  • Competitive toughness
  • Play strength
  • Pass rush
  • Finishing

Mike Green is an athletic, productive, and highly competitive edge defender.

Green has solid size for a modern EDGE in a multiple defense at 6-foot-3, 250 pounds. He primarily played from a two-point stance and was used as both a downhill player and occasionally a coverage player.

He has an impressive first step off the edge, timing the snap well and wasting little energy or motion getting into his pass rush. He accelerates into the backfield well, quickly turning speed into power. Green has truly impressive play strength and plays like a much larger defender.

He’s able to control, torque, or even rag-doll offensive linemen once engaged, and can collapse the end of the line of scrimmage if he’s matched up against a tight end. Green does a good job of placing his hands, consistently seeking inside leverage and getting under blockers’ pads while extending to keep himself clean. He’s primarily a power player and uses a bull-rush as his go-to move, though his arsenal of counters developed over the course of the season. By the end of the year he was mixing in long-arm, spin, chop, rip, and arm-over moves to keep blockers from keying too hard on his power.

That play strength also allows Green to be an effective run defender, as he can control blockers or discard their blocks to make plays on the ball.

Finally, he is a relentless player who gives great effort throughout the play. There were multiple instances of him fighting through multiple blocks or getting caught in traffic and getting up off the ground to make a play with a second effort.

Weaknesses​


Worst traits

  • Misdirection processing
  • Ankle flexibility
  • Arm length

Mike Green is a tenacious pass rusher and has the potential to be a terror off the edge, but is not without flaws in his game.

The two most notable are how he processes misdirection and his lower-body fluidity.

Green has a noticeable hitch in his play speed when faced with a mesh point. He visibly slows and sometimes shows indecision as he processes and tracks the ball. There were multiple instances on tape where he pursued the wrong player on a read-option play. That might be due to discipline in executing his assignment and his aggressiveness as a defender, but it created opportunities for big plays by the offense.

He also shows some stiffness in his lower body, particularly in his ankles. Green has a tendency to play on the edges of his feet when trying to turn a tight corner as a pass rusher. He was able to use strategies such as spin moves or inside moves to compensate, however he struggled to carry speed into the backfield when attempting to win on the outside. That could either lead to too many reps ending on the ground in the NFL, or missed sack opportunities.

Green’s arms may also be short for some teams at 32 inches. That does limit him when trying to take on long-levered blockers directly, but was less of an issue as his hand usage matured over the course of the year.

Green was accused of sexual assault prior to transferring from Virginia to Marshall. Teams will need to do their due diligence with respect to the allegations and his off-field character.

Game Tape​


(Green is the Marshall edge defender wearing number 15 with long pants and short sleeves.)

Projection​


On the field, Mike Green projects as an important edge defender in an active rotation. He would likely start his career as the first EDGE off the bench and a pass rush specialist, but could win a starting job relatively early in his career.

He has concerns in his athletic profile, but nothing that can’t be accounted for with technique and scheme.

The bigger impact on his draft stock will be in his off-field evaluation. How the NFL handles the allegations of sexual assault at Virginia will likely determine his fate on draft day. He has the potential to be a very disruptive defender and an early pick. However, he could see a major slide if the NFL has concerns regarding his character.

Does he fit the Giants?
Yes, pending character concerns.

Final Word: A later Day 1 or very early Day 2 talent

Source: https://www.bigblueview.com/2025/4/...file-mike-green-edge-marshall-scouting-report
 
Giants draft preview: Defensive linemen who could interest New York

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The Giants need young talent at this position

The New York Giants have desperately needed assistance across from Dexter Lawrence since GM Joe Schoen sent Leonard Williams to Seattle. Opposing offenses consistently ran the football at the Giants last season whenever Lawrence needed a breather before his injury. After Lawrence was placed on Injured Reserve, Shane Bowen altered his defense to fix the massive liability created by Lawrence’s departure — the Giants NEED depth on their defensive line.

Schoen signed two veterans this offseason for depth purposes, but I contend that more depth and overall consistency are necessary. The Giants were spoiled for a long time with names like Damon “Snacks” Harrison, Dalvin Tomlinson, B.J. Hill, and Williams. Now, it’s mainly just Dexter Lawrence. Big 97 needs someone to help, to alleviate the burden of consistently dealing with double-teams.

Lawrence is a top-three player at his position. The Giants must try to capitalize on his skill set and find a complement to his immense talent. Maybe Schoen can achieve this on Day 2 of the NFL Draft.



Additions: Roy Robertson-Harris, Jeremiah Ledbetter
Losses: None
Roster: Starters — Dexter Lawrence, Rakeem Nunez-Roches; Reserves —D.J. Davidson, Jordon Riley, Elijah Chatman, Elijah Garcia, Cory Durden, Ross Blacklock, Casey Rogers
Draft need: Starting-caliber defensive lineman/developmental DL depth (Day 2 or Day 3)



I want Derrick Harmon or Kenneth Grant to fall to pick 34 for the Giants, but it seems a bit pie in the sky. For that reason, I did not include them as Day 2 options.

Day 2 options​


Walter Nolen, Ole Miss: Nolen is just 21 years old and started as a three-technique for the Rebels as a former-consensus five-star recruit, one of the top in his recruiting class. Nolen initially attended Texas A&M. He is still raw but possesses an incredibly quick first-step with quality pop in his hands — ideal as a gap-shooting disruptor. Many believe he’ll be a first-round pick, but questions about his decision-making, playing temperament, and overall maturity surround his profile.

Tyleik Williams, Ohio State: Williams possesses an invaluable skill-set to effectively anchor against opposing rushing attacks while using his high football IQ to process offensive intentions. Williams played three-technique in a four-down front; his traits allow him to two-gap or play a gap-and-a-half defense, which can allow coordinators to lighten the box and play more two-high shells (quarters, palms, etc.), which is a part of Shane Bowen’s defense. Williams has serious knockback with good overall play strength and a natural ability to find the vulnerabilities in double-team blocks, effectively splitting them and wrecking havoc. Williams has played at several different weights throughout his career, reportedly ranging from 290-pounds to 360+ pounds; consistency in a specific role would benefit Williams and allow him to follow the necessary diet/work out routine to maximize his abilities. He lacks the ability to consistently threaten offenses as a pass rusher but there’s enough flashes to suggest there’s untapped upside in that area. He’s also not the longest, so he may have to rely on a low center of gravity – which he could keep lower at a more consistent rate – and his play strength/processing to best set him up for success in the trenches. Williams would be a very fun player to pair with Dexter Lawrence on the Giants.

Darius Alexander, Toledo: Alexander is an excellent small-school prospect with violent hands that allow him to quickly shed blocks at the point of attack while doing a fantastic job locating the running back at the line of scrimmage. Alexander is good in pursuit down the line of scrimmage, and his quickness allows him to penetrate easily while slanting. He is efficient with his hands and flashed speed to power as a rusher. He could earn snaps as a third-down rusher and can play across the line of scrimmage. He’s a strong player, albeit his upper-body strength is more of an asset than his lower body. Alexander is a good run defender, but his pad level led to struggles against double teams. Overall, his floor is a quality depth piece with upside to start and have an impact in year one. With the correct coaching in the right scheme, he could develop into a penetrating starter who harasses quarterbacks.

Omar Norman-Lott, Tennessee: Norman-Lott was a situational pass-rusher in a deep Tennessee Volunteer rotation who played with urgency. His variety of pass-rush moves coupled with his quick get-off allowed him to disrupt and penetrate offensive lines across the SEC. There’s no denying Norman-Lott’s physical gifts and what he can offer a team against the pass, but his lack of experience and size against the run makes him either scheme dependent or a developmental player versus the run. Norman-Lott’s high grade isn’t reflective of his ability to stack and shed offensive lineman, rather it’s due to his ability to disrupt and wreak havoc with his immediacy and hand usage. His feet and framing allow him to constantly find the half-man relationship and he packs enough lower-leg drive – with his natural leverage/length – to get underneath offensive linemen and put them on skates. Norman-Lott sets his rushes up well with power and quickly converts to speed/finesse with good overall lower-body flexion to turn tight corners and dip around clean offensive line contact. Overall, Norman-Lott has a wide range of outcomes. I would not be shocked to see a team picking late in the first-round take a risk on this moldable pass-rushing asset, but his run-game portfolio is lacking. He’ll likely be selected somewhere on Day 2. Nevertheless, the best of this player has not been revealed and he could be one difficult pass-rusher to contain at the next level.

Alfred Collins, Texas: Lawrence, plus this 6-foot-6, 332-pound run stuffer with 35-inch arms and massive hands, would lead to a gigantic improvement in the Giants’ rushing defense — I’m sure Bobby Okereke and Micah McFadden would be grateful. Collins has only played more than 400 snaps in a season once in his college career, and it was last season (his fifth). He recorded 38 tackles, 27 of which were STOPS. He was dialed in from a technique and intelligence standpoint as a run defender, but needs to develop as a pass rusher. Still, his presence would help the Giants immensely on the interior.

Day 3 options​


Joshua Farmer, Florida State: One of the bright spots of Florida State’s defense, Farmer is an incredibly dense defensive lineman with elite length and big 10+ inch hands. His raw power and pop on contact shock offensive lineman and allow Farmer to initially win reps in one-on-one situations, when he keeps his hips and hat low. He has a high run defending floor and there’s still a ceiling to be scratched. However, his pass rushing ability is centralized around effort and power – he needs work to refine his moves, and there’s a lower ceiling due to a lack of suddenness/twitch. His arm length and power create a solid foundation for a pass rusher, but the lack of desired athleticism hinders his ability to be a true difference maker as an interior defensive lineman (three-technique), and he doesn’t possess the bend to threaten the edge as a rusher. His best fit is likely as a 3-4 end who can stay low and eat blocks at the point of attack. Still, Farmer is moldable, very physical/competitive, and is reportedly an excellent learner who transformed his body throughout his time on campus. He’s a solid swing early on day three.

Aeneas Peebles, Virginia Tech: Aeneas Peebles is a one-gap penetrating HIGH MOTOR pass rusher with significantly sub-par measurables that may hinder his overall upside. Peebles unlocks an array of pass-rushing moves with above-average overall athletic ability and impressive lateral movement skills for a 282-pound defensive lineman. Peebles aligned all over the defensive front but is best utilized inside the 4i-shade on passing downs, where he can threaten the interior offensive linemen with his short-area skills and active hands. Overall, Peebles is a stout defender who wins with leverage against the run if tasked to anchor but best penetrates forward. Unfortunately, his measurables are tough to overcome, and some teams will leave him off their board.

Yahya Black, Iowa: Black is an excellent – fundamentally sound – run defender who executed his assignments well within Iowa’s defensive structure. His good physicality and length allowed him to lock blockers out and anchor well at the point of attack; he possesses crafty hands to quickly separate while doing an adequate job locating the ball carrier near his gap responsibility. His size and run-defending prowess allow him to operate as a 1T in an EVEN front or an ODD front 4i-T. He’s a valuable asset but lacks the juice and athletic ability to be an impact player in passing situations. He separates well with precise hands but lacks the short-area quickness and twitch to threaten consistently, nor does he stress the pocket consistently with his bull rush. Overall, Black will quickly earn snaps on early downs and make impact plays as a smart run defender who eats space and dictates at the line of scrimmage. The Giants could use a player like him on day three.

Cam Jackson, Florida: Jackson is a good day-three anchor option next to Lawrence — similar to Texas’ Alfred Collins. Jackson is more than just a space occupier who eats double-teams like a famished child devours ice cream on a hot July day in Gainesville. He is, though, a two-gapping run stuffer who had 41 STOPs over the last two seasons. Jackson played his final two seasons at Florida; he started his college career at Memphis. Jackson does not have the same pass-rushing impact as other players on this list, but he would still be a welcome addition to the Giants.

Deone Walker, Kentucky: Deone Walker’s sheer size is incredibly rare even in today’s NFL. George Young’s prototype! Walker moves well with solid agility and feet on the line of scrimmage, and his ability to play nose through 5-technique should appeal to every defensive coordinator in the league. He is an aware run defender who understands how to read blocking schemes and best orient himself to make a play. Sudden down blocks, though, can pose trouble to him, for his inability to anchor his center of gravity when absorbing blocks from the side result in him being rarely moved off his spot. Walker takes on base and double team blocks well with a good overall ability to separate with his violent hands. Walker’s pass-rushing ability was on full display in 2023, but he did take a step back in 2024. He’s a power-based rusher who uses speed/quickness to his advantage. His hands are violent, but could use some precision. Overall, Walker would be a solid developmental addition if available on Day 3. The thought of this ball of clay with Andre Patterson, next to Dexter Lawrence – 700 pounds of interior defensive line — is intriguing for that reason. Patterson could allow him to unlock his upside, which – like him – is massive.

Source: https://www.bigblueview.com/2025/4/...defensive-linemen-who-could-interest-new-york
 
Giants React Survey - What position will the Giants draft first?

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Where will the Giants go with their first pick?

The New York Giants are widely regarded as one of the real wildcards in the 2025 NFL Draft.

Everyone knows that the Giants need a quarterback, however there’s real skepticism that they’ll start their draft with the most important position in sports.

It isn’t impossible — the team may yet work a trade to move around the draft board to fit value and need. However the general feeling is that the Giants will look to another position with their first pick. The two most common names brought up are EDGE Abdul Carter out of Penn State and CB/WR Travis Hunter out of Colorado.

It’s generally expected that the Giants will pick whichever of the two that the Cleveland Browns don’t select.

Of course, it’s also possible (although unlikely) that the Giants could throw everyone a curveball, auction off the “blue chip” player and target a player like Missouri right tackle Armand Membou with their first pick.

So we want to know what Giants’ fans think: Which position will the Giants draft first?

(Note: We used “CB” for simplicity’s sake and because of an early report that the Giants view Travis Hunter as more of a corner than a receiver.)

Of course, it seems highly unlikely that the Giants won’t draft a quarterback at all. John Mara laid down a directive of finding a quarterback of the future, and he probably wasn’t talking about Jameis Winston. It also seems highly unlikely that Joe Schoen and Brian Daboll will go into a career-defining year without trying to find Their Guy.

If we assume that the Tennessee Titans won’t trade the rights to draft Cam Ward to the Giants, which quarterback WILL the G-Men draft?

The current most likely candidates — judging by who they’ve had for “30” visits and had to dinner — are Jaxson Dart, Shedeur Sanders, Jalen Milroe, and Tyler Shough.

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Source: https://www.bigblueview.com/2025/4/...vey-what-position-will-the-giants-draft-first
 
2025 NFL Draft prospect profile - J.T. Tuimoloau, EDGE, Ohio State

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Is Tuimoloau the rare early-round sleeper?

The 2025 NFL Draft is simply stacked with talented edge defenders. So much so that it seems like everywhere you turn there’s another one who would grab headlines in almost any other draft.

Ohio State’s J.T. Tuimoloau, for instance, has prototypical size, is a solid athlete for the position, and was highly productive on a National Championship team. That’s the sort of profile that should be generating national buzz, yet Tuimoloau is barely on the fringes of the conversation.

The New York Giants may not draft an edge defender with their top pick, but could stand to add depth to an already good unit. Could that make Tuimoloau an option if he slips to the second day?

Prospect: J.T. Tuimoloau (44)
Games Watched: vs. Iowa (2024), vs. Oregon (2024), vs. Penn State (2024), vs. Indiana (2024)

Measurables​

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Strengths​


Best traits

  • Play strength
  • Technical savvy
  • Versatility
  • Competitive toughness

J.T. Tuimoloau is a well-rounded and versatile edge defender who can help a defense in a variety of ways.

He sports a prototypical and versatile build at 6-foot-4, 265 pounds, with solid arm length and athletic traits. He doesn’t stand out in any one area, but has solid size, play strength, athleticism, and technique. Tuimoloau is able to play effectively out of a two or three-point stance, and is technically skilled off the edge. He typically times the snap well and has a crisp first step with little wasted energy.

He’s able to mix power, speed, and finesse in his rushes and does a good job of defeating blockers hands before they can gain purchase on him. Furthermore, Tuimoloau understands how to rush with a plan, as well as how to string multiple moves together or set up blockers for counters. While he is primarily a power rusher, he also uses an effective club, rip, swipe, and spin moves to win in a variety of ways and be less predictable for blockers.

Tuimoloau is also a capable run defender, with enough play strength to hold blocks on the edge, as well as the quickness to disengage and make plays on the ball carrier. He’s a reliable tackler who does a good job of getting the ball carrier on the ground, and was a productive TFL and sack producer for OSU.

He’s also capable of dropping into shallow coverage and helping to disguise pressures, though he probably shouldn’t be asked to play coverage regularly.

Weaknesses​


Worst traits

  • Overall athleticism

Tuimoloau has few true weaknesses as an edge defender.

The greatest issue in his profile is that he’s a “good-but-not-great” athlete. While that isn’t a true weakness, he doesn’t quite project to be a dynamic playmaker off the edge. Tuimoloau won’t stress tackles with his speed and agility, nor will he overwhelm them with his strength and power.

He has a diverse toolkit which should help him find answers in a variety of situations, but teams may prefer prospects with more elite athletic traits.

Game Tape​


(Tuimoloau is the Ohio State EDGE wearing number 44 and long sleeves.)

Projection​


T.J. Tuimoloau projects as a rotational edge defender with scheme diversity and the upside to be a starter in the right situation.

He has solid quickness, agility, strength, and size, which should make him a player who teams can feel good about being on the field for any down and distance. He doesn’t quite have the athleticism to be a truly feared rusher, but he’s able to be consistently productive.

Tuimoloau should be able to line up in just about any defensive scheme and be a reliable, productive player. And while he might not have the raw athletic talent to set himself apart in this draft class, he shouldn’t have any problem finding the field in the NFL.

Does he fit the Giants?
Yes, though as more of a rotational piece.

Final Word: A good Day 2 value

Source: https://www.bigblueview.com/2025/4/...j-t-tuimoloau-edge-ohio-state-scouting-report
 
5 non-QB takeaways from New York Giants GM Joe Schoen

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The uniqueness of Travis Hunter, the talent of Abdul Carter, more

Quarterbacks was the big topic in New York Giants GM Joe Schoen’s pre-draft press conference on Wednesday. There were plenty of other topics discussed, though. Here are a few more takeaways.

Travis Hunter is ‘unique’​


If the Giants, as seems likely, pass on selecting a quarterback at No. 3, the Colorado cornerback/wide receiver could be the pick if he gets past the Cleveland Browns at No. 2. It was clear on Wednesday that Schoen sees the value, even if he isn’t certain how the Giants would deploy him.

“Travis is a unique individual,” Schoen said. “He’s fun to watch.

“The ball skills, the route ability, and also the ability to go to the other side and play corner. You just don’t see that very often. A lot of times, if these guys can’t catch or they can’t play receiver, then they get moved to DB. This guy can do it all. He’s also a great kid. It’d be hard to keep him off the field.”

Schoen said he believes Hunter “would be able to do both” at the NFL level.

What would his primary position be if the Giants drafted him? Maybe both.

“We’re in a unique position that we have three good receivers and we like our secondary right now,” Schoen said. “Our situation would be unique. We’d not be afraid to play him on both sides of the ball.”

‘We would find a way’​


There has been concern voiced about how the Giants would deploy Abdul Carter, Kayvon Thibodeaux and Brian Burns if the Giants selected Carter at No. 3. Schoen downplayed that issue.

“We would find a way. It’s no different than with Travis Hunter,” Schoen said. “You got good football players you figure out a way to get them on the field.”

Schoen said “I don’t think so” when asked if there was such a thing as too many pass rushers.

“Everybody watched the Super Bowl, right? They [the Eagles] would rush four the whole game,” Schoen said. “He’s an exciting player to watch. You can’t have enough pass rushers.”

Need or value?​


This Schoen quote could apply to drafting Hunter or Carter, or to the idea of passing on a quarterback if the right one isn’t available.

“If there is a blue chip or generational type talent or something you just can’t pass on, even if you maybe already have starters in that position, you don’t pass on that type of player.

“If you build need-based, that’s where sometimes you can make mistakes. Again, I like to go in [to the draft] so you’re not back in the corner where you have to take a certain position and you can take the best player available.”

Who makes the call?​


Schoen said Wednesday that the upcoming private quarterback workouts “have been in place” and weren’t arranged at the last minute.

The late workouts, though, have led some to wonder if there is still a disagreement in the organization — whether that involves the front office, coaching staff, or ownership — over how the Giants view the quarterbacks in this class.

So, if there is a disagreement who makes the decision? Do they just pass if there isn’t full agreement? Does ownership make the call?

Schoen said there are always “discrepancies” or “respectful debates”, but that the final decision is his to make.

“The ultimate decision falls on me,” he said. “You go through the whole process.

“There are discrepancies in all different rounds, all different positions, in many drafts. Ultimately, the final saying typically goes with the general manager. Ultimately, if there’s a discrepancy and at the end of the day I’m convicted, the decision has to be made.

“That’s how we do it.”

Deep positions​


Other than quarterback, the common belief is that the Giants could use help on both the offensive and defensive lines. What positions in the draft does Schoen see as deep ones that could be taken advantage of?

“I think the D-line group and the edge group for us, the outside backers is a really deep group. I would say running back is a deep group. For corners, there’s some depth in corners,” Schoen said. “Those would be the ones where I think there’s some good depth. There’s some high-end guys in other positions, just maybe not as much depth.”

Source: https://www.bigblueview.com/2025/4/16/24409896/5-non-qb-takeaways-from-new-york-giants-gm-joe-schoen
 
New York Giants GM Joe Schoen knows he might not get his QB in 2025 NFL Draft

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Schoen lays some groundwork for the possibility of having to punt on the position again

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. — New York Giants general manager Joe Schoen dreams of finding a young franchise quarterback for the organization.

“Where we are, yeah,” Schoen said during his pre-draft press conference on Wednesday. “We’d like to have a young franchise quarterback. I think every general manager would. Everybody wants that. The value has to be right or it doesn’t matter if you get that one wrong.

“You just got to get that right. In a position to get the right one at the right time, that’s when you pull the trigger.”

Schoen, with picks 3 and 34 in the first two rounds of the 2025 NFL Draft, is well aware that in a draft with a limited number of potential franchise quarterbacks he might not be able to find that young franchise quarterback.

“If there’s not one or you don’t perceive there to be one or it’s not available when you pick, that’s out of your control,” Schoen said. “We’d love to have one if there’s one available.”

Back in January, co-owner John Mara said that “obviously the number one issue for us going into this offseason is to find our quarterback of the future.”

Neither 37-year-old Russell Wilson or 31-year-old Jameis Winston, free agents signed to handle the position in 2025, are the team’s quarterback of the future. Schoen said that while he wants to put that quarterback of the future in place, Mara’s words don’t make it “mandatory” that it happens in this draft.

“With the signing of those two players, I think we put ourself in a position where I don’t think that’s mandatory or something that our feet are at the fire and we have to do,” Schoen said. “The two guys we signed have played a lot of ball, they’ve got a lot of skins on the wall, and I do think we’ve upgraded that room compared to where it was a year ago.”

Schoen has not selected a quarterback in any of his three drafts as Giants GM. At the NFL Scouting Combine, Schoen said he would not take a quarterback just to check that box. He reiterated that on Wednesday.

“You’re dealing with 31 of our teams and how they see their boards. So, yeah, if the value matches up with what we have on a player,” Schoen said. “If there’s an opportunity to take any position, we’ll do it.

“I’m not going to force it if it’s not the right value, and again, if the board lines up and we’re on the clock and that’s the position that we want to go with, we’ll go with it.”

The Giants, of course, will be hitting the road for private quarterback workouts over the next few days. They will watch Shedeur Sanders of Colorado on Thursday, Jalen Milroe of Alabama on Friday and Tyler Shough of Louisville on Saturday. Along with Jaxson Dart of Ole Miss and probable No. 1 overall pick Cam Ward, those are the quarterbacks likely in play in the top 34 selections.

“We’re going to run out the shot clock here,” Schoen said. “We have until next Thursday. We’re going to continue to keep doing our due diligence. I think a lot of teams around the league are doing the same thing.”

Valentine’s View​


My immediate takeaway is that I don’t think Schoen and the Giants will take Sanders at No. 3. Admittedly, that is what I have believed for a while. In talking about the value needing to match the draft slot and the need to get the pick right, my clear impression was that Schoen doesn’t see Sanders as the right pick in that spot.

The GM also laid the groundwork for the realistic possibility that supply and demand means the Giants might not be able to get the quarterback of the future they seek in next week’s draft.

There are more teams potentially seeking that commodity than there are quarterbacks available. We have to wait eight more days to find out if Schoen and the Giants can get one.

Source: https://www.bigblueview.com/2025/4/...e-schoen-not-mandatory-to-draft-a-quarterback
 
2025 NFL Draft quarterback deep dive: Cam Ward, Miami

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What makes Ward the top quarterback in the country?

There was a debate through the end of the 2024 College Football season and through the first part of the draft process as to who would be the first quarterback selected.

As the process has progressed, Miami’s Cam Ward has separated himself from the pack and established himself as the top quarterback on pretty much every publicly available draft board – and if rumors are to be believed, the NFL’s boards as well.

That’s impressive considering Ward has largely abstained from the draft process. Ward didn’t attend the East West Shrine Game or the Reese’s Senior Bowl, nor did he work out at the 2025 NFL Scouting Combine. Miami’s Pro Day on March 24th was the first time he threw a ball for an audience since the first half of the Pop-Tarts Bowl against Iowa State.

Ward has largely kept his head down over the course of the Draft Process, which is in keeping with his reputation as a fiery, but quiet, competitor.

But while he hasn’t done anything over the course of the draft process to raise his profile, Ward has gained separation nonetheless. That’s largely due to scouts and evaluators going back over his work in 2024 and realizing just how well Ward played last year, as well as how much upside has yet to be tapped.

Now, Cam Ward will likely be the first pick in the draft. Let’s dive into his profile to see what has made him so good.

Background​


Cam Ward is from West Columbia, Texas, and was born on May 25th, 2002. Cam’s mother is a special education teacher and the coach of the girl’s basketball team, while his father is a fuel buyer for a nuclear power plant in the area.

We normally like to go back and look at quarterback prospects’ recruiting profiles. Development and growth is an important part of quarterback evaluation, and this is the area with which we can establish a baseline.

Cam Ward, however, was un-recruited out of high school. He’s a good athlete who had promising size as a high school player, but he wasn’t recruited – at all. That’s because his high school team ran a Wing-T offense and Ward attempted just 276 passes over the course of his entire high school career.

The Wing-T is a very run-heavy scheme that uses two-back sets and formations that are very different from the offenses run at the collegiate and NFL levels. As such, the quarterback rarely throws and there’s almost no drop-back passing game.

With that in mind, and the fact that most offenses are based in pass-heavy concepts like the Air Raid or Spread offense, it isn’t much of a surprise that Ward was a no-star recruit who only received a scholarship offer from Incarnate Word.

He had to learn how to be a passer, and fast. Ward attempted more passes as a freshman at IWU (303) than he did in three years at high school. But in doing so, he won the Jerry Rice award for the Most Outstanding Freshman at the FCS level.

Ward took a significant step forward as a sophomore and the offense fully flowed through him. He attempted 590 passes, raising his completion rate from 60.4 percent to 65.1 percent, and averaging 357.5 yards per game. After that, Ward finally got attention from major programs and transferred to Washington State.

He continued to develop with the Cougars and began to make a name for himself on the national stage. There was some speculation that Ward would declare for the 2024 NFL Draft, with some noting similarities between his game and that of Caleb Williams. Instead, Ward once again entered the transfer portal and landed in Miami.

There, he was named a consensus All-American, first team All-ACC, the ACC Player of The Year. Ward finished fourth in the Heisman Trophy voting, and won the Davey O’Brien award and the Manning Award as the nation’s top quarterback.

Measurables

Kent Lee Platte | RAS.football

Ward has adequate size for the quarterback position – though not exceptional by any means. He’s just under average height for an NFL quarterback at 6-foot-2, while also just over average weight at 223 pounds (average being 6-foot-3, 221 pounds).

As with most of the other top quarterback prospects, Ward hasn’t done any athletic testing. So we don’t have any numbers to quantify his athleticism, but it certainly isn’t a limitation on tape. Quite the contrary, Ward has very good agility and short-area quickness on tape. He uses those traits to elude defenders in the backfield, execute bootleg rollouts, and pick up yards off of scrambles.

As noted above, Ward was a Wing-T quarterback in high school, and he was asked to be a ball carrier some in college. Both Washington State and Miami included read-option plays and designed quarterback runs in their offense. But while Ward executed them well enough, he doesn’t quite have the speed to be a dynamic threat out of the backfield and likely wouldn’t have put down a head-turning 40-yard dash.

Intangibles​


So much of what we focus on with quarterbacks is tangible — things like their height, weight, 40 time, or their ball velocity. However much of what makes a quarterback successful is intangible.

We can’t really measure things like mental processing, football IQ, leadership, or competitiveness, but we can see their effects.

Football IQ and Mental processing

Cam Ward’s Football IQ is an interesting topic.

Neither Washington State nor Miami put a tremendous amount on Ward’s mental plate and ran fairly standard spread offenses. He wasn’t asked to navigate extended progression reads his first year at Washington state, largely sticking to one or two-man reads. The offense evolved a bit in Ward’s second year at Washington State and his helmet began cycling between options down the field – though still largely limited half-field reads.

That largely continued in Miami, though some more sophisticated concepts with longer reads were employed on occasion.

Ward largely executed his offenses well in 2023 and 2024, moving through his reads with few miscommunications or signs of confusion. He was crisp and seems to understand what the offense is trying to accomplish and how the various concepts employed attack the structure of the defense.

If an offense isn’t particularly complex or taxing, the next step beyond looking at the scheme is to see how a quarterback’s intelligence and processing are expressed within the structure of that offense.

And that is where things get interesting with Ward.

The two areas of Ward’s mental game that stand out are his field vision and eye discipline, and he puts them to use with great effect.

It doesn’t take a lot of tape study to understand that Ward is willing to operate out of structure and off-script. He’s a classic gunslinger who hates to give up on a play and is always willing to give his teammates a chance. His athleticism and arm talent (more on that in a bit) enable the physical aspect of that play style, but his field vision is every bit as important.

Ward excels at finding his options down the field, diagnosing the defense, and leading his receivers to open windows. It’s impossible to do that without the ability to locate both the receivers and the relevant defenders as well as anticipate how players will react once the play breaks down.

While Miami’s offense might not have asked Ward to make extended full-field reads on a regular basis, it’s clear from how he operated while scrambling that he is always acutely aware of where all his options are on the field. There were instances in which Ward executed a no-look pass across his body and against the flow of the play to a receiver that the defense lost. Likewise, he’s able to throw with anticipation, leading a receiver in a scramble drill to a patch of open field.

The second aspect of this is that Ward is truly excellent at manipulating defenders with his eyes and body language. Even as far back as his first season at Washington State, Ward understood that the offense was a one-read affair and that defenders in coverage would be using his eyes to lead them to the ball. In response, he would look defenders off, freezing them in indecision and expanding the windows for his receivers.

As Ward’s comfort and confidence as a passer has grown, he’s married his eye discipline with his scrambling ability. He now routinely looks off defenders, adds fakes, or even orients his entire body away from his intended target to move defenders.

The combination of freezing defenders with his eyes and stressing the structure of a defense with his scrambling can make even well-coached defenses shatter.

Leadership and Toughness

As mentioned in his background, Ward’s path to the NFL hasn’t been an easy one. Largely unrecruited and unprepared for a modern passing game by his high school offense, Ward had to work his way onto the national radar before he could transfer from Incarnate Word to Washington State.

The perseverance to go from, essentially, a high school running back who was occasionally asked to throw to the starter for a major program speaks to his competitive toughness. And spinning forward onto the field in 2023 and 2024, we see evidence of that toughness in his play and how he moves on from mistakes.

It doesn’t take much tape study at all to discover that Cam Ward is a gunslinger. Every scouting report on him will highlight the looseness of his game, improvisational skills, and his willingness to take chances. But while that style of play can produce spectacular highs and highlights, the reward always comes with risk.

Ward wasn’t overly prone to turning the ball over – his interception rate of 1.54 percent is solid and about even with Jaxson Dart and Tyler Shough. However, bad plays and missed opportunities are the price of doing business in that way. Ward was also prone to make one truly head-scratching decision in each game, whether that was attacking a coverage window that wasn’t there or throwing into double (or triple) coverage. However, he also bounces back well from his bad plays.

Where some quarterbacks will let their mistakes fester in their mind and snowball over the course of a game, Ward seems to have a terrible short-term memory and is able to set those mistakes aside and overcome the setbacks.

The ultimate evidence of Ward’s mental toughness seems to come when his team is in a hole. Even if Ward himself was the one who put them there, Cam Ward is a bad man when his back is against the wall.

Those are the moments in which he’s at his most vocal with his teammates, lining them up in the pre-snap phase and directing traffic when the play breaks down.

His improvisations don’t always work, and Ward has the toughness and leadership traits to own up to his own shortcomings.

Ward was a primary reason why Washington State lost to UCLA in 2023. He went 19 of 39 for 197 yards, with 1 touchdown and 2 interceptions. After the game, he said,

“At the end of the day, I just didn’t get the ball out. Personally, that’s why I feel like I had to scramble. … So we’re just gonna get back to that next week, get the ball out to the playmakers.”

He added, “Just bad decisions, I would say. Not necessarily on the first [interception]. Just left it inside. Can’t throw an out-ball inside. I threw it with touch, so that’s always gonna be a pick. The second one was just a bad ball by me, bad decision. So I take that on the chest. Those were two reasons, for sure, why we didn’t win this game.”

“You’ll see a different offense from this point forward. We’re going back Monday, watching the film. We’ll go watch film tomorrow. We’re just gonna take this one on the chin, just go play football the rest of the year.”

It wasn’t immediate, but that game did seem to be a turning point for Ward. While Washington State would lose seven of their next eight games, Ward himself was significantly more efficient. He carried that attitude forward into 2024. Ward has long been respected for his “Alpha Dog” mentality. He admits to still carrying a grudge for the lack of attention he received out of high school.

“I carry all of that with me every day,” Ward said. “You’ve got to have something to keep you going. The time you get complacent, that’s the time you can let people pass you by.”

While he doesn’t seem to let mistakes fester during games, he does take the lessons to heart. That might be part of the reason why he was heralded as a leader immediately upon transferring from Washington State to Miami.

Miami coach Mario Cristobal said, “I think he earned trust quickly. And he earned trust in the fact that he’s up there in the office every waking free moment that he has, and he gets there early, and he leaves late. He pulls aside the receivers and the tight ends and he watches film with them. He takes the lineman out to eat, and he spends time with the running backs …

“Trust and confidence is earned,” Cristobal added. “It’s not just given away. What he has done, he has earned — earned — the trust of the people around him because of his time invested and the fact that he’s an alpha. And your quarterback needs to be an alpha.”

Arm Talent​


Cam Ward’s arm talent absolutely leaps off the screen when studying his tape.

He doesn’t have the strongest arm in this draft class, but he has plenty of arm strength to access all areas of the field. He has a remarkably quick release and can generate velocity with ease, allowing him to challenge very tight windows in the short-to-intermediate area of the field. Likewise, he’s able to drive the ball deep down the field, and hit receivers outside in-stride deep down the sideline.

That, however, isn’t what makes Ward’s arm special. There are a lot of players who have strong arms and quick releases. Cam Ward’s arm elasticity, however, is incredibly rare.

He has the ability to attempt passes from seemingly any arm slot sets him apart from the vast majority of quarterbacks. Ward has almost every conceivable arm angle available to him, from over the top to below parallel to the ground. That allows him to attempt passes that other quarterbacks wouldn’t even consider. It also allows significant freedom in Miami’s blocking schemes and creativity in play design.

It isn’t uncommon for blocking schemes to account for free rushers as “the quarterback’s responsibility” on quick passes – essentially, it’s understood that there’s a rusher who will be unblocked so extra manpower can be allocated elsewhere. Ward’s arm elasticity, however, allows him to not just beat the rusher with a quick release, but to throw around him in ways that are utterly unexpected.

Ward is also able to generate significant velocity and throw with good accuracy from almost every arm slot, as well as do so while on the move or otherwise off-platform.

So while other quarterbacks may produce “WOW!” throws, Ward has the ability to produce “WHAT!?” throws that simply boggle the mind.

Ward’s arm strength and elasticity allow him to decouple his throwing motion from his feet to a large extent. However, that’s also a double-edged sword.

While it does allow for some truly incredible throws, Ward’s footwork is still a work in progress. It isn’t bad, per se, however he does have a tendency to get lazy with his footwork in ways that can cause problems for the offense.

Offenses commonly use a quarterback’s footwork in their drop as a timing mechanism, with the steps following a certain tempo and working almost like a metronome for the offense.

Ward, however, relies on his own internal sense of rhythm and timing. At his best, and when he’s in sync with the rest of the offense, Ward’s timing and rhythm can be like a great jazz musician improvising over Giant Steps. When he isn’t in sync, it can be like making Ringo Starr play drums for Funkadelic or Rush – the whole operation fall apart without the metronomic precision.

That dichotomy is likely the reason behind Ward’s highly streaky play.

And with that in mind, his future team will need to accept Ward’s tendency toward improv, while also working with him to build better discretion for when to stay within the structure of the offense.

Athleticism​


Ward is a good athlete at the quarterback position, but not an elite or even great one.

We know from Ward’s background as a Wing-T quarterback in high school that he’s comfortable running and capable of helping the offense with his legs. However, Ward doesn’t have the kind of wheels we might expect from a quarterback who used to be a running back first. He has merely “okay” speed in the open field and can pick up yardage off of scrambles, but doesn’t often outrun defenders at the second and third levels. Instead, he gets what he can, then either angles out of bounds or slides.

He can obviously execute the Read-Option or designed quarterback runs, but probably won’t be a regular part of a team’s rushing attack. Overall, any rushing yardage that Ward accumulates should probably be looked at as a bonus.

That said, Ward is an agile and slippery player in the backfield. He isn’t tall, and therefore doesn’t have a high center of gravity, which allows him to change directions easily. He’s remarkably elusive when scrambling and his tape is littered with examples of him making multiple defenders miss in the backfield. He excels at extending the play and using his athleticism to evade rushers while buying time for his receivers to work open.

That, combined with his ability to freeze defenders with his eyes and body language can allow him to outright shatter the structure of a defense if they lose contain.

Projectable Stats​


The use of stats and analytics is changing how we view and analyze the game of football. However, just because we have masses of data points, doesn’t mean we automatically make better decisions. Data that’s misunderstood or poorly interpreted is the same as no data at all, and distracting noise at worst.

However, there are some stats and advanced analytics that do have predictive value. Some stats, such as sack rate, are “sticky” and can follow quarterbacks from college to the NFL, as well as from team to team.

For our purposes, we’ll be looking at completion percentage, yards per game, sack rate and pressure to sack rate, EPA, and ESPN’s QBR. Each of those stats has a moderately strong to strong correlation coefficient between college and the NFL. None of them are definitive, but they’re another tool that can help provide a backstop to check bias as well as confirm what we did (or didn’t) see on tape. For reference, I’ll be listing their rank among top quarterback prospects in the 2025 quarterback class.

Completion percentage: 67.2 (3rd)
Yards per game: 331.8 (1st)
Sack rate: 4.6 percent (2nd)
Pressure to sack rate: 15.9 percent (2nd)
EPA: 103.2 (1st)
QBR: 88 (1st)

The predictive stats back up the tape study of Ward: He is the top quarterback in this year’s class and had a really excellent season for Miami.

While Ward’s game isn’t terribly efficient, it was undeniably effective. Him dropping back to pass almost always resulted in good things happening for Miami – or at least improved the likelihood of good things happening. He might not have been as accurate as some other members of this year’s draft class, his tendency to produce big plays without taking many sacks or putting the ball in danger (just a 1.54 percent interception rate) was a big reason behind Miami’s success this year.

Taking a step back, we can see Ward’s development arc from a Wing-T running quarterback to a passer reflected in the stats. Over the last three years – at Washington State and Miami – Ward’s accuracy, his yards per attempt and per game have all improved. His EPA and QBR have climbed each year while his sack rate has plummeted.

All in all, the stats suggest that he’ll be successful in the NFL, and the development arc suggests that he still has untapped upside to get even better with continued work.

Interestingly, Ward (as he was in 2024) would have compared well to the heralded 2024 quarterback class as well. It wasn’t much of a surprise that Jayden Daniels [Deep Dive] and Bo Nix [Deep Dive] played as well as they did last year considering how good their “sticky” stats were. As mentioned above, the stats we pay attention to here are largely stable from college to the NFL, and from team to team once in the Pros.

For had this year’s version of Cam Ward been in last year’s class he would have ranked:

Completion percentage: 6th
Yards per game: 1st
Sack rate: 3rd
Pressure to sack rate: 3rd
EPA: 2nd
QBR: 4th

Accuracy aside (and he’s only about two points away from 4th), he is very close to Daniels in Nix, which suggests that Ward could have similar success as a rookie.

Game Tape​

Final Word​


Cam Ward is the top quarterback in the 2025 NFL Draft class, but even saying that doesn’t adequately capture his full profile.

Both the amount that Ward has transformed as a quarterback, and the rate at which he’s done so, over the last five years is truly impressive. To go from a completely un-recruited no-star prospect to the best quarterback in the country has to be unprecedented.

The player that Ward has become is enticing to say the least. He’s most of the traits that NFL teams look for, with good size, a live arm, athleticism, and the ability to throw with accuracy and anticipation. He has the potential to make game-changing throws at any time, and he’s a player with whom your team always has a chance to win.

And yet, there’s still upside and room for improvement. Ward can stand to get more disciplined with his footwork, which will improve his accuracy, and he can continue to cultivate his decision making. His future team shouldn’t seek to dull his edge or dampen the competitive fire – however he’s still learning that sometimes discretion is the better part of valor. Ward did show an increased willingness to check the ball down as the season wore on, but that’s still a work in progress.

Likewise, learning when to stay within the structure of an offense and when to go off-script will only make him that much more dangerous.

Ward might not have the strongest arm in the class, the best accuracy, or be the most dynamic athlete. But he rates as at least “very good” in every category and the sum of his parts is impressive. Likewise, his predictive stats suggest that he could have an immediate impact as a rookie.

He’ll likely be the first overall pick once the draft opens, and we’ll just have to see if Ward has a similar rookie season as C.J. Stroud, Jayden Daniels, or Bo Nix.

Source: https://www.bigblueview.com/2025/4/...back-deep-dive-cam-ward-miami-scouting-report
 
Draft question of the day: Which likely late-round QB would you swing on?

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Even if Giants pass in round 1 odds say they will take a rookie QB

With much of the spotlight on first-round quarterbacks like Shedeur Sanders and Cam Ward, the New York Giants are doing their homework on prospects further down the draft board — and for good reason.

Between the the free-agent additions of Russell Wilson and Jameis Winston, and the return of Tommy DeVito, the quarterback room is crowded, but far from set in stone. General manager Joe Schoen has said there can be value in taking a quarterback later in

Here are multiple quarterbacks projected to go later in the draft that could make sense in Brian Daboll’s system:

Kyle McCord – Syracuse

The Giants hosted McCord — a sign of potential interest. McCord started his college career at Ohio State before transferring to Syracuse, where he absolutely lit it up in 2024. He led all of the FBS in passing yards (4,779), completions (391), and averaged nearly 368 yards per game. Just as impressive: he threw only 12 interceptions on a whopping 592 attempts.

McCord isn’t a flashy runner, but he has enough mobility to operate within Daboll’s offense, and his timing, touch, and anticipation make him a good schematic fit. He’s a rhythm passer who can read a defense and deliver quickly — something New York has lacked in recent years.

Dillon Gabriel – Oregon

One of the most efficient quarterbacks in the 2025 class, Dillon Gabriel quietly put together a dominant season at Oregon, leading the nation in passing yards per game (375.5) and finishing second in both completion percentage (72.9%) and QBR (86.5). A quick, accurate, and poised passer, Gabriel excels at getting the ball out fast and avoiding negative plays, posting a low sack rate (4.5%) and top-tier pressure-to-sack rate (13.9%).

While his sub-six-foot frame and broken clavicle from 2021 might raise durability concerns, Gabriel’s play style and metrics compare favorably to top-tier quarterbacks in both this year’s and last year’s classes. He’s not the biggest name, but if the Giants are willing to bet on traits over size, Gabriel could be a steal later in this draft.

Kurtis Rourke – Indiana

After transferring from Ohio to Indiana, Kurtis Rourke quickly proved he belonged in the Big Ten. He guided the Hoosiers to a playoff-caliber season thanks to consistent, smart quarterback play. Rourke thrives as a classic pocket passer with NFL size, mechanics, and accuracy.

What makes him intriguing is his blend of timing and ball placement. He throws with purpose, often anticipating windows rather than waiting for them to open — a must in a fast-paced NFL offense like Daboll’s. While not a threat to scramble for chunk yards, Rourke moves well within the pocket and can extend plays when necessary.

Think of him as a low-risk, high-IQ quarterback who could become a solid backup with starter upside — and who wouldn’t cost the Giants a premium pick.

Will Howard – Ohio State

He might not get the same media buzz as others, but Will Howard could be a late-round gem. A big, strong quarterback who transferred from Kansas State to Ohio State, Howard brings a physical, confident style to the position.

He’s not afraid to push the ball downfield and has shown he can run when needed — including in goal-line situations. His traits mirror what the Giants had hoped for with Daniel Jones, but Howard comes with a lower draft cost and arguably more grit in high-pressure moments.

If New York bypasses quarterback on the first few days. Howard could be a developmental option to groom behind the veterans already in the room.

Riley Leonard - Notre Dame

Riley Leonard might be flying under the radar as well, but his dual-threat ability and toughness make him a compelling late-round option for the Giants. The Notre Dame quarterback racked up nearly 800 rushing yards this past season to go along with over 2,000 passing yards, showing off his athleticism and ability to make plays in and out of the pocket. While he projects as an early Day 3 pick, his skillset could fit well in Brian Daboll’s system, especially if the Giants want to use his legs to keep defenses honest.

What do you think, Giants fans? Which quarterback would you pick on Day 3?

Source: https://www.bigblueview.com/2025/4/...which-likely-late-round-qb-would-you-swing-on
 
Your daily Giants trivia game, Friday edition

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Think you can figure out which Giants player we’re talking about? You’ll get five clues to figure him out in our new guessing game!

We’re back for another day of the Big Blue View in-5 daily trivia game. Game instructions are at the bottom if you’re new to the game! Feel free to share your results in the comments and feedback in the Google Form.

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The goal of the game is to guess the correct Giants player with the help of up to five clues. We’ll mix in BOTH ACTIVE AND RETIRED PLAYERS. It won’t be easy to figure it out in one or two guesses, but some of you might be able to nail it.

After you correctly guess the player, you can click “Share Results” to share how you did down in the comments and on social media. We won’t go into other details about the game as we’d like your feedback on it. How it plays, what you think of it, the difficulty level, and anything else you can think of that will help us improve this game. You can provide feedback in the comments of this article, or you can fill out this Google Form.

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Big Blue View mailbag: Draft, draft, draft and more draft

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The mail’s here!

Doug Mollin asks: Is there any scenario you can think of where the Giants do not draft a QB this year?

Current odds have us taking Carter at No. 3 and passing on Sanders.

Seems that leaves a lot to chance for getting a QB later — Sanders and Dart should go in the first, Milroe too (or even at No. 33 to the
Browns). Do any of the other QB prospects move the needle enough to take them at No. 34? What is the hit rate on a QB if they wait until No. 65?

They can always try to trade up but that comes with a significant cost in draft capital.

Anyway, is there a path where you see the Giants going Carter then some combination of DT, OG, OT with picks 34, 65, 99? Kick the QB can to 2026?


Ed says: Doug, that is always possible. I learned a long time ago to never say never.

I don’t think it happens that way. I think the Giants will want to bring — at least — a developmental quarterback into the room who could become an upgrade over Tommy DeVito.

As for the hit rate, this is the best information I can give you.



Evan Hanauer asks: Seeing as the draft is the primary focus lately, let’s throw a curveball and ask something else: There are still plenty of FAs available who perhaps should have found homes by now, and we’re still taking visits from some. I know the draft will be a factor, as will UDFAs, cap space, and FA price points, but are there any FAs still available that might intrigue you/the Giants to take a swing at? I, for one, wouldn’t mind us taking a look at Asante Samuel Jr., for example.

Ed says: Evan, I really have not looked at the free agent market lately. I would think that after the draft the Giants would reassess and see if there are still positions they can upgrade. At a quick glance, there isn’t anyone I would really bang the table for as a difference-maker.



James Adams asks: Schoen and Daboll most likely have this season to show their plan is the right plan and the team is improving. Part of that plan is having the right guy at QB. If you are in Schoen’s shoes are you drafting Sanders if he falls in your lap or risking taking BPA and missing out on one of the top three QBs (I feel like Dart most likely won’t make it to us in the second round as Pittsburgh at No. 21 feels about the range that Dart will land requiring a trade up and Cleveland would most certainly take him one pick ahead of us in the 2nd round). Thoughts?

Ed says: James, I keep coming back to the pressure Joe Schoen and Brian Daboll are under to field a better product in 2025, and how Schoen referenced that so often at the Combine. I’m taking the best player on the board at No. 3 who can help achieve the goal of being better this season. Then, I’m still trying to figure out a way to get a potential quarterback of the future.



John Foti asks: Let’s say you had the opportunity to trade back from No. 3 to No. 6. If Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter is available at No. 3 would you do it for either one or is there one you could not pass up taking?

Ed says: John, I am a proponent of trading down and getting extra swings in the draft. In this case, though, there is a clear difference from Carter and Hunter to the other prospects in the draft. I am not trading down and giving that up. I might consider it if the trade down is a couple of spots to still take a quarterback, but I don’t think I want to mess with that in this draft.



Bob Lommel asks: Previously it was stated that Evan Neal would cost more money than Kayvon Thibodeaux. Why?

Ed says: Bob, the question was about whether or not the Giants would pick up the fifth-year option on Neal’s contract. Fifth-year options are based on the average of the top five salaries at a player’s position over the previous five seasons.

Thibodeaux and Neal were both first-round picks in 2022. The fifth-year option for Thibodeaux would cost the Giants $14.751 million, per Over The Cap. The fifth-year option for Neal would cost $16.685 million.



Robert Goodman asks: Do you believe that Jalen Milroe being invited to attend the draft means that he is definitely being drafted in the first round? How would the NFL know this? What do you think is more likely that a team selects him w/ their first round selection or trades back in. Could you see the Giants trading back in to get him? Have you heard that they have great interest in him? It didn’t seem that they [had] many people and none of the top people at this pro day.

Ed says: Robert, if you listen to Todd McShay, Daniel Jeremiah or a handful of other draft insiders you understand that there is a sharing of information between teams and respected insiders. Both sides — teams and media members — are looking for information. You give, you get, everybody benefits.

The NFL is the ultimate insider. If they invited Milroe, they have a pretty good indication that — at worst — he will be selected fairly early in Round 2.

Yes, I can see the Giants trading back into Round 1 for Milroe. I couldn’t tell you right now what their pecking order of quarterbacks is between Milroe, Jaxson Dart and Tyler Shough. It is clear, though, that they have enough interest to continue doing work on all of these guys right up to the end.



Karl Oltz asks: As all us Giants fans know, at the end of last season, John Mara said that finding a QB was their primary focus. We also know that Wilson and Winston are not the long term answer for the Giants.

My question is, does Schoen and Daboll have control over the draft so they can draft who they believe is the best player at No. 3, QB or not, or could they be forced to draft a QB if that is what Mara wants?


Ed says: Karl, I don’t have any inside information on this. I can only go by what I know about Mara and how he has approached Joe Schoen’s tenure as general manager.

I do not believe Mara would dictate to Schoen and Daboll, or overrule what they want to do. Be aware, though, that when it comes to a decision like taking a quarterback at No. 3 overall, ownership is always going to have to give the OK before the team turns in that card.

Mara did not want the Giants to trade Odell Beckham Jr., but he let Dave Gettleman do so. He did not want to lose Saquon Barkley, especially to the Philadelphia Eagles, but he did not put his foot down and stop that from happening. He easily could have.

I don’t doubt that there might be some impatience from ownership for Schoen, who has yet to select a quarterback in his first three drafts, to select a quarterback at some point. That’s why the 34th pick is interesting.



Warren Schuman asks: I have a question about the potential of drafting Travis Hunter. Generally speaking, if you pick a WR 3rd in the draft, you’re expecting a WR1 and all-pro talent. The Giants just got that in Malik Nabers. I think that’s an exciting pair with the potential of being the most dynamic WR duo in football. But I wonder about the egos. WRs tend to be divas and can become distractions if they’re not getting the ball. Is this something a GM/coach would consider in making the selection? And would a GM or coach have a conversation with Nabers to get his feedback gauge his support? I know they may do so with QBs but I haven’t heard that with other positions.

Ed says: Warren, I don’t know why Nabers would have a problem with the Giants drafting Hunter. There are plenty of targets for Ja’Marr Chase and Tee Higgins in Cincinnati. I don’t see Tyreek Hill and Jaylen Waddle complaining about each other in Miami. The Vikings drafted Jordan Addison to play alongside Justin Jefferson.

I don’t know if the Giants view Hunter as a wide receiver first or as a cornerback first. Most analysts seem to think full-time cornerback, part-time receiver is the way to go. Figuring that out is not my problem.

I don’t know why a GM would have to talk to a receiver about adding another receiver.



Dan G. asks: With Carter a real possibility at No. 3, what about moving Kayvon to traditional LB like they did with Kiwanuka? If memory serves, the book on Kayvon was that he was an excellent at speed rush and closing the gap on runners but his pass rush tools were (and maybe remain) pretty green. Feels like a skill set more aligned with open field LB that occasionally blitzes?

Ed says: Dan, I think you are misremembering how the Giants used Mathias Kiwanuka. In those days the Giants were a base 4-3 team. When Kiwanuka wasn’t at defensive end, he was usually stationed at outside linebacker. Once Michael Strahan retired, he was primarily a true 4-3 defensive end.

Kayvon Thibodeaux is an outside linebacker, or edge defender, in a 3-4 base defense. I disagree about Thibodeaux as a rusher. He is a power and effort rusher, not a speed rusher. He is also 260 pounds, when most of your off-ball linebackers now are 20 to 30 pounds lighter than that.

Maybe he could play it, but I don’t know. On the other hand, Carter was an off-ball linebacker who didn’t move to the edge until last season. Using him there at least occasionally is probably not a perfect solution, but there is at least some evidence that he can play it.



Bob Donnelly asks: When two players are being compared we often hear comments regarding their projected floor and ceiling. What is your view on selecting player X vs Y when X has a higher floor but Y has a higher ceiling?

Ed says: Bob, I don’t think there is a blanket “always take the higher ceiling” or “always take the higher floor” answer.

In general, I might lean toward the higher ceiling. For example, I might understand taking the big swing on Jalen Milroe rather than opting for Tyler Shough. The chance of hitting big with Milroe might not be great, but if you do the payoff could be huge.

I guess I would say each case is unique. How much risk can you tolerate? Maybe the high ceiling player is a developmental guy who needs time before he gets on the field, but you need a player who can contribute right now.

I always think it’s easier for a good team to accept risk because if a player doesn’t pan out they can overcome that more easily. If you’re the Eagles and Jalen Carter doesn’t pan out, so what? You move on, and you’re still a really good team. If you’re the Giants and the seventh pick in the draft (I see you Evan Neal) doesn’t pan out, that hurts your build for years.

So, I think it’s case by case.



KWright asks: For the sake of argument, let’s say the Titans agree with many scouts and analysts and decide it wouldn’t be prudent to pass on a “generational” talent and draft Travis Hunter at #1. Then let’s say the Browns follow suit and take Abdul Carter. This leaves the Giants at #3 with the option to draft Cam Ward or likewise pass and take whomever they assess as the best player available. Which direction do you believe the Giants would go?

Ed says: Simple. You run to the podium and select Ward. What other choice would there be? Ward, though, is not getting to pick No. 3. No chance.



Mark P. Lynch asks: It seems that Big Blue nation is overly concerned about the OL. it is almost manic. I think with a healthy year from Thomas and a few tweaks plus a RG the line will be fine. I am more concerned with the DL. I see Lawrence and just a bunch of has beens, never was’s and a bunch of wannabe’s. This draft is supposed to be deep at DL, OL, RB and TE. IF Hunter and Carter weren’t so head and shoulders above everyone else Im would advocate DT Graham at #3. I believe that the Giants need to add to the DL early as possible Walker from KY at 6-7. 340 would look good next to Lawrence. If he is there at #65 I would not hesitate to grab him. Plus maybe someone like Rylie Mills in 5th and beyond. What is your take on the Giants DL.

Ed says: Mark, I’m not going to get into your individual player evaluations. Those are yours and you are welcome to them. Everybody has different players they like and don’t like.

I agree that there is a need on the defensive line, and Joe Schoen understands that. In a deep defensive line class I will be surprised if he doesn’t add to that group somewhere in the first five rounds.

I disagree that the offensive line doesn’t need attention. The Giants did not draft any offensive linemen a year ago? Where is the young, developmental talent that could step in a year from now if Greg Van Roten is gone? Are there young players who could replace Jon Runyan Jr. or Jermaine Eleumunor, who have no guaranteed money beyond this season?

Van Roten is 35. If his play declines this year, who is the right guard? Evan Neal? Jake Kubas? Josh Ezeudu? Do you feel good about any of those options?

The offensive line should be supplemented in EVERY draft. You need more of them than any other position in football, and not continually feeding the pipeline is a mistake. That doesn’t mean you need to use Day 1 or day 2 assets every year, but there should always be at least one developmental offensive lineman in a draft class.



James Stoll asks: I am writing this 8 days before the draft. The consensus at the moment is that the Giants will not take Sanders at # 3 overall. Assuming that is true, the additional consensus seems to be that the Giants have to select a QB in this draft, with most pundits projecting it in Round 2. It is the second consensus assumption I challenge. Statistics tell us that QB’s taken outside the first round have around a 2% chance of being a successful starter in the NFL. In addition, in a situation like what the Giants have now — Wilson & Winston — how are there enough practice reps to begin to develop or even evaluate a so-called developmental QB? In short, in my view, any QB taken in this draft projects at best as a perennial back-up. While I can get on board with a QB selection on Day 3, I can’t see the upside of taking any of the QB candidates on Day 2. How do you see both the likelihood that a QB is taken Day 2 and the wisdom of such a pick?

Ed says: James, there are several different ways this draft could go. Five quarterbacks could go in Round 1, or maybe only two. Jaxson Dart could be a Round 1 pick, and probably will be, but he could be available for the Giants at No. 34. Jalen Milroe could go in Round 1. He could go in Round 3. Tyler Shough could go in Round 1. He could go in Round 4.

As Brian Daboll has said, it’s about how the team — the Giants — feel about the player. Not how anyone else feels about the player.

If there is a quarterback available at 34 that the organization believes in, I am fine with them taking him. I think that is a viable scenario in this draft. If they take a swing on Day 3, fine. The long-term expectation for a Day 3 player would have to be different than for a quarterback taken higher, but at some point Joe Schoen has to put a rookie quarterback on the roster.

As for development, Matt Waldman of the Rookie Scouting Portfolio and I have talked about this a lot over the years. Waldman points out that most development in terms of footwork, throwing mechanics, etc., comes with private coaches during the offseason. For a rookie quarterback during the season it is about adjusting to NFL life, adjusting to the attention, to living on his own, to handling people who want a player’s time — and money. It’s about adjusting to the practice schedule, and the organizational expectations for a quarterback.

It isn’t about practice snaps.



Raymond Dansereau asks: I’m getting comfortable with the idea of selecting from the second tier or QBs, partly because there seems to be a fair agreement on what they are. Chris’s take on Shough, or Milroe, for instance, seems to line up with a consensus on their strengths and weaknesses. Now while there seems to be more variance with someone like Jaxson Dart (I’d like to see a Chis/Nick debate), where there seems like real variance is on Shedeur. Some say his arm is perfectly fine, not a “plus” arm, maybe, but enough to make all the throws; others see his arm as a significant liability. Think Chad Pennington, yes, he could pull it off, but everything else had to be just right, so margin for error (or injury) was small.

Am I right? Just reading too many takes? Is there a stronger than usual gap in what people are saying on Shedeur, and why do you think that is?


Ed says: Raymond, there are a lot of reasons for the variance in opinions on Shedeur Sanders.

First and foremost, I think, is the reality that there isn’t a single physical trait that any scout would call a “plus.” He is an average athlete for the position with an acceptable but not upper echelon arm. His size is acceptable, but he is on the smaller side.

He has a tremendous completion percentage, but is he as accurate as some say? The majority of his throws are within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage. Per Pro Football Focus, Sanders’ average depth of target per throw was 81 yards last season, 134th among quarterbacks.

Here is a chart from The Athletic:



Here is a chart from Pro Foootball Focus:



If you select Sanders in Round 1, you are banking on his decision-making to be pristine, his accuracy to be what the completion percentage says it is, his leadership and his pedigree. Most of that is hard to quantify. Some think Sanders is Joe Burrow. Some think he’s nothing more than an adequate starter.

The other factor is, of course, whether you worry or don’t worry about the potential for his father, Deion Sanders, to create distraction should things not proceed in a manner he approves of.


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