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The chapter of errors, part II: 15 biggest mistakes by the Milwaukee Bucks (2002–2025)

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12. The “savings” that cost dearly: letting go of P.J. Tucker (2021)

On every championship team, there are players whose statistics are not outstanding, but their impact on the game and team spirit is immense. For the 2021 Milwaukee Bucks, P.J. Tucker was such a guy. This tough forward joined the team in the final stretch before that season’s playoffs and became the missing link: he defended like a rabid pitbull (especially his memorable battles with Kevin Durant in the conference semifinals—Durant did score astronomical numbers, but Tucker stayed glued to him, making every contact and the trash-talk miserable), he added charisma to the locker room, and he occasionally stretched the floor with a timely corner-three. In short, he was the heart and claws of the team that won the championship. Fans loved his tenacity; images from the title celebration (Tucker with a cigar and champagne bottle yelling “we dogs!”) went down in Bucks history. It seemed obvious that the club should do everything to keep such a player.

But then came the summer of 2021 and free agency. Tucker was 36, his contract was expiring. Yes, his physical prime was behind him, but his value as a specialist was still enormous. His demands were not excessive—he was looking for a two-year deal. The Bucks, however, did not make him a sensible offer. In fact, they let him walk without a fight as if they decided he had fulfilled his role and could be replaced by a cheaper equivalent. Tucker quickly signed with the Miami Heat for about $15m over 2 years. Meanwhile, Milwaukee settled for additions like Rodney Hood, Semi Ojeleye, and Grayson Allen, each with certain advantages, but none with Tucker’s toughness and experience.

Officially, Bucks GM Jon Horst explained that the financial situation (luxury tax) was difficult. Indeed, if Milwaukee had matched the offer for Tucker, the luxury tax costs would have jumped significantly. From a fan’s perspective at the time, however, it looked like strange cheapness when you have a team at the top. After all, what are savings worth when you’re hunting for more rings? Tucker later openly said in interviews that he felt unwanted by the Bucks—that they didn’t even give him a serious contract proposal. It’s kind of like inviting someone to a royal feast and then telling them to leave through the back door without dessert.

The 2021–22 season brought a brutal confirmation of fears: the Bucks lacked someone like Tucker. In the second round of the playoffs, they faced the Boston Celtics and fought a seven-game war without an important soldier, and worse, without the injured Middleton as well. Defensively, they did alright, but in the crucial Game 7, they lacked the experience and “glue” in the person of Tucker. His successors failed: Ojeleye didn’t pan out at all and was off the team before the playoffs, and Grayson Allen—though he brought a three-point shot—became a target for opponents on defense. The Celtics mercilessly exploited this, running plays at Allen and forcing him to defend Jayson Tatum or Jaylen Brown. One can only wonder what would have happened if Tucker had been on the court in those moments, with his strength, cunning, and mental resilience.

One scene stuck in my mind: Game 7 in Boston, Grant Williams hit seven threes because the Bucks consistently sagged off him, focusing on the stars. If Tucker had been there, he probably would have kicked some ass in the locker room during halftime for such a strategy, or thrown himself at Williams to contest the shot. Without him, there was no defensive leader on the court and no mental leader off it. The Bucks lost the series, and some fans complained: “If P.J. was here, he wouldn’t have let that happen.”

To make matters worse, Tucker showed in Miami that he was still very useful—in the 2021–22 season, he had a career-best three-point shooting percentage (42%), and the Heat reached the Eastern Conference Finals. The Bucks were eliminated one round earlier, fighting bravely, but something was still missing. Of course, Middleton (injury) was the biggest loss, but Tucker’s role was also undeniable.

The decision not to keep P.J. Tucker is a “penny-wise, pound-foolish” mistake. A few million were saved, but the team lost a player who could have helped win another championship. Even Giannis seemed dissatisfied—he publicly said he understood the business, but it’s hard to imagine he wouldn’t have preferred to have Tucker back by his side in the fight.

Therefore, it’s placed 12th in our ranking—a mistake that might not have been as harmful in the long run as giving away a young star or a missed high draft pick, but painful because it concerned a championship roster. The Bucks learned here that sometimes it’s not worth being stingy. The championship window can be short, and every piece of the puzzle is valuable. Tucker might have been marginal in stats (averaging around 4.0 PPG in the 2021 playoffs), but his contribution was priceless. Milwaukee learned this the hard way, retrospectively.

11. Kidd chaos: hiring Jason Kidd as coach (2014–18)

When newly molded Milwaukee Bucks owners (Wes Edens and Marc Lasry) announced Jason Kidd’s hiring as head coach in the summer of 2014, many fans rubbed their eyes in disbelief. Kidd was indeed a legend as a player, had just retired, and had one season of coaching experience with the Brooklyn Nets—a season full of drama, intrigue, and mixed results. Moreover, his arrival in Milwaukee occurred amidst scandal: the Bucks still had a valid contract with coach Larry Drew, but the new owners had secretly agreed with Kidd (a private friend of Lasry’s) and bought him out from the Nets for two second-round picks! Yes, they gave up picks for a coach. Drew was fired almost without warning—he learned everything from a message on his phone. The Kidd era was beginning, presented as a “young coaching genius will lead talented young Bucks.” It was supposed to be beautiful, but it turned out… well.

At first, it actually seemed like Kidd was a miracle worker. In the 2014–15 season, Milwaukee jumped from 15 wins to 41—they made the playoffs (with a .500 record, but still). Kidd changed the team’s style: he introduced aggressive full-court defense, lots of double-teams, and traps—in the first season, it surprised opponents. Young players like Giannis Antetokounmpo and Khris Middleton appreciated Kidd’s energy. It seemed the experiment was succeeding. However, in subsequent years, the charm wore off. Kidd’s innovative defense turned out to be one-dimensional. When the league adjusted and began breaking down the Bucks’ presses with quick passes to open shooters, the Milwaukee team suddenly became one of the worst defenses in the league. Over four years, the Bucks’ defensive rating dropped from second place in 2015 to 19th in 2018—the opposite evolution expected from a coach considered a defensive specialist.

Kidd also became famous for controversial motivational methods. His “reign” was often described as dictatorial; he introduced elements of military drill. The “Christmas training” story in 2014 became widely discussed: the day before Christmas Eve, after a loss in a “winnable” game against Charlotte, Kidd decided his players didn’t deserve free holidays. Despite protests, he ordered a 9 a.m. practice on Christmas Eve. It wasn’t a normal practice—it was a three-hour ordeal: interval running, wind sprints, like at a college basketball camp. Players were staggering from exhaustion; reportedly, some were throwing up. Kidd swore at them (calling them “a parody of professionals,” etc.), and he particularly picked on Larry Sanders, verbally humiliating him and blaming him for the loss. Imagine this: Christmas Eve, most people are thinking about dinner and family, and Bucks players are doing sprints until they vomit because the coach decided to teach them a “lesson.” The result? Sanders had a mental breakdown a few days later, which probably accelerated his retirement from playing a few weeks later (see the previous point on our list), and the remaining players resented Kidd.

This wasn’t his only stunt. Kidd was known for unconventional, perhaps insane, methods. As Nets coach a year earlier, he infamously had his player bump him to spill a drink and get an illegal timeout (“spill gate”)—seemingly clever, but the league punished him for it. In Milwaukee, it was less spectacular but more toxic. Kidd often publicly criticized his players, pointing out their mistakes in the media. Young Giannis later recalled that he learned a lot from Kidd, but there were extreme moments—for example, after Giannis’s triple-double at a young age, Kidd coldly stated at a conference: “he played terribly, all bad decisions, a triple-double means nothing if we lose.” Such tough love might work for some, but many Bucks players had enough.

The locker room was boiling, though not everyone immediately showed it. Information surfaced about a growing conflict between Kidd and some veterans. When the team in the 2017–18 season got stuck around .500, patience wore thin. In January 2018, Kidd was abruptly fired. Reportedly, Giannis—Kidd’s favorite—even wanted to call club officials to defend the coach, but he was advised against it. The decision was firm: enough chaos, enough unpredictability. Assistant Joe Prunty took over the team for the rest of the season, and Mike Budenholzer was hired in the summer. What happened next? The Bucks immediately became a powerhouse: the best NBA record in the 2018–19 season, Giannis won MVP, and the team’s playing style finally adapted to its talents (stretched offense, sensible defense). The contrast with the Kidd era was enormous.

So why is Jason Kidd’s hiring on our list of mistakes? It was a move based more on hopes and connections than on actual reasons. Milwaukee gave up picks for a rookie coach and gave him power not only on the bench but also in personnel decisions: Kidd influenced trades—it was during his tenure that several questionable moves were made, such as trading Knight for MCW, which (spoiler alert) we’ll discuss shortly. In a way, the organization became hostage to the coach’s unstable character. The final effect: a few years of wasted team development (because although Giannis developed, the team as a whole stagnated), some players alienated, the club’s reputation tarnished (league whispers about strange methods, with a smirk). One could argue that Kidd helped in the first stage of rebuilding—after all, they made the playoffs in 2015. But from the perspective of 2025, it’s clear that if Budenholzer had arrived 2–3 years earlier, the Bucks could have contended for the highest goals sooner.

Jason Kidd in Milwaukee is synonymous with unfulfilled potential and unnecessary drama. He started experiments like “Giannis as a point forward,” which eventually paid off, but there were just as many unsuccessful ideas, such as prioritizing ineffective players at the expense of promising ones (there was a time he favored older players over Malcolm Brogdon or Thon Maker—yes, he reportedly pushed for Maker in the draft too). In any case, hiring Kidd and sticking with him for so long is counted as a mistake. 11th on our list, because although the costs were mainly intangible (lost time and a lot of bad taste), it’s hard not to include a move that could have derailed the Bucks’ future more than we might realize. Suffice it to say that Giannis genuinely liked Kidd—when he was fired, he was in shock. If the Greek Freak had rebelled then or demanded a trade (as NBA stars can do), it would have been a tragedy. Fortunately, nothing of the sort happened, and the Bucks moved forward. Kidd got a second chance in Dallas and has already caused some commotion there too. Better he mess up other teams—that’s what Bucks fans sighed when the Kidd mania in Milwaukee finally ended.

10. All-Star for peanuts? The Andrew Bogut for Monta Ellis trade (2012)

Let’s shift for a moment to 2012. The Milwaukee Bucks were stuck in mediocrity—every season, they hovered around the playoff line, sometimes making it as an eighth seed, sometimes not. On the roster, scorer Brandon Jennings shone, but the true “face” of the team was still Andrew Bogut, the no. 1 pick of the 2005 draft, a center who was supposed to be a pillar for years. Bogut played solidly; in 2010, he even made the Third Team All-NBA (judged to be the third-best center in the league that year), but plagued by injuries, he couldn’t fully spread his wings. The worst was in April 2010: a horrific broken hand and dislocated elbow after a fall, which ruled him out of those playoffs and left a permanent mark. Then more ankle problems. In 2012, Bogut was again recovering from a serious injury (broken ankle), and the Bucks decided it was time for a change. Unfortunately, the way these changes were made ranks among the club’s biggest blunders.

In March of that lockout-shortened season, Milwaukee agreed with the Golden State Warriors on a trade: Andrew Bogut and Stephen Jackson (a frustrated player whom the Bucks had acquired a few months earlier and had already managed to fall out with coach Skiles) went to the Warriors. In return, the Bucks received Monta Ellis, Ekpe Udoh, and Kwame Brown. On paper, it looked like a move that 1) cleared the air by getting rid of Jackson, 2) changed the team’s profile—a big man was traded for a dynamic perimeter player. Monta Ellis was then known as a brilliant scorer, averaging 20+ points per game in Golden State, although that didn’t necessarily translate into wins. Furthermore, Ellis was known for a rather inefficient style: many shots, little defense, problems with off-ball play. But the Bucks thought: paired with Jennings, he’ll create the league’s smallest (but fastest) backcourt! Indeed, both measured around 6’1”, which promised trouble defending taller opponents. However, this was brushed aside: “just score more points!”

The result? “Monta Ellis has it all” – this famous phrase from the press conference after the trade, when a reporter asked what Monta would bring to the Bucks, and he replied in his characteristic style: “I have it all,” meaning he possessed everything: shooting, passing, defense. Unfortunately, it quickly turned out to be empty boasting. The Bucks did finish the 2011–12 season at a decent level (at the time of the trade, they were 10th in the East, finishing just outside the playoffs, but close), and Monta had some good games. But the whole Jennings-Ellis experiment failed. In the 2012–13 season, the Bucks again finished eighth in the East, barely making the postseason. Monta Ellis averaged over 19 points and six assists per game, but he shot 41% from the field and a dismal 28% from three—to put it mildly, efficiency lagged. With Jennings, they formed one of the least economical pairs in the league: both loved to shoot, but neither exceeded 40-41% from the field. Two low-efficiency scorers, no sharpshooter: a recipe for mediocrity.

The Bucks crashed out in the first round of the 2013 playoffs against LeBron James’s Miami Heat and were swept 0-4, like a mosquito swatted by a newspaper. Ellis couldn’t make a difference—in the series, he averaged under 15 points per game, missing shots in streaks. After the season, he exercised his option to exit his contract; the Bucks offered an extension of $36m over three years, he declined—and ultimately signed for similar money in Dallas. In Milwaukee, only a bad taste and a question remained after Monta: did they really give up Bogut for this?

Let’s look at the other side of the trade. Andrew Bogut, after rehabilitation, joined the Warriors in the 2012–13 season. He might not have been as offensively potent as before, but he became a defensive pillar for the young Oakland team. The Warriors began to build championship potential—Bogut handled the dirty work in the paint, passed excellently, set countless screens for Curry and Thompson. In 2015, he won an NBA championship with Golden State as their starting center, and reached another Finals a year later. His impact wasn’t always visible in stats (he didn’t need points to dominate defensively), but he was crucial for those Warriors. So, one could say the Bucks gifted the Warriors a missing piece of a dynasty. And what did they get in return? A few Monta Ellis highlights and a trophy for “first-round sweep.”

Looking back, a center with All-NBA defensive potential (when healthy) was given away for a low-efficiency backcourt that never made sense. The Bucks might as well have put up a banner saying “we want to be mediocre at all costs.” At that time, owner Herb Kohl disliked the word “rebuild”—he preferred fighting for eighth place over tanking. This trade perfectly symbolized that: instead of waiting out Bogut’s injury and trying to rebuild with him (or possibly trade him for more elsewhere), they went for a trade that was supposed to provide an immediate fireworks injection. Did it? Perhaps for a week, there was excitement about Monta in Milwaukee—to this day, some remember his spectacular drives to the basket—but ultimately, nothing lasting came of it.

To make matters worse, they also gave away a 2012 draft pick with Bogut (which happened to be theirs from previous moves)—the Warriors received the no. 7 pick in the 2012 draft. While they didn’t make the best use of that pick (they chose Harrison Barnes, a solid player, but not a star), the Bucks didn’t even have a chance to benefit. Ekpe Udoh and Kwame Brown, whom Milwaukee received, also contributed nothing. Udoh was a stopgap for two years, Kwame played a total of 12 more games and retired. Stephen Jackson? He played maybe 20 minutes total for the Warriors, who promptly released him, but for the Bucks, that was a plus, as he was a locker room cancer.

The assessment of this blunder from the Bucks’ perspective is evident: they turned the Warriors into a powerhouse, but they got stuck in the mud. Okay, maybe that’s an exaggeration—the Warriors had Curry, who would have carried them to the top anyway—but the fact remains that Bogut became a crucial part of their puzzle. Monta Ellis left Milwaukee without regret, becoming the face of a failed period. Even fans who initially defended the trade (“Bogut’s always injured anyway,” they’d say) bit their tongues in 2015, seeing Andrew celebrate a championship in Oakland.

Therefore, this trade lands high on the list—we give it spot no. 10. It’s not higher only because Bogut, though great, was a health risk, and Monta at least provided some excitement. But let’s not fool ourselves—it was a disastrous move. The proverb says, “better to lose wisely than gain foolishly.” The Bucks in 2012 did the opposite: they lost foolishly and seemingly gained, but in reality, they lost both. To be fair, Monta Ellis didn’t have it all, and he certainly didn’t have a redeeming impact on the Milwaukee Bucks.

Source: https://www.brewhoop.com/bucks-feat...pj-tucker-jason-kidd-monta-ellis-andrew-bogut
 
Is a glitchy basketball game for middle school math better than 2K?

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On Monday, January 13th, 2025, at 6:30 p.m., AJ Green and Stanley Umude were shooting hoops in Milwaukee. A normal night of practice after returning from playing the Knicks to prepare for the Kings coming to town? Far from it. Green and Umude were at the Froedtert & the Medical College of Wisconsin Sports Science Center with students from the Bruce-Guadalupe Community School and the Frank Lloyd Wright Intermediate School, and they were about to bring math to life.

Green and Umude were there for a live version of something called NBA Math Hoops. In the words of our managing editor: “I have no idea what NBA Math Hoops is but it made me think of Morgan.” It is here that I out myself: I was a math kid. I’ve matured, but I still only plug prime numbers into microwaves. It therefore came as no surprise that my immediate reaction was: “Trust me when I say that THIS GAME LOOKS SO FUN.” But trust me also when I say that you don’t need to be a math kid to join me in thinking that NBA Math Hoops is better than 2K.

So: what is NBA Math Hoops? How does one play? And what was it like to rekindle my old rivalry from the Lakeland Middle School Math Meet over three glitchy games of it? Buckle up, folks—it’s time for oFfSeAsOn CoNtEnT.

NBA Math Hoops: A primer​


Where to begin. Okay: NBA Math Hoops is run by the nonprofit Learn Fresh in association with NBA Cares, the Association’s social impact program. Oriented toward elementary and middle schoolers (Grades 3 or 4 to 8, depending on the source), its goal is teaching math through basketball, with an emphasis on reducing achievement gaps based on race and class. To do that, it developed a game—also called NBA Math Hoops—and a digital equivalent of it.

But it’s not just a game. Like the NBA, NBA Math Hoops involves a full season, including:

  • Training camp to prepare educators
  • Sportsmanship contracts
  • A draft of NBA and WNBA players
  • An in-class math curriculum approved by the Boys & Girls Club of America and the YMCA, including banger videos like Odd and Even Numbers with Allan Houston, Measurement with Norman Powell, Percentages with Jarrett Allen, and Calculating the Mean with Chiney Ogwumike
  • Gameplay
  • Regional tournaments
  • The NBA Math Hoops Global Championship

Why global, you ask? The more than a million students who have participated in NBA Math Hoops since its inception in 2016–17 include kiddos from South Africa and—wait for it—Australia! Alas, only in Victoria, leaving Brew Hoop’s Adelaide Bureau out of the loop.

Here in Wisconsin (where it is sponsored by ATC), over 11,000 students participated in 2023–24, playing around 258,000 games and completing around 27 million math problems. And to wit: participating students improved their math scores by 27%.

How to play NBA Math Hoops​


But let’s cut to the chase: how do you play? You can access it here or through the app. You’ll be given various log-in options: anonymous log-in works for a quick fix (and has reasonable memory if you log in again later), but it might be best to link to an Apple or Google account to keep your team over time (though I’ll discuss potential issues with that later).

When you start, you’ll be given a random team name (name of NBA or WNBA team + four random digits) and treated to an absolutely stacked lineup of NBA and WNBA players, color-coded to their positions. The players’ stats are purportedly updated in real-time, as are new players. In the settings, you can select from an impressive menu of languages. For this audience, I’ll highlight that Greek is among them.

To play games, you have three main options. There’s Head-to-Head if you want to plaster the middle schoolers playing this game for class. There’s Quick Play if you want to beat up on the computer. There’s League Play if you want to play with friends (more on that below, though). And before you begin, you can do the Tutorial, and win an award for it to boot. There are Weekly Challenges and Career Achievements!

Gameplay​


It’s time to play! You can choose the shot clock, game length, and whether division is enabled (LOL). The game starts by rolling dice, with the highest going first and starting on the “even” side of the board. This being a math game, there are even and odd sides of the board, with players switching at halftime. The board itself is a bunch of numbers scattered around a court in colored circles indicating their corresponding player positions.

On your turn, you roll two dice. You then have to—get to!—add, subtract, multiply, and divide those numbers (0–8). If you do that correctly (and fair warning: division often requires rounding your decimals, and you leave it blank if dividing by zero), you get to select a number (i.e., shot) corresponding to one of the answers on your side of the court. You choose the shot with the best probability and spin a spinner to take it. If there is a shot, that is—if there are no matches on your (odd or even) side of the court, it’s a turnover. But if you roll double zeroes, you get to select any shot!

But watch out! Your opponent can steal the ball by calling out an incorrect answer. If they’re right, they get to take the same type of shot on their side of the board. But if they’re wrong, then you make your shot automatically! Your opponent can also choose to foul. Hard fouls only in NBA Math Hoops, so you automatically go to the line to shoot two or three shots.

When all is done and dusted, winners are rewarded with additional players, progress in challenges and achievements, and glory. If you still have questions, have I got the cringe (but helpful) nine-part YouTube tutorial for you! And rest assured: the instructions are the most boring part of any game. Let’s play!

A rivalry rekindled, eventually​


To do my due diligence as a journalist, I needed to play the game myself. I first selected Head-to-Head, where I annihilated a likely middle schooler to score Nickeil Alexander-Walker. I then selected Quick Play, only to get pantsed by the computer thanks to shooting woes, especially as its math accuracy seemed to improve to my level as the game continued. But I knew to truly experience what NBA Math Hoops had to offer, I had to try League Play with a worthy competitor. So I rekindled my old rivalry from the Lakeland Middle School Math Meet for a face-off.

Immediate record scratch: we were unable to make League Play work. We tried different combinations of log-ins and devices to no avail. I received errors that literally said “Uh oh” and “Oops.” But eventually we stumbled on a combination that seemed to work: we logged in anonymously to the app and used Head-to-Head. Luckily, we were always matched with each other—it turns out that not many other folks were playing on a Tuesday evening in July.

Over the course of three games, yours truly was victorious twice, with a tie in Game 2 after one of us (not me!) left the game at the beginning of overtime not knowing we were tied. I was too stupidly locked in to the game to provide adequate play-by-play—a real shame, given my scintillating second-half comeback keyed by Thaddeus Young inexplicably turning into a premier marksman—but what follows are my insider tips on succeeding at NBA Math Hoops.

The Game within the game​


Every second counts in NBA Math Hoops; I recommend rolling the dice ASAP to buy yourself as much of the shot clock as possible.

Assuming that your opponent isn’t a middle schooler, I recommend against turning the ball over. That doesn’t sound like a hot take, but let’s walk through an example. Let’s say you’re on the odd end of the court and roll an 8 and a 2. Spoiler: that gives you no odds! (6, 10, 16, and 4, to be precise.) Instead of answering correctly and turning the ball over, give an (odd) incorrect answer on purpose. If that sounds weird in an educational math game, remember that math is like English: once you learn the rules, you get to break them. If your opponent steals, ah well; they’ll just get a shot attempt without having to math, which they would get anyway if they are a competent mathlete. Specifically, try to strike a balance: pick a number that gives you a good shot, but would give your opponent a bad shot if they steal, and ideally one that seems like a plausible answer to the equation in question. And if your opponent isn’t doing YOUR math like they should—NBA Math Hoops never sleeps—then you get an easy bucket!

With practice, you can probably marginally increase your shooting percentage by getting a feel for the spinner. You’ll want to spin it relatively slowly for more control, but note that you’ll have to respin if you spin too slowly, wasting precious seconds.

Shot clock dynamics are everything in NBA Math Hoops. You can’t foul an opponent until they pick a shot, so if you have a big lead, don’t shoot until the last second. Based on how fast you spin the spinner, don’t spin until you have 3–5 seconds left on the shot clock—in NBA Math Hoops, the shot doesn’t count if it hasn’t splashed before zero.

The final verdict​


My titular question asks whether a glitchy basketball game for middle school math—NBA Math Hoops—is better than 2K. Let me make my final case. In the 1800s, the Impressionists were deemed heretical for painting the impressions of things rather than the things themselves. But they gained a devout following over time. It turned out that the impression of something is often more interesting than the thing itself.

Basketball is a wonderful thing. NBA 2K is a reasonable approximation of that wonderful thing. But NBA Math Hoops is a joyful impression of that wonderful thing. It’s the Claude Monet to 2K’s Albert Bierstadt: both paint glorious pictures of their subject matter, but Monet and NBA Math Hoops transcend their subject by making it subjective. NBA Math Hoops is not basketball, but it offers a glowing portrait of it through math-tinted glasses.

Source: https://www.brewhoop.com/bucks-feat...ba-math-hoops-milwaukee-bucks-basketball-game
 
Milwaukee’s problematic path of one-way point guards: Chapter 1

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Ever since Giannis Antetokounmpo became a perennial MVP-level talent and the Milwaukee Bucks could realistically see themselves as contenders, they have been working with a point guard who has limited the team’s potential on one end of the court. For Eric Bledsoe and Jrue Holiday, that was on offence; for Damian Lillard, that was on defence. Ultimately, it’s hard not to think that these players’ pronounced weaknesses might have cost the team significantly.

In this series, I wrote three chapters, each with three sections. One section within each chapter will be a discussion about the point guard of that time (specifically, their pronounced weakness), and the other two will focus on topics connected with the events that occurred during that point guard’s tenure in Milwaukee. Combined, these three chapters will navigate the Bucks’ complicated journey from 2018 to now, (mostly) quantitatively analysing how each move at point guard impacted that journey.

Disclaimer: I approached writing this article exclusively from a basketball results-focused perspective when discussing front office decisions. For example, past reporting has indicated that what Giannis and GM Jon Horst have each wanted haven’t always coincided, but that Antetokounmpo has often won out, understandably. These moves might not have yielded the desired on-court success, but could be considered “successful moves” because they may have played a role in Giannis extending his contract. For this article, I deliberately did not take that angle into account.

I fully acknowledge that team building does not occur in a vacuum, and stress that this story should be read more as a thought exercise than a referendum on the past. For what it’s worth, my overriding belief is that the front office should always make decisions based solely on what they believe will bring the team the greatest on-court success—even if that happens to be incongruous with what Antetokounmpo
thinks will achieve said success—because ultimately, it’s the front office’s job to figure out how to make the team win, and winning will be the biggest boon in keeping the two-time MVP anyway.


What is weak link theory, and where do its elements apply (and not apply) to Bledsoe, Holiday, and Lillard?

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In writing about the years-long issue Milwaukee has had with one-way point guards, my mind immediately went to weak link theory. What is weak link theory? In essence, it is a theory that can be applied to many different sports, stating that the most positively influential players have less impact on team success than the most negatively influential players do. For those interested in a deeper explanation, Owen Phillips has written extensively about weak link theory on his Substack, The F5. Looking at it through a basketball lens, weak link theory states that a player who defends poorly or cannot shoot efficiently, for example, will do more to limit a team’s ceiling than a flawless player can do to raise it.

In fact, Caitlin Cooper—who writes about the Indiana Pacers on her excellent blog named Basketball, She Wrote—spoke on her podcast with Pacers head coach Rick Carlisle about a slew of topics centred around “playing random” (Coach Bud might’ve been onto something there). In that podcast, one of the topics discussed that related to playing random was the Pacers’ high-octane, chaotic tempo. Specifically, Carlisle got into why Indiana opts to guard 94 feet and the physical demand that places on his players, which dovetailed into the advantages of having lots of serviceable players without notable weaknesses who can rotate through and not miss a beat on either end, essentially discussing the increasing prevalence of weak link theory in today’s game without necessarily labelling it as much:

“The NBA game has now become a play-hard league. It’s not just being top-heavy with stars. Roster construction is changing. It’s become more important to have more good players than be top-heavy with two or three great players that get all the touches.”

Rick Carlisle

Now, if I’m discussing weak link theory through a Bucks lens, the position that I think it would apply to the most would be the ever-rotating cast of shooting guards. Andre Jackson Jr., Wesley Matthews, Grayson Allen, Malik Beasley, I can go on. The point is, none of those guys fit what the Bucks needed out of that position because, while they were solid players, they were too flawed to be starters on a championship team. They were “weak links” in the truest sense, I suppose. But I want to make a diversion in this article and discuss a slightly different idea: that the Bucks have spent the last seven seasons with starting point guards who ended up being severe weak links on just one end of the floor, while being elite at the other. This complicates things because these players, unlike the shooting guards I mentioned above, functionally cannot be taken off the court; you’re living and dying with their weaknesses. Now that I have that preamble out of the way, I want to dive deeply into how the Bucks got to the current moment, starting with the 2018–19 season.

Back to where it all began​

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The Bucks became a dominant defensive team in the 2018–19 season, mainly due to Mike Budenholzer installing his analytics-based defensive system. But no matter how innovative a defensive system itself is, it still requires prolific individual defenders to bring it to life. Giannis was (and still is) a two-way machine, Eric Bledsoe made his bones as a point-of-attack pit bull, Brook Lopez developed into one of the better drop defenders in the league, and Ersan Ilyasova was seemingly the league’s most proficient charge taker! The Bucks became known that season for their ability to dominate games on defence (first in defensive rating). Additionally, Giannis led the team to the fourth-best offensive rating in the league.

Much of the reason Milwaukee was so potent on offence, despite not having many dynamic shot makers, was because of their stifling defence. By consistently forcing opponents into a bunch of missed shots, the Bucks were able to attack defences that weren’t set and regularly score in transition; having Giannis helps with that, for sure. The team ended the 2018–19 season tied for first in transition points. In fact, Milwaukee ranked within the top three teams for transition scoring in Budenholzer’s first four seasons at the helm, which is pretty remarkable. This defensive identity gave the team such a high floor, making them incredibly hard to beat from night to night. Side note: As I’ll get to in Chapter 3, that floor seemingly began to diminish in Bud’s final season in 2022–23 when the team finished ninth in transition scoring (despite their defence remaining elite at fourth). Now, given the fact that defence stayed steady, that dip in transition scoring may well have been an outlier, but it’s impossible to know for sure; there wasn’t another season with the same core to test that theory out. Then, as the team’s main pillars got shifted around the following season, the transition scoring decline continued, finishing 12th in 2023–24 and plummeting to 22nd last season.

But let’s get back to the 2018–19 season, where Milwaukee had seemingly struck the perfect balance on both ends entering the postseason, winning 60 games and earning the top seed in the Eastern Conference. Funnily enough, the Bucks had the same statistical profile in the playoffs (first on D and fourth on O) that they had in the regular season; as the NBA champion table later in this article shows, that statistical profile is safely within the realm of previous NBA title winners. I discussed the advantages of transition scoring in the above paragraph: it allows teams to attack defences that aren’t set. Well, attacking defences that aren’t set is especially preferable in the playoffs compared to going against the opponent’s half-court defence due to the extra time opponents have to prepare and the raised level of competition. Let’s just say Milwaukee took that advice to heart! This stat seems almost fake, but in addition to the regular season, the Bucks also led the league in transition scoring during the 2018–19 playoffs, averaging 29.9 points per game; the next-highest transition scoring team averaged 21.7 points per game. No, that is not a typo. Absolutely bonkers.

Anyway, despite all of these positive statistical indicators, the team couldn’t get it done that postseason; I don’t need to do the play-by-play. Milwaukee lost that Eastern Conference Finals series for several reasons, one being that they played a great team in Toronto, another being the way the Raptors stymied Giannis to a degree that other opponents had not. However, an under-discussed reason was that the team’s starting point guard, Eric Bledsoe, struggled to shoot efficiently and was a weak link in Milwaukee’s offensive chain.

Weak link #1: Eric Bledsoe

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Key elements of weak link theory hit Milwaukee at the most inopportune time, in the form of Eric Bledsoe, whom the Bucks acquired from Phoenix the season prior in a trade for Greg “Moose” Monroe. Ironically, in ESPN’s write-up of the trade, they paraphrased an unnamed Eastern Conference head coach who believed Bledsoe would immediately become the Bucks’ best pick-and-roll player (swing and a miss there!) but, and I quote, “wondered how Bledsoe would assimilate away from the ball when Antetokounmpo is making plays.” An ominous harbinger for things to come, and boy, did they ever. Eric struggled in that series against the Raptors. In total, he shot 5/29 (17.2%) from three and 15/39 (38.5%) from two. The Bucks were so close to going up 3-0 against the Raptors and booking their ticket to the NBA Finals. If Bledsoe shot even marginally better, that might well have put them over the edge.

But those shooting struggles weren’t a one-time thing either. The Bucks again finished with the Eastern Conference’s top seed in the following season. They dismantled Orlando in the first round of the playoffs without much fuss and faced the Heat in the second round, eager to return to the Eastern Conference Finals. But it all came crashing down, and Milwaukee lost in five games to Miami (of course, ancillary factors such as the Covid “bubble” and the team’s stand for racial justice during that time played roles as well). In that series, Eric shot 3/14 (21.4%) from distance and 13/34 (38.2%) from two. Following that disappointing series loss, Jon Horst made a monumental move to trade Bledsoe for Jrue Holiday. The hope was that adding Jrue would allow the team to maintain or even improve its already elite defence while also being an upgrade on Eric’s offence. And to be clear, Jrue’s stats before getting traded to Milwaukee reinforced the idea that he could help achieve such two-way success for the team. Unfortunately, that theory did not play out in practice when it mattered most…



Chapter 2 of this series will be published next week, discussing Jrue Holiday’s offensive struggles in the playoffs with the Bucks, statistically analysing Milwaukee’s title and how it compares with prior champions, and if the trade for Holiday actually paid off. I know this chapter may have seemed a tad brief; including the introduction and obligatory preamble meant the Bledsoe section would be a little shorter. Expect more robust analysis in Chapters 2 and 3. Thanks!

Source: https://www.brewhoop.com/bucks-anal...ory-eric-bledsoe-rick-carlisle-indiana-pacers
 
The chapter of errors, part III: 15 biggest mistakes by the Milwaukee Bucks (2002–2025)

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9. BogdanGate: the failed Bogdan Bogdanović trade (2020)

This was a story straight out of a crime movie: intrigues, information leaks, an NBA investigation, and a penalty. Unfortunately, the victims were the Milwaukee Bucks, specifically their reputation and plans to strengthen the roster. Let’s rewind to November 2020. The Bucks, fresh off a humiliating loss in the bubble (2020 playoffs, 1-4 defeat to Miami), were seeking reinforcements to convince Giannis Antetokounmpo to sign his contract extension (the supermax). Rumors circulated that the Bucks were determined—and indeed, on November 16, news broke of a major trade: Milwaukee acquiring Jrue Holiday from the New Orleans Pelicans for a package of players and picks. Fans celebrated—it was a significant positive move. But that wasn’t all—within hours, another bomb dropped: the Bucks had reportedly agreed to acquire Bogdan Bogdanović from the Sacramento Kings.

Bogdanović, a sharpshooter from Serbia, was then a restricted free agent. The plan involved a sign-and-trade: the Bucks were supposed to receive Bogdan and a certain wing (Justin James) in exchange for Donte DiVincenzo, Ersan Ilyasova, and DJ Wilson. Information about the transaction was spread by a top insider (Adrian Wojnarowski), so everyone took it as a certainty. Bucks fans went into euphoria: Holiday + Bogdanović? Close the arena, they have a title! The problem was that the official start of free agency was still a few days away. The NBA has strict rules: negotiations with free agents before the market opens are considered tampering—illegal activities. So it turns out someone from one of the parties involved agreed on the details too early and even leaked it to the press. Chaos erupted.

The league launched an investigation, and in the meantime, Bogdanović himself poured fuel on the fire by stating that he hadn’t agreed to anything and intended to test the market. Suddenly, the Bucks’ intricate plan began to crumble. On November 20, when free agency officially opened, it turned out that Bogdanović was meeting with other teams—meanwhile, Milwaukee had to watch helplessly. The result? Bogdan signed an offer sheet with the Atlanta Hawks (4 years for about $72m), which the Kings did not match—he became a Hawk. The Bucks were left with nothing. Well, almost—they were left with suspicions of manipulation. The NBA ultimately punished Milwaukee with the loss of a 2022 second-round draft pick, stating that there had been illegal talks (tampering) in the attempt to acquire Bogdanović.

This incident—let’s call it BogdanGate—is a mistake that might not have cost the Bucks a specific player from their roster (like other trades on the list), but it cost them lost potential. Imagine if this transfer had gone through legally: in the 2020–21 season, the Bucks would have had both Holiday and Bogdanović alongside Giannis and Middleton. This would have meant four players capable of scoring 15+ points in every game, including two very good outside shooters (Middleton and Bogdan) and an elite defender/playmaker (Holiday). In the real world, the Bucks still won the 2021 championship, but with great difficulty—they sometimes lacked a shooter in the rotation (let’s not forget that after the Bogdan fiasco, they had to quickly sign Bryn Forbes). Bogdanović landed in Atlanta… and coincidentally, the Hawks were the Bucks’ opponent in the Conference Finals that year. A small twist: Bogdan played that series with a knee injury and didn’t shine, but the mere fact that a player who was supposed to be theirs happened to be fighting on the other side of the court was strange.

From the Bucks’ perspective, the situation was triply frustrating:

Firstly, they lost the chance for a great player at a relatively moderate price (they were only supposed to give up DiVincenzo and two backups).

Secondly, they were publicly humiliated—in the eyes of the league and fans, they came across as amateurs who couldn’t even close a transfer according to the rules. Other teams also tamper (it’s an open secret), but here it was done so poorly that it caused a huge uproar.

Thirdly, they had to live with the consequence: no Bogdan meant less firepower. True, they ultimately succeeded—they won the championship without him. So one might ask: was it even a mistake if they didn’t lack anything in 2021? In my opinion, yes, because although the ultimate goal was achieved, the path was winding and perhaps more bumpy than necessary. Having Bogdanović in those playoffs, for example, in the series against the Nets, where every three-point shooter was worth their weight in gold, would have been a luxury.

In the long run, Bogdanović with the Bucks could have extended their championship window. After the 2021 season, they lost Tucker (see previous point), and Forbes wasn’t the answer to anything. In Atlanta, Bogdan served as an important bench player in subsequent seasons, averaging ~15 points per game on ~39% from three—exactly the type of player the Bucks needed as support for Giannis and co.

It’s hard to understand who was to blame for BogdanGate. Perhaps the Kings’ front office talked too early, or someone from the Bucks wanted to make a splash and didn’t ensure discretion. One rumor said that Bogdanović himself wasn’t thrilled about the idea of joining Milwaukee without being consulted (after all, as a free agent, he expected to choose his destination). A Bucks’ front office source communicated to Brew Hoop in 2022 that Bogdanović‘s agent scuttled the deal. So when the news broke, he felt his pride was hurt and decided: “No way! I’ll test the market.” For the Bucks, it was a lesson: don’t count your chickens before they hatch—and keep your mouth shut until the transfer is official.

BogdanGate, as a mistake, lands at number nine. Perhaps not as catastrophic sportingly as others, because ultimately the Bucks won the title, and we can’t say “this ruined them.” But as a PR blunder and a lost opportunity, it was outstanding. Every Bucks fan remembers those few rollercoaster days: first joy (“they got Bogdan!”), then consternation (“wait, is this illegal?”), then anger (“why did they mess this up?”), and finally relief mixed with regret (“Holiday is here, the championship is here, but Bogdan is gone and won’t be…”). For a long time, every mention of tampering will reference Milwaukee 2020 as a cautionary tale. And Bogdanović himself? Well, his name became synonymous with “what could have been, but wasn’t.”

8. Dismantling “Fear the Deer”: trading Brandon Knight for Michael Carter-Williams (2015)

It was January 2015, a season in which the young Milwaukee Bucks were starting to spark hope among fans. After a disastrous tank season in 2013–14 (15 wins), the team rebounded surprisingly quickly under the leadership of the aforementioned Jason Kidd and thanks to the development of players like Giannis, Middleton, and especially Brandon Knight. The latter, acquired two years earlier from Detroit, had finally grown into the team’s leading scorer. In the first half of the 2014/15 season, Knight was averaging nearly 18 points and 5 assists per game, hitting three triples per contest at 40% efficiency, and adding a couple of game-winners. The Bucks were playing above expectations—around the All-Star Game, their record was 30-23 and a solid sixth place in the East. People started calling them “Fear the Deer” (the slogan from the 2010 playoffs revived), and some journalists even thought Brandon Knight deserved consideration for the All-Star Game (he didn’t make it ultimately, but he was close).

And then something strange happened. The Bucks’ management—particularly GM John Hammond and reportedly, a heavily lobbying coach Kidd—decided to… dismantle this accelerating machine. On trade deadline day in February, they executed a complicated three-team trade with the Phoenix Suns and the Philadelphia 76ers. By its terms, Brandon Knight went to Phoenix, while Michael Carter-Williams (from Philly) and two young players: Tyler Ennis and Miles Plumlee (from Phoenix) arrived in Milwaukee. It was a complete surprise. After all, Knight was the best player on the Bucks that season, keeping the offense in check. He was expected to command a hefty salary in the summer (his rookie contract was expiring, he was heading for RFA status), but the Bucks had his rights—they could have kept him or at least negotiated. However, it was decided that: a) Knight would demand too much, b) he wasn’t a true point guard but a combo guard, and c) the team wasn’t going to win a championship right away anyway, so why not look long-term?

And here enters MCW, all in white (well, maybe a somewhat faded white, a Polish expression for a grand, often ironic, entrance). Michael Carter-Williams, the 2013–14 Rookie of the Year, came with a reputation as a talented, tall (6’6”) point guard who won that award under rather curious circumstances: his 76ers were hopeless (they were tanking), and he was putting up nice stats (ca. 17 PPG, six RPG, six APG) with horribly poor efficiency and a ton of turnovers. In his second season, MCW didn’t improve his shot—he still couldn’t shoot from distance (barely 25% from three for his career), so the Sixers were happy to trade him because they were collecting picks, and he was shedding a year off his rookie contract. The Bucks apparently saw something in him that fit their philosophy: long arms, defensive potential, ability to play fast breaks, and youth (23 years old).

However, as one might have expected, swapping Knight for MCW disrupted the chemistry. The Bucks, up until the trade, had a tolerable offense—Knight might not have been a classic playmaker, but he hit important shots and created for others at a decent level. After his departure, the offense stalled. Carter-Williams tried to step into the point guard role, but his limitations were immediately apparent. First and foremost, paired with Giannis or Middleton, a guard who could shoot from beyond the arc was needed. MCW absolutely did not provide that; opponents sagged off him on the perimeter by several feet. His drives to the basket often ended chaotically. Kidd tried to mask this, giving the ball more to Middleton, and MCW was supposed to focus on defense. Indeed, Michael showed flashes as a defender (height, long arms—he could rebound, block), but what good was that when he was like a headless horseman on offense?

The balance sheet? The Bucks, after the trade, saw a clear decline: from a team playing at ~57% winning percentage, they became a team winning perhaps every other game. They finished the season 41-41 (meaning they went 11-18 from the trade deadline). In the playoffs, even without Knight, they managed to scare the Bulls (lost 2-4 after an ambitious fight), but the offensive shortcomings were glaring. When it came to the decisive Game 6, the Bucks scored a miserable 66 points (the lowest in club history in the playoffs!) and suffered a 54-point defeat. Carter-Williams was a background player in that series—meanwhile, Knight watched from home, as Phoenix didn’t make the playoffs.

After the season, some Bucks fans were painfully convinced that MCW was not the answer. Nevertheless, the team gave him a chance the next season as a starter, which proved to be a failure: the Bucks had a terrible start to 2015–16, and MCW played inconsistently. Ultimately, in the very next season (2016–17), he lost his starting spot to then-rookie Malcolm Brogdon, and in February 2017, he was traded to Chicago for Tony Snell, ending this failed experiment. In other words: the Bucks got rid of their best player at that moment for someone they’d dump for peanuts two years later.

Moreover, though Knight didn’t become a star in Phoenix (he played a season and a half of decent basketball there, then had injuries), he still played better than MCW until his injuries. Phoenix, by the way, also regretted it, as in the summer of 2015, they gave Knight a big contract (five years, $70m), but he started having health problems and never fulfilled that deal. The Bucks, however, shot themselves in the foot, taking away their point guard during a good run. Who knows if that team couldn’t have achieved more if the chemistry hadn’t been disturbed? Of course, the 2015 Bucks wouldn’t have been champions—but maybe they would have won the series against Chicago? Maybe Knight would have become their point guard for years? We won’t know, because the club took a different path.

The economic context of this move was that Knight wanted roughly what he soon got from the Suns (around $14m annually). The Bucks decided that was too much for a guy they didn’t consider a top point guard. They preferred to get MCW on a cheap deal and develop him. In theory, logical: why overpay for an average star if you can cheaply raise a new one? The problem was that Carter-Williams never showed shooting promise, and his work ethic reportedly also suffered (it was rumored he wasn’t dedicated to improving his shot). Knight, however, was a hard worker, and though his ceiling was limited, he could have been a solid starting player for years.

Bucks fans were initially divided—some believed in the MCW project (especially since his Bucks debut was great when he nearly had a triple-double in one of his first games), others despaired over losing Knight, their guy. Over time, almost everyone agreed it was a mistake. In fact, Bucks players from that season were reportedly in shock. John Henson admitted years later that the team was completely surprised, and many guys were disappointed to lose Knight, who was their leader and friend. Such a sudden knock could have mentally derailed them.

On our list, this trade takes spot eight—high up, because it directly halted the momentum of a developing team. While previous mistakes were often a matter of poor talent evaluation or overpaying someone, here we have an example of self-sabotage: the Bucks themselves stopped a positive trend. Imagine the analogy: you’re driving a car at 120km/h on a straight road, and suddenly, seeing a bend 500 meters ahead, you say “I think it’s better to change the engine now for a different one, maybe slower, but potentially more economical”—and you stop on the side of the road, dismantle the engine. The result: competitors (other cars) pass you, and you stand there with parts in your hands.

That’s what the Bucks did in 2015. Carter-Williams turned out to be an engine with the wrong power. And yes, eventually they still planned to change the unit (because in the 2016 draft, they were hunting for someone, and later got Brogdon), but the timing and place were terrible. And all they had to do was crawl to the garage that summer with the old Knight engine.

From this lesson, Milwaukee seems to have concluded not to overcomplicate things with promising rosters. When they were a step away from the Finals in 2019, they didn’t immediately sell half the team—only the next season brought that kind of verification. In any case, the Knight-MCW trade is still remembered with a grimace: “why did they do that?”

7. The great bust: drafting Joe Alexander with the eighth pick (2008)

Every long-time Bucks fan has their favorite joke about Joe Alexander. That he probably jumps better than he plays, the fact that he was from Taiwan and spoke fluent Mandarin being more interesting than his game to some, or that “Joe Alexander” was a stage name, and his real name was “Who? Alexander.” Unfortunately, there’s a lot of bitterness in all of this, because the 2008 draft could have given the Bucks a very good player, and instead it gave them, well, a meme.

How did this happen? Let’s go back to the summer of 2008. The Bucks had just finished an average season and had the eighth pick in the draft. The general manager at the time was John Hammond, freshly hired from Detroit, where he was an architect (assistant GM) of the 2004 champion Pistons. Hammond wanted to inject new energy into Milwaukee. They had several young wings on their radar. When it was their turn, the list of best available players included Brook Lopez (center from Stanford), Joe Alexander (forward from West Virginia), DJ Augustin (point guard from Tcxas), and even promising center Roy Hibbert (from Georgetown). Hammond and his staff were captivated by Alexander: 6’9” tall, the athleticism of a leaping panther, blue eyes, and a six-pack—a Hollywood star, not a college kid. In the NCAA, he shone especially in the Big East conference tournament, leading his team to a title with several 30-point games and impressive athleticism: a 38.5-inch vertical and overall, a top athlete among players of that class. The Bucks probably sniffed out “another Shawn Kemp” or some other highlight machine. So they picked Joe at no. 8, hoping he would be a flashy and effective power forward (or small forward; at the time, he was thought to be able to play both forward positions).

The beginning might not have signaled tragedy—Alexander had a decent Summer League, signed his contract, and was full of enthusiasm. But when the season started, it quickly became clear that he had no grasp of the NBA. At first glance, he had everything: height, jumping ability, speed. Yet on the court, he looked like he was just learning how to play basketball. On defense, he lost his man; on offense, he either was afraid to shoot or threw up total bricks. Coach Scott Skiles, known for his harshness, had no trust in him whatsoever—it’s hard to blame him, as Joe reportedly didn’t impress even in practice with anything beyond dunks. Already in his rookie season, Skiles benched him. Alexander played in 59 games (mostly “garbage time”), averaging a modest 4.7 points and 1.9 rebounds per game. He shot 37% from the field. Zero starts, zero distinctions of any kind; even the dunk contest didn’t want him, although his athleticism would have been enough, but he needed to show something on the court first.

They tried to give him motivation and rhythm—the Bucks sent him to the D-League (today’s G-League) for a bit, which was rare for a lottery pick back then. Unfortunately, before a year had passed since the draft, the organization lost patience. In the summer of 2009, Joe Alexander suffered a hamstring injury, and the Bucks faced a decision about his third-year option. And something almost unheard of happened: the Bucks did not pick up the option. In other words, they admitted that the no. 8 pick was a bust before the guy even played his second season! This shows the scale of the disappointment—rarely does a club write off its high pick so quickly. In October 2009, it was announced that Alexander would become a free agent after the season because he would not have a guaranteed third year. This probably crushed him mentally.

He was soon used as financial filler in a trade: in February 2010, the Bucks packaged him and Hakim Warrick to acquire John Salmons from Chicago. Alexander thus ended his “career” in Milwaukee after 1.5 seasons, during which he scored a total of—we clutch our heads—less than 300 points in total. A guy from the top 10 of the draft scored a total of 292 points in a Bucks uniform (and then a dozen or so more in Bulls colors, but he barely played there at all). A superstar can sometimes do that in four games.

What went wrong? Alexander was an example of athlete ≠ basketball player. He learned the sport quite late (he had an unusual childhood in Asia, didn’t play AAU from a young age, etc.); in the NCAA, he compensated with energy but lacked a strong fundamental skill set. His basketball IQ was questionable, and his shot was erratic. In the NBA, he had no clear position: too physically weak for a power forward, too slow for a small forward. Defensively, he was easily beaten; offensively, he couldn’t utilize his athleticism, because what good is jumping highest if you can’t create position for a dunk? I remember in one game he got the ball one-on-one with the basket after a dribble and… tried to dunk from a running start, but forgot it wasn’t a warm-up, and the defender managed to knock it away. He looked like a lost boy among grown men.

An added twist: right after the 2008 draft, then-Bucks coach (Larry Krystkowiak) was fired and Skiles was hired. Skiles reportedly wasn’t a fan of Alexander from the start—he preferred tougher players. Maybe if the previous coach had stayed, Joe would have gotten more freedom? Or maybe not, because skills are skills.

The biggest pain for fans: who could they have had instead of him? A whole host of solid and great players went after no. 8 in 2008:

  • At the top of the list, probably Brook Lopez (no. 10)—true, the Bucks had Bogut at center then, but Lopez became an All-Star over the years and even finally joined the Bucks in 2018 as a key part of a championship team (imagine, they could have had him a decade earlier!).
  • Roy Hibbert (no. 17), a top defensive center for a few years.
  • Serge Ibaka (no. 24), also a top defender and champion with Toronto (coincidentally, he also ultimately played for Milwaukee later in his career, but he would have been useful while young).
  • Nicolas Batum (no. 25), a good wing for years, still around today.
  • George Hill (no. 26), a solid point guard (and another who later played for the Bucks, alas!).
  • DeAndre Jordan (no. 35), a one of the top rebounders of all time and a thunderous dunker.
  • Goran Dragić (no. 45)—a great point guard and All-Star in 2018 (also briefly a Buck!).

Even more modest players like Luc Richard Mbah a Moute (no. 37)—whom the Bucks picked in the second round— turned out to be 10 times more useful than Alexander! Yes, in the same 2008 draft, Milwaukee took LRMAM with the 37th pick, and he immediately became a good defender and starter. So they could hit, just not where they needed to. Joe Alexander became synonymous with a bust in Milwaukee. In rankings of the biggest NBA draft busts, he sometimes appears, though the competition is fierce. For the Bucks, he’s probably the worst pick since Dražen Dalipagić in 1977, but at least that one never showed up (because Yugoslavia wouldn’t let him go, so the Bucks couldn’t do anything). Joe came, he appeared on the court, but he never truly made an impact.

Jokingly, Alexander will always be remembered over a beer by fans of that era: “remember Joe? At least he could get off the bench—when Skiles told him to stand up and cheer for his teammates.” Ironic applause, because that’s one of the few things he actually did—cheer from the bench. Placed seventh on the list because it’s a classic draft-bust, meaning a lost opportunity to acquire real talent. Draft mistakes always hurt, and this one especially, because it occurred during a period when the Bucks were eager to bounce back. Instead, they caught a weight to sink with. The only positive? Perhaps that, thanks to Alexander’s bust and a few other mistakes from those years, the Bucks finally fell so low that in 2013 they could pick Giannis. But that’s another story.

Source: https://www.brewhoop.com/bucks-feat...oe-alexander-brandon-knight-bogdan-bogdanovic
 
Do the Bucks have a big three problem?

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The 2025-26 season will be the start of a new era for the Milwaukee Bucks—one without a true big three. Gone are the days of Giannis Antetokounmpo, Khris Middleton, and Jrue Holiday channeling their championship chemistry to drive success for the team. Giannis, Damian Lillard, and Middleton/Brook Lopez had a disappointing journey that came to an unexpectedly quick end this offseason. Giannis, Middleton, and Eric Bledsoe playing together is a distant memory. Today, Giannis is the only survivor from all of those trinities, and for the first time in a long time, his partner-in-crime isn’t an All-Star. Myles Turner is a formidable talent on both ends of the floor, one that has posted huge numbers in the postseason, but he’s well behind the curve in terms of second bananas in a stacked league. Flanking Giannis and Turner as a third option, at this point, is simply a help wanted sign. Kyle Kuzma, Kevin Porter Jr., Gary Trent Jr., and even AJ Green could fill that role on any given night, but relying on the power of friendship is a risky bet (unless you’re the Brewers), and at least one of those guys will need to find some consistency as a featured contributor. But which one will it be? All that uncertainty begs the questions: how good is Milwaukee’s big three relative to the rest of the league, and is what they have in that department enough to make them contenders? To answer those questions, I’ve ranked every team’s best trio in two different ways.

Ranking #1: Holistic approach


For my first list, I ranked big threes as more than the a sum of their parts: not ignoring the individual talent of each player, but primarily weighing how well each trifecta gels together and how much potential to win they have. Here’s what I came up with:

  1. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Jalen Williams, Chet Holmgren (OKC)
  2. Donovan Mitchell, Evan Mobley, Darius Garland (CLE)
  3. Jalen Brunson, Karl-Anthony Towns, OG Anunoby (NYK)
  4. Nikola Jokic, Jamal Murray, Aaron Gordon (DEN)
  5. Kevin Durant, Alperen Sengun, Amen Thompson (HOU)
  6. Anthony Edwards, Julius Randle, Rudy Gobert (MIN)
  7. Kawhi Leonard, James Harden, Ivica Zubac (LAC)
  8. Luka Doncic, LeBron James, Austin Reaves (LAL)
  9. Trae Young, Kristaps Porzingis, Jalen Johnson (ATL)
  10. Joel Embiid, Tyrese Maxey, Paul George (PHI)
  11. Paolo Banchero, Franz Wagner, Desmond Bane (ORL)
  12. Victor Wembanyama, De’Aaron Fox, Devin Vassell (SAS)
  13. Stephen Curry, Jimmy Butler, Draymond Green (GSW)
  14. Anthony Davis, Kyrie Irving, Cooper Flagg (DAL)
  15. Ja Morant, Jaren Jackson Jr., Santi Aldama (MEM)
  16. Giannis Antetokounmpo, Myles Turner, Kevin Porter Jr. (MIL)
  17. Jaylen Brown, Derrick White, Anfernee Simons (BOS)
  18. Domantas Sabonis, Zach LaVine, DeMar DeRozan (SAC)
  19. Zion Williamson, Dejounte Murray, Jordan Poole (NOP)
  20. Brandon Ingram, Scottie Barnes, RJ Barrett (TOR)
  21. Cade Cunningham, Jaden Ivey, Tobias Harris (DET)
  22. Bam Adebayo, Tyler Herro, Norman Powell (MIA)
  23. Pascal Siakam, Andrew Nembhard, Bennedict Mathurin (IND)
  24. Deni Avdija, Jrue Holiday, Shaedon Sharpe (POR)
  25. LaMelo Ball, Miles Bridges, Brandon Miller (CHO)
  26. Devin Booker, Jalen Green, Mark Williams (PHO)
  27. Coby White, Nikola Vucevic, Matas Buzelis (CHI)
  28. Lauri Markkanen, Walker Kessler, Keyonte George (UTA)
  29. Michael Porter Jr., Nic Claxton, Egor Demin (BRK)
  30. CJ McCollum, Bilal Coulibaly, Alex Sarr (WAS)

Oklahoma City’s championship crew was an obvious choice for the top spot. Other contenders make up most of the rest of the top ten. I tentatively placed Philadelphia’s injury-prone banana boat at ten, afraid of discrediting Joel Embiid (editor’s note: have no fear) in the event he remains mostly healthy next season. Milwaukee’s trio of Giannis, Myles Turner, and Kevin Porter Jr. checks in at 16th, right around the middle of the pack. I went with KPJ as the third guy over Kuzma and Trent Jr. because I believe he’ll be a starting guard for most of the season and play a more important creation role than anyone outside of Giannis. The Bucks avoided the bowels of this ranking in large part due to the Greek Freak’s greatness, but also because his synergy with Myles Turner should be exceptional and make up slightly for the fact that Turner is nowhere near the players Middleton and Lillard were for this team. While KPJ is a bit of a wild card, the chances of him having a really productive year are high enough to be cautiously optimistic about what he can do as a lead point guard/secondary shot creator. If Dame were still here, Milwaukee could have been as high as seven or eight, even with Brook Lopez as the third guy instead of Turner. The Giannis-Dame pairing was never fully optimized, but the pure talent there cannot be underestimated. Sigh, what could have been. Anyways, moving on.

Ranking #2: The aggregate


To build this second list, I ranked big threes as the sum of their parts. I first ranked the best, second-best, and third-best players from each team on three separate lists. Then, I averaged out where each team’s top three guys slotted in. For example, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander was third on the best player ranking, Jalen Williams was seventh on the second-best player ranking, and Chet Holmgren was second on the third-best player ranking, good for an average placement of 4.0, which was higher than any other team. Here’s the full list:

  1. Oklahoma City Thunder (average ranking: 4)
  2. Los Angeles Lakers (4.3)
  3. New York Knicks (5.7)
  4. Cleveland Cavaliers (6.3)
  5. Los Angeles Clippers (7)
  6. Minnesota Timberwolves (8)
  7. Philadelphia 76ers (8.7)
  8. Orlando Magic (9.7)
  9. Denver Nuggets (10.7)
  10. Houston Rockets (11.3)
  11. Dallas Mavericks (11.3)
  12. Atlanta Hawks (11.3)
  13. San Antonio Spurs (11.7)
  14. Golden State Warriors (12)
  15. Sacramento Kings (15)
  16. New Orleans Pelicans (15.3)
  17. Milwaukee Bucks (17)
  18. Toronto Raptors (17.3)
  19. Boston Celtics (18.7)
  20. Memphis Grizzlies (19)
  21. Miami Heat (19)
  22. Phoenix Suns (20.3)
  23. Detroit Pistons (20.7)
  24. Charlotte Hornets (21)
  25. Indiana Pacers (23.3)
  26. Portland Trail Blazers (24.7)
  27. Chicago Bulls (26.7)
  28. Utah Jazz (27.3)
  29. Washington Wizards (28.3)
  30. Brooklyn Nets (29.3)

This list doesn’t differ much from my more holistic one, but teams with multiple All-Star caliber players certainly had an advantage. The Bucks fall in at 17th, with Giannis dragging up that average significantly, as he ranked second behind Jokic on the best players totem pole. Myles Turner was 24th amongst second-best players, right behind Nikola Vucevic, Jalen Green, Miles Bridges, and Derrick White, and ahead of Jrue Holiday, Jaden Ivey, and Andrew Nembhard. In my head, I had KPJ as perhaps the worst third-best player in the league, but after parsing things out I ended up placing him 25th, ahead of Santi Aldama, Keyonte George, Alex Sarr, Matas Buzelis, and Egor Demin (it’s worth noting here that Josh Giddey and Cam Thomas were not included in this exercise as they aren’t yet signed, resulting in the Buzelis and Demin inclusions). The unsurprising bottom line here is that Giannis makes this team look a whole lot better.

Final analysis: Can Milwaukee contend with their big three?​


I’ll just rip the band-aid off here: As their roster currently stands, the Milwaukee Bucks won’t be true championship contenders next season. That’s probably not a hot take, but it’s an unfortunate reality. There just isn’t a world where Myles Turner and Kevin Porter Jr. (or Bobby Portis, Kyle Kuzma, etc) can be the second and third most important players on a title team. It’s true that the NBA has moved away from the superteam era and placed more emphasis on depth, but still, none of the solidified top teams (OKC, both LA teams, Cleveland, etc) have just one star leading the show. The Bucks do have a quality group of role players, and could make the second round on the back of Giannis, but their current big three just won’t be enough for them to do it big.

Source: https://www.brewhoop.com/bucks-anal...is-antetokounmpo-myles-turner-kevin-porter-jr
 
Bucks Schedule Release Reaction

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The Milwaukee Bucks’ schedule is officially out, as the team and the league as a whole have released the entire slate of games for the 2025-26 NBA Season. We already knew ahead of time that the Bucks wouldn’t be playing on opening night or Christmas Day, thanks to ESPN’s Shams Charania (later confirmed by the league), and that they had a game against the Atlanta Hawks on Martin Luther King Jr. Day, but now we know when all 82 games of the Bucks season will happen. Here are the highlights:

Opening Night​


It will be a potentially emotional opening night for the Bucks, as for the first time since he was traded last season, Khris Middleton will be coming to Fiserv Forum with the Washington Wizards. The game is scheduled for Wednesday, October 22, at 7:00 p.m. CST. Their next four games are split between the road and at home, as they’ll travel to Toronto to play the Raptors on the 24th (6:30 p.m. Central) and the Cleveland Cavaliers (5:00 p.m. Central) on the 26th. They’ll return to Milwaukee for two more games to play the New York Knicks on the 28th at 7:00 p.m., and then the Golden State Warriors on the 30th at 7:00 p.m. That game against the Knicks will be broadcast on NBC, with the NBA switching to NBC and Amazon Prime after their contract with TNT fell through.

NEWS: The Milwaukee #Bucks will open the 2025 season at home with a reunion against Khris Middleton and the Washington Wizards on Oct. 22 at 7:00 p.m. CST.

Jackson Gross (@jgrossreporter.bsky.social) 2025-08-14T19:19:10.108Z

Myles Turner Returns Home​


In the most shocking move of the off-season, Myles Turner signed with the Milwaukee Bucks after Damian Lillard’s contract was stretched and waived to make salary cap space for the move. Turner has seemingly gotten a lot of flak from Pacers fans and players for the move, and he won’t have to wait long to see them again. After the calendar flips to November and they play the Sacramento Kings on the 1st, the Bucks will travel to Indianapolis to play the Pacers on Nov. 3 at 6:00 p.m. CST. The Bucks then play the Pacers again on the road on Dec. 23, before playing the Pacers at Fiserv Forum on February 6th and March 15th (for the second year in a row).

Repeat for the Cup​


The Bucks will start their Emirates NBA Cup title defense on Friday, November 7, at 7:00 p.m. at home against the Chicago Bulls. If you missed it, the Bucks will be part of Group C in the East, with the Bulls, Knicks, Miami Heat, and Charlotte Hornets joining them. Their second game of the In-Season Tournament will be one week later against the Hornets at home on Nov. 14. Their two road games of their NBA Cup group play will probably be the more difficult of the two, as they will travel to Miami to play the Heat the Wednesday before Thanksgiving (Nov. 26) and then the Knicks at Madison Sqaure Garden on Black Friday (their first on Amazon Prime).

If the Bucks make the knockout stage of the tournament, the first date for that would be Dec. 9th or 10th. If they are knocked out in the opening round, they will return to the regular season as early as Dec. 11th. The full knockout stage culminates in the title game on Dec. 16.

The Bucks begin their defense of the NBA Cup Title on Nov. 7 against the Chicago Bulls. Then they will play the Charlotte Hornets on Nov. 14 at Fiserv Forum before they have back-to-back NBA Cup games against the Miami Heat and the Knicks on Nov. 26 and 28th, respectively.

Jackson Gross (@jgrossreporter.bsky.social) 2025-08-14T20:49:11.364Z

First Big Road Trip​


After the NBA Cup wraps up, they have a home game against the Raptors on Dec. 18, before their first major road trip of the season, playing five games on the road in eight days. It’s a mostly Midwest trip, with the Minnesota Timberwolves on Dec. 21, the Pacers on the 23rd, the Memphis Grizzlies and the Chicago Bulls in a back-to-back on the 26th and 27th, before heading to Charlotte to play the Hornets on the 29th.

After the NBA Cup ends on Dec. 16, the Bucks will play one game at home against the Toronto Raptors, and then play five games in eight days on the road: 12/21: Timberwolves12/23: Pacers12/26: Grizzlies12/27: Bulls12/29: Hornets

Jackson Gross (@jgrossreporter.bsky.social) 2025-08-14T20:49:11.383Z

Holiday Games​


As mentioned previously, the Bucks will not be participating on Christmas for the second straight season. Yet, the NBA didn’t completely leave them out of the holiday games, with them playing on three of them throughout the year. Outside of the Black Friday game against the Knicks, they will also host the Washington Wizards for a New Year’s Eve game at 7:00 p.m. CST. The last holiday game they get is on Martin Luther King Jr. Day on the road against the Atlanta Hawks on Jan. 19. Tip-off for that game is scheduled for Noon Central and will be streamed on Peacock.

Holiday Games:Black Friday (Nov. 28): New York Knicks (Amazon Prime)New Year's Eve: Washington WizardsMLK Day (Jan. 19): Atlanta Hawks

Jackson Gross (@jgrossreporter.bsky.social) 2025-08-14T20:49:11.403Z

Two West Coast Trips​


After that game on NYE against the Wizards and the game on Jan. 2 against the Hornets, the Bucks will embark on their first west coast road trip of the season, playing six games in nine days, starting on Jan. 4 against the Sacramento Kings. The other five will be against the Golden State Warriors on ESPN on Jan. 7, the Los Angeles Lakers on Jan. 9, the Denver Nuggets on Jan. 11, and a pit stop at home to play the Timberwolves on Jan. 13 on NBC, before heading back west to play the San Antonio Spurs on Jan. 15 (the 5th time Giannis and Wemby would potentially matchup, provided Wembanyama’s blood clots).

West Coast Trip #1:Jan. 4: Sacramento Kings. Jan. 7: Golden State Warriors (ESPN), Jan. 9: Los Angeles Lakers Jan. 11: Denver NuggetsJan. 13 (Home): Minnesota Timberwolves (NBC) Jan. 15: San Antonio Spur

Jackson Gross (@jgrossreporter.bsky.social) 2025-08-14T20:49:11.421Z

The second of those two trips will be a quick four-game excursion, with the Utah Jazz on Mar. 19, the Phoenix Suns on Mar. 21, the Los Angeles Clippers on Mar. 23, and the Portland Trail Blazers on Mar. 25 (Jrue and the Blazers will visit Milwaukee on Nov. 24).

West Coast Trip #2: Mar. 19: Utah Jazz Mar. 21: Phoenix SunsMar. 23: Los Angeles Clippers on Mar. 23 Mar. 25: Portland Trail Blazers (Jrue and the Blazers will visit Milwaukee on Nov. 24).

Jackson Gross (@jgrossreporter.bsky.social) 2025-08-14T20:49:11.441Z

Some Good Home Cooking​


Towards the end of February and the beginning of March, the Bucks will have nine home games in a 10-game stretch, with their lone road game coming against the Chicago Bulls on Mar. 1. Eight of those games will be against Eastern Conference foes, including what’s projected to be the top of the conference in the Cavaliers (Feb. 25), the Knicks (Feb. 27), the Hawks (Mar. 4), and the Orlando Magic (Mar. 8).

Home Cooking: Feb. 22: Toronto RaptorsFeb. 24: Miami HeatFeb. 25: Cleveland CavaliersFeb. 27: New York KnicksMar. 1 (Road): Chicago BullsMar. 2: Boston CelticsMar. 4: Atlanta HawksMar. 7: Utah JazzMar. 8: Orlando MagicMar. 10: Phoenix Suns

Jackson Gross (@jgrossreporter.bsky.social) 2025-08-14T20:49:11.463Z

The End of the Season​


Three of the final four games for the Bucks’ regular season will be on the road, with the Brooklyn Nets on April 7th and the Detroit Pistons on ESPN on April 8. Their regular-season home finale will be on April 10 against the Nets, before traveling to the City of Brotherly Love to play the Philadelphia 76ers on April 12.

End of Season: April 7 (Road): Brooklyn NetsApril 8 (Road): Detroit Pistons (ESPN)April 10 (Home Finale): Brooklyn NetsApril 12 (Season Finale): Philadelphia 76ers

Jackson Gross (@jgrossreporter.bsky.social) 2025-08-14T20:49:11.485Z

Source: https://www.brewhoop.com/bucks-news/49981/milwaukee-bucks-schedule-release-reaction
 
Nearly 20 years of collecting cards

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All is quiet on the Western front, with the Milwaukee Bucks roster all but finalized, outside of some pending training camp drama. Although there may not be much to discuss at present, there are other ways to stay involved in the sport we all love. For me, that’s the joy of collecting cards.

It all started when I was seven years old, as a wide-eyed Chicago Cubs fan (editor’s note: Go Brewers!) who was excited about getting a team set of that 2007 squad. I even had a binder with a front page that could only be described as “graphic design is my passion:” rainbow letters with a drop shadow and a Cubs logo at the bottom to boot. That measly start began a lifelong passion that has gone through its waves (less so now with rent and bills to pay). Yet, through my own gift money and the kindness of those closest to me, I have slowly built my collection of sports cards, which has grown to over 3,000 total cards.

Although I’d love to go over every card and talk about a 2007 Topps Upper Deck Aaron Harang card from his days on the Cincinnati Reds or a 1981 Fleer Bob Stanley (pitcher for the Boston Red Sox), a) this article would be full fledged series lasting weeks if not months and b) this is a basketball website. I have a suspicion that most of you readers out here would be more interested in the legendary hoopers I’ve tucked away in plastic casings. Much to the chagrin of one of our editors, Morgan, I will not be chopping these little wonders and using them in my waffle sandwiches for breakfast (long story). Instead, I will share what I have with the rest of you. Without further ado, here are all the former and current Bucks who reside in my card collection.

Bucks Legends​


I wouldn’t be doing my job as your new beat writer if I didn’t write this article about the players who have worn green, cream, and maybe even red. Of the 162 basketball cards I have (yes, my collection is heavily slanted towards baseball), 19 of them are current or former Milwaukee Bucks’ players. I’ll split them up into three different eras to define their part of Bucks history:

Pre-Giannis Era​


It’s hard to think of a time for the Bucks before the generational talent of Giannis Antetokounmpo graced the courts of Milwaukee. Yet, there are some gems to be found in looking back at the BBG (Bucks Before Giannis). Of the 19 Bucks cards I started with, five of them are of the prestigious BBG group. Starting with the earliest player I have, we go back to the eighth overall pick from the 1993 NBA draft and current Bucks assistant coach Vin Baker.

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This card was made after Baker’s fourth season in the league, coming off his third All-Star appearance. In 78 games, Baker averaged 21 points, 10.3 rebounds, and made the All-NBA Third Team. This would end up being his last season with Milwaukee, as a trade sent him to Seattle to replace Shawn Kemp (shipped off to the Cleveland Cavaliers in the deal). The Bucks finished 33-49, 11 games behind the Washington Bullets for the 8th seed, and 21 back of the Charlotte Hornets, who finished fourth in the Central Division. Looking back on it now, he was one of the most underrated Bucks players of all time.

Staying in the 20th century, we have a player who had yet to play for the Bucks: New Jersey Nets guard Sam Cassell (and who, by some reports, was almost a Bucks assistant coach).

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This card came in a year when Cassell played for three different teams in one season, starting with the Phoenix Suns before being traded to the Dallas Mavericks in December. He finally made his way to the Nets in February of 1997, in the deal that sent Shawn Bradley and Robert Pack (among others) to the Mavericks for Cassell, Jim Jackson, and three other players. Cassell eventually got to Milwaukee near the turn of the millennium in 1999 in a three-team, three-player trade, with Stephon Marbury going to the Nets and Terrell Brandon to the Minnesota Timberwolves.

I couldn’t believe that I almost missed a top-5 player in Milwaukee Bucks history during my search. The other half that made up that backcourt with Cassell was the former UConn Huskie Ray Allen (pictured here much later in his career with the Miami Heat).

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The Bucks traded for Allen on draft night in 1997. He spent 6 1/2 seasons with the Bucks and blossomed into an All-Star level player. He made three All-Star teams and the All-NBA third team in 2000-01, the same year that he led Milwaukee to the conference finals. It was their first conference finals appearance since 1986 and helped the Bucks win their first conference finals game since 1984. His tenure ended in the middle of the 2002-03 season, when he, Kevin Ollie, Ronlad Murray, and a conditional first round pick were sent to the Seattle SuperSonics for Gary Payton and Desmond Mason.

The next three are all players who just missed out on playing with Giannis and were part of those early 2010s squads before he was drafted there. Andrew Bogut was the No. 1 overall pick back in the 2005 draft and was supposed to be the superstar the Bucks were looking for, but he never even made an All-Star game in his 14-year career. Bogut departed Milwaukee heading into the 2012 season, where he would win a title with the Golden State Warriors (the card here is from the season before that). Next up, we have Giannis’ favorite player ever, Mike Dunleavy. Dunleavy spent two years in Milwaukee as part of his Central Division Tour, playing with the Indiana Pacers before that and the Chicago Bulls and Cleveland Cavaliers after that time. The last one here is Carlos Delfino. The Argentine forward had a relatively short NBA career, playing eight seasons before injuries derailed his second stint with the Bucks when he signed with them in 2013. Despite that, his best ball came with the Bucks from 2009-2012 where he averaged 10.6 PPG, 4.5 RPG, 2.5 APG, and 1.3 SPG, shooting 40.1% from the field and 36.6% from three-point range.

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Pre-Title Era​


The largest part of my Bucks collection comes from the players who made up the squads that didn’t quite reach the mountain top, with a couple of exceptions (which we’ll get to soon enough). Of the 19 I have, nine of them come from this era between 2013-2020 while Giannis and the Bucks rose from an irrelevant franchise to a perrnial title contender.

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Startine with the earliest player in this crop, Ersan Ilyasova was the prototypical stretch four who played in Milwaukee in 2006 before spending two years overseas to come back to play in 2009 at 22-years-old. He spent six seasons with the Bucks before making a return tour for two seasons in 2018 and 2019. I don’t really have to say much about the legend that was Tony Snell in Milwaukee; his zero statline will live forever in meme history. George Hill and Malcom Brogdon brought steady point guard play before Jrue Holiday and Damian Lillard made their way to the Cream City. Then we have a couple of guys who spent their final years in the NBA with the Bucks, sharpshooters Kyle Korver and Steve Novak (now a rotational color-commentator and analyst for Fan Duel Sports Network Wisconsin for Bucks games). We also have Giannis’ fellow 2013 draft class member in Nate Wolters who spent a year and a half with the Bucks in his four year NBA career.

Now for those exceptions I was talking about. Obvisouly, Brook Lopez was an integral piece of the Bucks title run and the culture under Mike Budenholzer. Brook spent seven seasons in Milwaukee after a one year stay with the Los Angeles Lakers in the D’Angelo Russell trade. Now Brook finds himself back in LA, as the backup to Ivica Zubac with the Clippers. The other one is Wesley Matthews, who spent 2019-20 with the Bucks and then returned the year after the title run in 2022-23. A reliable 3&D player, Matthews became a fan favorite for some of his clutch buckets.

Current Era​


We now come to the modern era of Bucks basketball. There are only four players to go over in this mix. My absolute pride and joy is, of course, my Giannis rookie card. I’m going to hold onto this card for as long as I can, simply for the bragging rights of having a Giannis rookie card. I can’t remember when I got this, but it was safe to say I was more excited about getting LeBron James and Dirk Nowitzki than some random dude named Giannis. The last three cards here are all players who just played with the Bucks last season. Of course Damian Lillard was the big trade aqusition prior to the 2023 season, while Kyle Kuzma and Kevin Porter Jr. were acquired at this past year’s trade deadline.

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I want to thank you all for taking a trip down memory lane with me as we looked through the Bucks in my basketball card collection. Let me know what cards you all have in your stockpiles in the comments below. I’d love to connect with my fellow collectors.

Source: https://www.brewhoop.com/bucks-features-profiles/48419/milwaukee-bucks-card-collection
 
Trust Me: A Bucks Story

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OVER BLACK:

The sound of a clock ticking.

FADE IN:

INT. BUCKS HQ — OFFICE — AFTERNOON

JON (41, general manager) sits at a desk, tie pulled loose, bags under his eyes. Papers are scrawled across the desktop, names crossed out in red ink. He sips at a coffee, sets it down. Runs his hands through his hair, knuckles white. The clock continues TICKING, the hour hand approaching 3. Jon gets up, paces back and forth, eyes darting to the clock. Then, out of the corner of his eye, a flash—the phone. He picks it up.

JON

So?

VOICE (O.S.)

Okay… it’s a deal.

CUT TO:

MONTAGE — KEVIN PORTER JR. PLAYING FOR THE BUCKS

  • Receives a handoff, takes 3 dribbles, and hits a 17-foot jump shot against Golden State—his first as a Buck.
  • Knocks down two free throws to complete a triple-double in a blowout win versus Dallas.
  • Splashes five threes against the Lakers. Another W.
  • Goes full NBA Street in overtime at Miami: splits the double, spins through the lane, and floats in a tough game-sealer. 28, 12, and 8. Dub.
  • Turns Super Saiyan in the fourth against Minnesota—four steals, a flurry of dunks, a 24-point comeback win. Turns to Jon, who nods, smiles. He knows.
  • Finishes with 16, 4, and 7 in a win against Detroit to cap a seven-game win streak and secure the fifth seed.

INT. BUCKS HQ — OFFICE — NIGHT

It’s months later. The playoffs have come and gone. BROOK LOPEZ (geriatric, legend) has left for Los Angeles, ESPN regurgitates the annual “Giannis wants out” headlines. Jon is pacing, phone to his ear.

JON

He can handle it.

VOICE (O.S.)

But—

JON

Fourteen, five, and five. Fifty, forty, eighty-five. Nine and four record.

VOICE (O.S.)

Are you sure about this? What about the playoffs?

A beat.

JON

(calmly, firmly)

Trust me.

VOICE (O.S.)

Okay.

INT. COFFEE SHOP — THE NEXT MORNING

The hum of constant movement—the clink of the doorbell, an espresso machine pulling a shot, indistinguishable chatter—eddies throughout the shop. Customers sit, sipping at their drinks, scrolling through their phones. Workers scurry between tables, stacking plates and mugs. Then, a DING. And another.

CUSTOMER

No way…

The dings continue—hands and eyes move frantically to the notification.

SILENCE.

INSERT — PHONE SCREEN:

A post from Shams Charania:

“Just in: The Milwaukee Bucks are waiving Damian Lillard and stretching the remaining $113 million on his contract in order to acquire Myles Turner.”

INT. BUCKS HQ — OFFICE — MORNING

Jon stands at his office window, watching a robin flit from one curbside tree to the next. The city’s waking up—traffic rolls, street lamps cede to the morning sun. He basks in the light, then moves to his desk. It’s clear—no papers, no names. He reaches for his phone, dials.

JON

You know now?

KEVIN (O.S.)

I know. I’m ready.

INT. FISERV FORUM — OPENING NIGHT

It’s a packed house, fans cheer and dance, trying to get on the jumbotron. On the court, an OFFICIAL (50s) throws the jump ball. MYLES (29, refreshed) wins the tip. The ball finds A.J. (26, starting 3), who hands it off to GIANNIS (30, Buck for life). The crowd stands, applauding their hero. Giannis crosses half-court, sets the play, and swings the ball to KEVIN (25, reborn), who catches it on the wing.

GIANNIS

Get to work!

Kevin palms the ball behind his back, surveying the defense. He scans the sideline, sees Jon—arms folded, tie centred and tight. They NOD.

Kevin calls for Myles to screen, then uses it to snake downhill to the free-throw line. He slams on the brakes, crosses over—his defender on his heels—steps back, and rises up. Courtside cameras flash as he fades in slow motion, extends his elbow, and cocks his wrist. The ball releases from his fingertips, spins through the air and—

SMASH TO BLACK

TITLE CARD:

“2025–26: The Rebirth”

Source: https://www.brewhoop.com/bucks-feat...rust-me-milwaukee-bucks-story-kevin-porter-jr
 
Bucks sign Amir Coffey to training camp deal

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In the doldrums of summer, a flicker of life: the Milwaukee Bucks have signed Amir Coffey to a training camp (Exhibit 10) deal, per Eric Nehm.

Let’s start with the man himself. Coffey spent his first six seasons with the Los Angeles Clippers, where he averaged about 10 points a game on 47% shooting (including 41% from deep) last year. Still, his playing time dipped a bit in the playoffs and his scoring dropped more than a bit. The former Golden Gopher became a free agent after his three-year, $11m contract expired.

His on-court fit with Milwaukee is relatively clear: he is a 3, which the Bucks do not have in spades. At 6’ 8” and 210 pounds, the hope is that he can be a Taurean Prince with a little less offense and a little more defense. Per our own Van Fayaz back in June, he “may still have some untapped starter upside”, although at 28 he may have hit his (respectable) ceiling.

Things get a bit dicey off the court. Milwaukee currently has 14 guaranteed contracts, with AJax and Thanasis viewed as leading contenders for that final slot. Since Coffey received a training camp deal, there is no guarantee that he will make the roster, but he immediately becomes a strong candidate for that spot. Drama!

I won’t conclude this article by making a pun about Coffey being a perfect fit for Cream City. I won’t.

Source: https://www.brewhoop.com/bucks-free...kee-bucks-sign-amir-coffey-training-camp-deal
 
Pay Bango you cowards

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I know what you’re thinking.

“Isn’t this the guy who campaigned against Bango just last year?”

Yes. Yes it is.

I’ve spent the past year fixated on NBA mascots. More specifically, I’ve spent the past year fixated on NBA mascot salaries. In doing so, it came to my attention that Bango was not among the top five most paid NBA mascots in 2023.

It’s fair game for me, a Bucks fan, to pick on Bango. But for the economic landscape of the NBA to render that judgment? Not okay.

So what follows is my case for Bango to be given a raise.

Mascots are underpaid in general​


The report cited above notes that the average mascot brings in about $60K annually. Although I acknowledge that such a salary is more than several professions it should not outpace, allow me to humbly suggest that teams worth billions of dollars should spill a little more liquid.

Being a mascot involves both quantity and quality of work. Bango makes over 250 community appearances every year. You can book him yourself using this form! On the court, Bango doubles as a gymnast wearing a full-body suit. It’s so physical that Kevin Vanderkolk, who was Bango from 2001-02 to 2013-14, tore his ACL twice: once while falling through the hoop at the 2009 All-Star Game and once while working on a 360 dunk skateboarding off a ramp.

What’s more, the top five mascots in the above report are only one-time recipients of the famed Mascot of the Year award. Acknowledging that the person inside the mascot changes, multi-time award-winners like Jazz Bear (3), Clutch (3), Stuff the Magic Dragon (2), and the Coyote (2) make less than the top five—only five digits.

Who awards the Mascot of the Year award, you ask? The mascots themselves at their annual conference, which debuted perhaps-not-coincidentally the year I was born. I humbly and humorously suggest that they devote less of their time to navel-gazing and more of their time to unionizing.

Some mascots make BANK​


Let’s return to the top five. Top of the list is Rocky the Mountain Lion, who earns—wait for it—$625K (!). And Harry the Hawk is right behind at $600K. Keen Brew Hoopers may recognize that he shares his name with the only actor onstage when Lincoln was shot, so maybe he’s worth it. Third place goes to our I-94 rival Benny the Bull, who makes $400K. Next up is Go the Gorilla at $200K. The top five concludes with Hugo the Hornet at $100K.

It’s frankly insulting that Benny the Bull makes more than Bango. The Bucks have beaten the Bulls on almost every count as of late; it wouldn’t cost the Haslams all that much for a clean sweep. And Go the Gorilla? After the Bucks won their championship with a Suns fan counting hundos during Giannis’ free throws? Humiliating. And then there’s Charlotte.

I have nothing against Rocky the Mountain Lion, but look at these mile-high rates!

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I don’t care if Bango’s Mascot of the Year award was suspiciously handed out the year after he first tore his ACL. His pity trophy still pits him as equal to the rest of these folks.

Bango USED to make bank​


In 2010, HBO’s Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel put a spotlight on Vanderkolk (i.e., Bango). It was stated that he made “healthy six figures,” with $250K raised as an example.

Vanderkolk certainly deserved it. He was the inaugural winner of Cartoon Network’s Most Awesome Mascot award (defeating Go the Gorilla, cough cough). He had to wear the infamous Air Bango suit. And he did the below on his first attempt in Game 4 of the 2010 Playoffs, having picked up the ladder on the way to the game:

I have less evidence that the current Bango deserves it, although I’ll make my case next. But you’re telling me that a mascot who made THAT MUCH in 2010 is making less than half of that in 2025? That’s right: LED hated Bango, and I won’t stand for it.

Current Bango deserves it​


Again, the person inside the mascot changes over time. I’m sure seniority is responsible in part for the variation in mascot salary, although I doubt that fully explains why Rocky makes 10 times the average for his profession. In other words, HED (?) has wiggle room to pay Bango. I don’t know who Bango is currently, although I would certainly appreciate any leads in the comments.

But that doesn’t mean he doesn’t deserve it. Bango has been active, with a behind-the-back half-court shot at the 2017 All-Star Game, an ESPN commercial with Giannis in 2018, and a skit with the Manitowoc Minute’s own Charlie Berens in 2021. More money for Bango translates to better in-game entertainment and more community involvement, both wins for the Bucks.

All told, the Bucks should live up to their name and pay Bango what he is owed.

Source: https://www.brewhoop.com/bucks-features-profiles/49635/pay-milwaukee-bucks-mascot-bango-you-cowards
 
The chapter of errors, part IV: 15 biggest mistakes by the Milwaukee Bucks (2002–2025)

6. The Chinese Dragon turned into a lizard: drafting Yi Jianlian with the 6th Pick (2007)

A year before drafting Joe Alexander, the Bucks made another draft blunder—only this one had a global dimension. In 2007, riding on the success of Yao Ming in the NBA, more and more clubs looked greedily at the Chinese market and Chinese talent (also, see Jang Hansen 2025). As luck would have it, Yi Jianlian declared for the draft—a 19-year-old (allegedly) power forward, standing 7’0″, who could also play center, with a decent mid-range shot. The Chinese press hailed him as Yao’s successor, even though he played a different position—because the hype in China was enormous: Yi dominated the youth CBA league, had athleticism and a skillset rarely seen in Chinese big men. US analysts, however, had many doubts: firstly—the level of the Chinese league was difficult to compare with NCAA or Europe; secondly—Yi was reluctant to showcase himself to scouts. His agent (the famous Dan Fegan) was selective: Yi conducted private workouts only for chosen top clubs from large cities (LA, Chicago, Boston), and others—including Milwaukee—were deliberately not invited. Indeed, Yi’s camp openly warned against drafting him if you were a small market. The guy didn’t want to end up in a place without a Chinese community and where he wouldn’t benefit marketing-wise. Milwaukee was probably at the top of the “undesirable” list—small city, cold, no Asian community.

The Bucks, however, had a different perspective. They had the #6 pick and needed a talented big man. In that draft, top prospects were Greg Oden, Kevin Durant (obviously out of reach), then Al Horford, Mike Conley, Jeff Green—those five went before Milwaukee. Yi and a few others remained (Joakim Noah, Corey Brewer, Brandan Wright). Most American experts predicted the Bucks should take Noah—a fresh two-time NCAA champion from Florida, an energizer, a defender, an ideal partner for Bogut under the basket. Noah, however, had a colorful personality and some offensive shortcomings; perhaps they feared trouble. There was also a rumor that the Bucks owner, Senator Herb Kohl, saw a marketing opportunity in Yi—after all, having the second Chinese player after Yao in the NBA meant potential access to millions of fans in Asia, sponsorship contracts, etc. Legend has it that for the draft, the Bucks even hired a Chinese translator and had everything figured out on how to sell Milwaukee to Chinese fans.

And so they picked Yi Jianlian with the 6th pick. Reactions: Chinese media went wild with joy, American media—with a mix of surprise and mockery. Indeed, Yi and his agent were not thrilled. A telenovela began: Yi Jianlian for over two months refused to sign a contract with the Bucks. His side argued that Milwaukee “did not meet his basketball and marketing needs.” The Bucks sent a delegation to China to convince him—Senator Kohl himself went, reportedly meeting with representatives of the Chinese federation and Yi’s club. It was even said that NBA authorities had to quietly pressure them because the situation was dangerous (if Yi had backed out, it would have been a precedent for a foreign player’s rebellion). Ultimately, in late August 2007, Yi relented and signed the contract. A sigh of relief and success was declared: the Bucks have their dragon!

Unfortunately, it quickly became apparent that the dragon was more of a lizard. Yi started the season decently—Skiles (the coach) even gave him significant minutes as a power forward alongside Bogut. He had flashes: in December, he was even named Rookie of the Month once (20 pts and 7 reb in December—mainly due to one big game of 29 pts against the Knicks). He also had a duel with Yao Ming, a highly publicized game televised to China, where Yi scored 19 points and grabbed 9 rebounds—impressive for a rookie (although the Rockets still won, and Yao had his own numbers). Chinese fans followed Yi’s every move; the Bucks’ viewership in China soared—at one point, it was said that 200 million people watched the Bucks-Rockets game in China! Marketing success, seemingly.

But sportingly—a flop. Yi looked worse with each passing month. His stats: he finished the season with averages of 8.6 points, 5.2 rebounds, 42% shooting, and a dismal 29% from three. After the All-Star break, he faded (as rookies from other continents often do). He also sustained a wrist injury, missing many games. His defense was poor; he was easily pushed around (he weighed perhaps 240 lbs at 7’0″), and on offense, he liked the mid-range but did nothing exceptionally. Such a reminder that Bucks had young Ersan İlyasova (from the 2005 draft)—although Ersan was still in Europe then, when he returned a year later, he proved to be better than Yi.

And here’s a curious fact: Milwaukee stuck with Yi… for only one year. After his rookie season, they decided to cut their losses and, using his residual hype, traded him. In the summer of 2008, the Bucks traded Yi Jianlian and Bobby Simmons to the New Jersey Nets for Richard Jefferson. This was a “win now” move—Jefferson was supposed to bring experience and scoring (which he partly did). New Jersey, meanwhile, wanted to tap into the Chinese market, so they eagerly took Yi. For the Bucks, this was essentially an admission of error quite quickly. Yi himself played a bit more for the Nets for two seasons (11 pts and 6 reb in 2009/10—nothing great), then had brief stints with the Wizards and Mavericks before disappearing from the NBA after four years. The Chinese Kevin Durant—as he was maliciously called—turned out to be a bust. There was a lot of controversy regarding his age: some sources discovered that he might have been 2-3 years older than reported (allegedly born in 1987, but school documents suggested 1984). If true, the Bucks, by drafting him at age 19, were actually taking a 22-year-old—a smaller margin for development. To this day, it remains a mystery (though after returning to China, Yi played long and well, so who knows about that age).

Looking at who they could have had in 2007: Joakim Noah (#9), Thaddeus Young (#12)—a solid forward for over a decade, Al Thornton (#14)—he was also a bust, Rodney Stuckey (#15)—a decent combo guard, Nick Young (#16)—a shooter, Marc Gasol (#48)—the biggest steal, though no one drafted him that high because he was heavy then, but still an All-Star and DPOY in his career. And in the top 10 were Horford (#3) and Conley (#4), but they went earlier. Would Noah have been better for the Bucks? Probably yes, because he became a 2x All-Star, DPOY, the heart of the Bulls. Imagine a Noah-Bogut frontcourt—defensively superb, though offense would have suffered. But they probably would have traded him in the future anyway, doesn’t matter.

The fact is, Yi Jianlian is one of the biggest draft blunders for the Bucks because they picked him somewhat against their own instinct (the agent says “no,” they say “oh yes, we will!”) and against perhaps better available talents. They naively hoped to find another Dirk Nowitzki (since he’s white, tall with a shot, why not), and they got another Nikoloz Tskitishvili (who remembers—bust #5 from 2002). The only plus—thanks to this story, the Bucks became popular in China for a year. But what good was that if it didn’t translate into wins?

Yi lands at number 6 on our list—because although statistically slightly better than Joe Alexander, the expectations and turmoil surrounding him were so immense that the scale of disappointment was equally huge. To this day, older Bucks fans recall with a smirk: “We could have had Noah, but we took the guy who dueled with a chair”. The Bucks learned then that the draft is not the place to build a fan base in Asia—here, you need to pick players who want to play for you and fit the team.

5. The pick went up in smoke: the disastrous Greivis Vásquez trade (2015)

Some mistakes are so incomprehensible that fans still scratch their heads asking, “Seriously, did that happen?” Here’s one of them. The 2015 Draft, Barclays Center, Brooklyn. The Bucks are fresh off their aforementioned successful 41-41 season, have a young team, and a first-round pick, around number 17. With such a pick, you’re usually hunting for a prospect to develop, maybe a shooter, maybe a big man—plenty of options. Suddenly, news of a trade breaks: the Milwaukee Bucks are trading their first-round pick (#17) and a second-round pick (#46) to the Toronto Raptors, in exchange for point guard Greivis Vásquez.

Bucks fans: consternation. Greivis Vásquez? That tall Venezuelan guard from the Raptors? Toronto would surely be happy to get rid of him, as they already had Kyle Lowry and younger players. Vásquez, yes, was a decent backup—a few years earlier he had a flash in New Orleans (even averaged 9 assists per game as a starter), but in 2015 his form was already declining, and he lost some minutes with the Raptors. And for him, we’re giving away pick #17 and #46? What the hell…

Unfortunately, it wasn’t a dream. GM John Hammond decided that the Bucks needed an experienced backup point guard and overpaid like a hired hand. Greivis Vásquez landed in Milwaukee, where he was supposed to provide shooting and playmaking off the bench. In theory, he fit the backup role behind Michael Carter-Williams (he could shoot threes, which MCW couldn’t). But reality can be cruel: Vásquez played just 23 games for the Bucks, performing poorly (6 points, 38% from the field), then underwent ankle surgery and… never played for Milwaukee again. In the next season, he tried with the Nets, but again injuries—that was essentially the end of Greivis’s career. So the Bucks traded two picks for 23 games of a mediocre backup.

Alright, what about those picks? Well, here’s the rub: the Toronto Raptors extracted true gifts from Milwaukee. They used pick #46 in 2015 to draft Norman Powell—a dynamic shooting guard who became a valuable rotation player (he shined in his debut, then developed and was an important backup in the Raptors’ 2019 championship run, now a solid scorer averaging over 15 points per game). Even worse—or rather, better for the Raptors—was what they did with pick #17 in 2015. Right after the trade in 2015, the Raptors didn’t use it immediately—it was a protected pick (reportedly a Clippers pick that Milwaukee had previously acquired, with a future realization if it fell appropriately). In any case, in the 2017 draft, the Bucks’ pick (which fell to #23) was used by the Raptors to select OG Anunoby. And OG, as we know today, is one of the best wing defenders in the league, a heck of a player—in 2023, he was even close to the league lead in steals, a consistently solid starter (approx. 15 pts, 5 reb per game, plus elite defense), and was talked about as an All-Defensive Team candidate. So the Raptors got two significant players (Powell and Anunoby), while the Bucks got—nothing.

This trade is often ridiculed even in league-wide rankings of the worst trades of the decade. Greivis Vásquez himself admitted years later that he felt embarrassed to have been traded for such a price. In one interview, he said: “It’s not that I was worth it. It’s just that the Raptors played it well”—obviously appreciating Masai Ujiri (Toronto’s GM), who outsmarted Milwaukee like children. To this day, it’s incomprehensible: why did the Bucks want Vásquez so badly? Other guards were available on the market for cheaper. Did Kidd want him because he liked tall backcourts? Or did Hammond believe Greivis would be the missing piece?

It must be added in context: that summer of 2015 was also when the Bucks tried to make an “accelerated leap”—they signed a large contract with Greg Monroe (not the 10th biggest mistake, because Monroe played well for a year, but didn’t fit the style, that’s another matter), they just acquired Vásquez—generally, they expected to be a strong playoff team. It didn’t work out; the 2015/16 season was disappointing. And assets went to waste.

In our list, this mistake is top 5—specifically, place 5—because it represents the height of poor asset management. You trade the future (picks) for the present, but the present yields nothing. In a casino, they’d say: you lost twice. Powell and OG Anunoby would have been very useful for the Bucks in later years (Powell, for example, played great against them in the 2019 series against the Raptors; OG was injured then, but in 2021, they lacked such a wing). Instead, they had the memory of Vásquez in a green jersey.

It’s also an example of how one small move can hurt for years. When the Raptors celebrated their title in 2019, the Bucks had already been eliminated—and on the podium stood Norman Powell with the trophy and OG (though he didn’t play in the Finals, he received a trophy), both likely thanking Milwaukee for their generosity. And Bucks fans? They’re left with black humor: “If you ever face a decision whether to give away something valuable for next to nothing—think of this trade. And don’t do it.”

4. “Brogdon? No, thank you” – letting go (not paying) Malcolm Brogdon (2019)

Sometimes an NBA club misjudges its priorities and pays for it with a drop in quality. This happened in the summer of 2019 with the Milwaukee Bucks and Malcolm Brogdon. This case is all the more painful because it concerns a very well-liked player, and the background was cost-saving—something fans hate to see at the expense of sporting success.

Let’s recall: Malcolm Brogdon came to the Bucks in 2016 as an underrated rookie from the second round (pick #36). It quickly became clear that he was a draft steal—in his very first season, Brogdon won the 2017 Rookie of the Year award (which is unprecedented for a second-round pick). He didn’t impress with athleticism, but with intelligence, composure, and versatility. In subsequent years, he became an important piece of the puzzle: capable of playing both point guard and shooting guard alongside Giannis and Middleton. He was known for incredible efficiency—in the 2018/19 season, he joined the elite 50-40-90 club (over 50% from the field, 40% from three, 90% from the free-throw line). Brogdon did many small things: smart defense, hitting open threes, driving to the basket (nickname “President”—because he was serious and balanced).

Unfortunately, in 2019, the Bucks reached the conference finals and lost to the Raptors, and Brogdon, due to a foot injury, missed a significant part of those playoffs (he returned only for the Toronto series, but off the bench). In the summer of 2019, he became a restricted free agent. Milwaukee had a problem of riches: almost the entire roster needed new contracts. Giannis was still on his old contract, but Middleton expected a max (he got 5 years/$178M), Brook Lopez a new deal (he got 4 years/$52M), plus role players. The owners clearly signaled: we can exceed the tax threshold, but no extravagances. The mistake was that they considered keeping Brogdon an “extravagance.”

The Bucks had Brogdon’s Bird rights; they could match any offer. Brogdon was expecting around $20M annually—a lot, but given his quality, not surprising. Meanwhile, the Bucks had quietly agreed on a plan before the free agency window opened: they would send Brogdon to the Indiana Pacers in a sign-and-trade for a draft pick and two second-rounders (something like “better something than nothing”). The Pacers, of course, gladly gave him 4 years/$85M. Milwaukee received a 2020 first-round pick (which ultimately was quite low, #24—it eventually became R.J. Hampton in other trades, effectively nothing).

In this way, the Bucks chose Eric Bledsoe over Brogdon. Because it’s worth mentioning—in March 2019 (a few months earlier), they made another questionable decision: they gave Bledsoe (who was having a great regular season) a 4-year/$70M extension, right before the playoffs. Then, in the playoffs, Bledsoe disappointed again (shot terribly against the Raptors), and Brogdon—though returning from injury—played well. It seemed clear: Bledsoe was an offensive problem, Brogdon would be useful. However, the contract had already gone to Bledsoe, and that likely made them unwilling to spend on expensive Brogdon financially. The result: the Bucks kept the cheaper Bledsoe, let Brogdon go. The money added up, the talent not so much.

The 2019/20 season showed the consequences. Yes, Milwaukee still dominated the regular season (best NBA record). But something was missing—Brogdon’s shooting and playmaking. Bledsoe still defended excellently, but offensively, he remained limited (inaccurate shot, poor decisions). In the 2020 playoffs, disaster struck—a second-round loss to the Miami Heat (4-1). One of the key reasons was the lack of a third reliable shooter and ballhandler besides Giannis and Middleton. Bledsoe played a terrible series (averaging 11 points, 33% from the field, left wide open on the perimeter). More than one fan whispered: “Brogdon would be useful now…” Brogdon in Indiana also got eliminated in the bubble (against Miami in the 1st round, the Pacers were swept), but he actually played well (averaging 21 points and 10 assists in that series—he clearly could perform against the Heat).

Overall, Brogdon in the Pacers showed a new level as a primary point guard: in his first season, he averaged 7.1 assists, which in the Bucks with Giannis probably wouldn’t have been needed as much, but he could handle the scoring load. His three-point shooting efficiency dropped (because he took more difficult shots), but in the Bucks, he would have had easier looks and probably still kept his 40% from three.

However, the biggest price the Bucks paid was a year later. Although they won the coveted championship in 2021, the path could have been easier if Brogdon had been on the roster. In the 2021 Conference Finals against Atlanta, Giannis sprained his knee and missed two games—Middleton and Holiday managed, but extra help wouldn’t have hurt. And in the Finals against Phoenix—they won 4-2, Holiday was phenomenal defensively, but inconsistent offensively. Having Brogdon as an additional option then? A dream.

Of course, there’s no room for complaint—they won the championship, helped by a player they brought in for Bledsoe and picks (Jrue Holiday). However, notice that this is why they had to spend huge draft capital—because Bledsoe didn’t meet expectations, he had to be traded (plus 2 first-round picks and a swap) for Holiday. If they had kept Brogdon and, say, moved forward with him and a cheaper guard instead of Bledsoe? Maybe they wouldn’t have had to give up so much. But Holiday is a top defender and leader, so ultimately, it was worthwhile.

Nevertheless, the belief persists in Milwaukee to this day that letting go of Brogdon was a purely cost-saving move that almost cost them the title. The owners did avoid the tax in 2020 (Brogdon would have pushed them deep into it), but in 2021, they paid a lot anyway with Holiday. And fans felt disappointed because Malcolm was a favorite and fit the organization’s culture perfectly: intelligent, humble, hardworking—a true team player. He was even a spiritual leader in the locker room.

Years later, one can say: okay, we managed without him. But as a list of the biggest mistakes, this is high up, because at that moment—first, we didn’t know Holiday would come (that only emerged a year later), second, 2020 was a disaster—it seemed tragic. Many analysts pointed to Brogdon’s absence as one of the main reasons why the Bucks struggled in the playoffs. What’s more, he probably would have stayed if the Bucks had simply written the check. The Pacers gladly gave him what he wanted. And Milwaukee even defended the decision, emphasizing “we want to give Donte DiVincenzo a bigger role” (Brogdon was only a 2nd rounder anyway, easy to find a successor?). Donte was solid, but not in the same class.

So, place 4 on our list—not because Brogdon became a superstar elsewhere (because he didn’t, though he won Sixth Man of the Year in Boston in 2023), but because the Bucks weakened themselves at a moment when they were a step away from the Finals. It’s rare to see a 60-win team trade one of its top 3 players, and a young one at that, without a real replacement, just to avoid paying. Those few million in tax could have cost them dearly. Maybe it didn’t, because Giannis and co. managed with Holiday a year later. But imagine if Giannis hadn’t signed his extension in December 2020 (it was rumored he wanted to see if the club was all-in—letting go of Brogdon was hardly an all-in move). If Giannis had left in 2021 then—the Brogdon case would have been talked about until the end of time.

Phew, they avoided the worst, but the stain remained. Brogdon, by the way, admitted he wanted to stay in Milwaukee but didn’t get an offer. He packed his bags for Indiana with a heavy heart. For a player who gave so much, it must have been upsetting.

In Bucksland, many people to this day would have preferred Bledsoe to leave in the summer of 2019 and Brogdon to stay. Finances, however, are a powerful argument, and unfortunately, fans sometimes witness such unpleasant decisions.

Source: https://www.brewhoop.com/bucks-feat...est-mistakes-by-the-milwaukee-bucks-2002-2025
 
Milwaukee’s problematic path of one-way point guards: Chapter 2

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I’m back for Chapter 2 of this series! If you haven’t already, go back and read Chapter 1, where I first broke down weak link theory and its application to the last three Bucks starting point guards. Then, I took the reader on a trip down memory lane to 2018 when Milwaukee became a truly dominant team, statistically analysing how they became so dominant. Finally, I discussed Eric Bledsoe’s severe offensive struggles in the playoffs, which ultimately led to his ouster. In Chapter 2, I’ll discuss Bledsoe’s replacement, Jrue Holiday, and his offensive struggles in the postseason. I’ll also statistically analyse Milwaukee’s title and how it compares with other NBA champions, before finally debating if the trade for Holiday was really a success. Enjoy!


Weak link #2: Jrue Holiday

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Jrue Holiday was supposed to pick up the same defensive thread that Eric Bledsoe left while providing a more efficient shooting option. Now, was Holiday more impactful than Bledsoe on the whole? It’s hard to say he wasn’t. Holiday’s regular season stats were pretty damn good at 18.5 PPG, 6.8 APG, 4.7 RPG, and 2.0 steals/blocks per game, while shooting 49.5% from the field and 39.5% from three on 5.3 attempts per game. At the same time, we shouldn’t forget that Eric Bledsoe’s regular season stats wearing Bucks green (plus the half season in Phoneix because I couldn’t filter it out) weren’t too shabby either: 16.3 PPG, 5.3 APG, 4.4 RPG, and 2.0 steals/blocks per game, while shooting 47.8% from the field and 33.9% from three on 4.5 attempts per game. But the regular season was never Bledsoe’s problem; the reason he was traded was because his shooting efficiency dropped precipitously in the playoffs. Well, guess what? Jrue Holiday’s playoff efficiency ended up being just as bad:

StatisticEric Bledsoe Jrue Holiday
Playoff games3140
PPG13.117.9
APG4.67.9
RPG3.95.8
SPG1.11.6
TPG2.32.6
FG%41.10% (11.8 attempts)39.60% (17.7 attempts)
3P%25.40% (4.1 attempts)30.40% (6.6 attempts)
2P%49.40% (7.8 attempts)45.10% (11.2 attempts)
FT%73.20% (3.1 attempts)75.00% (2.5 attempts)
TS%49.40%46.90%

I understand the defensive responsibilities Bledsoe and Holiday took on in the postseason, but that can’t be the sole reason for this level of poor shooting. I think it’s fair to conclude that had both starting point guards shot more efficiently when it mattered most, the butterfly effect could have been substantial when considering how dominant those Bucks teams were in most other areas. At the same time, it’s worth acknowledging that Horst acquired Holiday to be an offensive improvement from Bledsoe in these key moments, and he did not live up to that, period.

I even became curious and isolated Jrue’s three-point shooting (just to look at one shot distance) to see if there was some key difference in the type of threes he was taking between the regular season and the playoffs that might help to explain this drop-off; the answer is no, there really wasn’t. For example, during the 2020-21 regular season, Holiday shot 37.9% on catch-and-shoot threes with a 14.1% shot frequency; in the playoffs of that same season, he shot 31.5% with a 13.9% frequency. The same shot and (virtually) same shot frequency, and the percentage declined a fair amount in the playoffs. Of course, there’s always the fatigue angle with core guys playing more minutes in the postseason, but that applies to every team.

Therefore, I wondered: Although most fans (me included) instinctively look back on the Holiday trade and view it as a success because the Bucks won a title—and as Brian Windhorst’s famous saying goes, “when you win, it means never having to say you’re sorry”—are we sure the trade elevated the team to the level of a champion? Or, is it more likely that the 2020-21 team—while continuing to play the same dominant brand of basketball that continually put Milwaukee, at the very least, in the championship conversation—caught some breaks other Bucks teams may not have during some of the previous (and following) postseasons, and won a title, which masks the fact that this “blockbuster trade” actually wasn’t as additive as you might think? And to be clear, I think there were some material differences in the title team, particularly in mental fortitude and strategy, that differentiated it from teams prior; winning a ‘chip obviously can’t be reduced to “catching breaks.” My point, however, is that it’s up for debate how much Jrue impacted these differences. Let’s investigate.

Analysing Milwaukee’s title (and Jrue Holiday’s role in it)

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As the table below shows, Milwaukee won the title in 2020-21 with a statistical profile far less impressive than that of the 2018-19 season—both in the regular season and the playoffs—reinforcing the sense that the team’s inability to beat the Raptors may haunt them as a significant missed opportunity. Elsewhere, the regular season profile of the 2019-20 season sticks out on this table; that team was dominating before Covid halted the season. They ended that shortened regular season with a 56-17 (!) record. On the other hand, the playoff profile of that team, although it appears similar to the previous season’s playoff profile on paper, is less credible because the sample size is substantially reduced (five-game loss in the second round). Man, it still would’ve been nice to see that team play in front of real fans, though. Granted, it’s certainly no guarantee that the Bucks would have beaten the Heat, who went all the way to the “bubble” NBA Finals, in a typical environment, especially seeing as they lost in a gentleman’s sweep.

SeasonOffence (RS)Defence (RS)Offence (PS)Defence (PS)
2020-21 (Holiday)116.5 (5th)110.7 (9th) 112.2 (11th)106.8 (1st)
2019-20 (Bledsoe)111.9 (8th)102.5 (1st)109.1 (8th)107.3 (4th)
2018-19 (Bledsoe) 113.5 (4th)104.9 (1st)110.7 (4th)101.9 (1st)

With all of that in mind, the question that might dawn on you is, “did the Bucks get lucky winning that championship?” More specifically, “is winning the title with the top playoff defence and 11th-best offence out of the norm?” The first and most obvious point to make clear is that yes, the higher a team ranks in both categories, the more their chances of winning increase. But teams can also win championships “on balance.” What I mean by “on balance” is that even if a team severely struggles on one end (like the Bucks did on offence in the title season), their proficiency on the other end can save them. In the 2020-21 playoffs, the Bucks were first on offence but 10 spots away from first on defence, thus 10 spots away from “perfect.” This is comparable to the Raptors in the 2018-19 playoffs being six spots away from first on offence and three spots away on defence, which equals nine spots away from “perfect.”

NBA champion table

Season and champion OffenceDefenceSpots from “perfect”
2024-25: Oklahoma City 114.3 (5th)105.7 (1st)4
2023-24: Boston 116.8 (4th)108.2 (3rd) 5
2022-23: Denver 118.2 (1st)110.2 (4th)3
2021-22: Golden State 114.5 (4th)109.6 (6th)8
2020-21: Milwaukee 112.2 (11th)106.8 (1st)10
2019-20: Los Angeles115.6 (2nd)108.7 (6th)6
2018-19: Toronto 109.8 (7th)104.2 (4th)9
2017-18: Golden State 112.7 (1st)102.0 (1st)
2016-17: Golden State118.2 (2nd)105.3 (2nd)2
2015-16: Cleveland 114.6 (1st)105.2 (8th)7

In short, Milwaukee won the championship despite a horrid playoff offence because of their elite defence. Jrue was a key reason both of those happened. Had the Bucks had, say, even the third-best defence, they likely wouldn’t have won a title that year. But to answer the above question, I do not think the Bucks were “lucky” in winning that championship. However, while that team’s statistical profile was in the realm of other champions, it does appear to be at least a mild outlier that required some breaks to go their way. The reason I make that point is not to diminish the title in any way whatsoever; the “asterisk ring” conversation is reductive and silly. I say that to make the point that winning another title with an outlier profile, by its very nature, would be highly unlikely.

To win again, the team needed to move their profile towards the standard of around 4-7 spots from “perfect,” as the table indicates. Unfortunately, Milwaukee’s statistical playoff profile moved further away (from the 10 spots from “perfect” that they won with in 2021) over the next two regular seasons and playoffs—as the table at the bottom of this paragraph shows—and accordingly, the team did not advance past the second round. Jrue continued to be an offensive weak link, shooting poorly in both campaigns.

SeasonOffence (RS)Defence (RS)Offence (PS)Defence (PS)
2022-23 114.3 (15th)110.9 (4th) 114.2 (6th)119.0 (15th)
2021-22114.3 (3rd) 111.1 (14th) 103.4 (15th)102.7 (1st)

Before this section concludes, I should acknowledge the possibility of outside factors contributing to Jrue’s shooting struggles in Milwaukee, such as injuries to Khris Middleton in 2022 and Giannis Antetokounmpo in 2023, which theoretically may have expanded his role to a degree he wasn’t comfortable with. At the same time, considering the stats I reference in the next section from the 2021 playoffs—when the big three were healthy for (basically) the entire run and Jrue still shot very poorly—I don’t know how much credence to give that argument.

I suppose you could argue that the way Boston dramatically shrank Jrue’s offensive responsibilities, asking him to play a lot as a corner shooter and dunker-spot operator, it shows that he is capable of upping his postseason efficiency in a specific role (49.8% from the field and 38.9% from three on 5.2 attempts per game over two playoff runs). However, the Celtics were one of the few NBA teams that could realistically afford to have a player earning $30m per season be their fourth or fifth option due to 1) excellent team construction and 2) the ginormous tax bill their owners were willing to pay (for a few seasons, at least).

The final verdict

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As far as declaring the Holiday trade was a “success” or not, I struggle to answer definitively either way. I suppose I would call it a success on the logic that 1) the theory of how Jrue would elevate the team worked (to a certain degree) in the regular season, and 2) the trade allowed the team to maintain its defensive identity, which had proven to be a prosperous formula that had yet to translate to a title, and then it finally did. Some may think 2) is me trying too hard to flatter the front office, but I consider this extremely valuable. If I were to make my best case as to why the trade was a success, I would emphasise that acquiring Jrue didn’t rock what was an incredibly smooth-sailing boat (dumb analogy, but run with me here). Now, Jrue was acquired to streamline the boat, which I don’t think he did; however, there was no realistic scenario in which the boat would sink with Jrue, which, crucially, differentiates this trade from the one that followed it.

On the other hand, I could entertain the idea that the trade was not a success on the logic that 1) the way Jrue shot in the playoffs, it seems fairly possible that the Bucks still would’ve won that title with Bledsoe anyway, and 2) if Horst was mortgaging the future, he needed to shoot higher than Holiday for a player who he was all but certain would not bring the same issues that Bledsoe did. Granted, 2) is a very tall order. Regardless, the Bucks had a formula that continued to put them at least on the fringes of the championship conversation before they acquired Holiday—the same formula that ultimately won out with Holiday on the team—but the stats don’t necessarily indicate that Holiday “tipped the scale” in a way that Bledsoe could not have.

Certainly, Jrue’s defence in the 2021 playoffs was elite and, it’s fair to say, was probably better than Eric’s in prior playoff campaigns. To what degree was it better? Well, that’s always going to be difficult to measure quantitatively, at least. Eric made consecutive NBA All-Defensive teams with the Bucks in the 2018-19 and 2019-20 seasons; he was no slouch on that front. Looking at advanced stats, Holiday’s defensive box plus/minus (DBPM)—defined by Basketball Reference as a box score estimate of the defensive points per 100 possessions a player contributed above a league-average player, translated to an average team—in those playoffs was 1.2; Bledsoe’s playoff DBPM the year prior was also 1.2. By and large, I would say both players made somewhat similar contributions on defence. That said, I can’t act like I don’t intuitively feel like Holiday was a notch above and, crucially, a more impactful playmaker—the “valley-oop” being the most notable example of that.

On offence, Holiday assisted more than Bledsoe ever did in any playoffs he was a part of with the Bucks. Jrue averaged 8.7 dimes per game in the 2021 postseason; Eric was at an average of 5.9 in the playoffs prior. It should also be mentioned that Holiday made a number of clutch shots in that playoff run. However, the facts are that Jrue shot 40.6% from the field in those playoffs and 48.2% on true shooting. Per Basketball Reference, the average shooting percentage in those playoffs was 46.2%; the average true shooting percentage was 57.1%. Holiday just had to be better than that as the team’s third-highest paid player. And yes, by the same token, I also believe that Milwaukee would’ve had the same unsuccessful results in the two seasons after that with Bledsoe as well. But the key difference is that if Horst stuck with Bledsoe, the team wouldn’t have been out two firsts and two swaps. Fans will never know the opportunity cost of parting ways with those picks and whether acquiring a different player than Holiday could have prevented the need for further major transactions, which then would have afforded Horst a boatload more flexibility than he has now.

Update: Some commenters have pointed out that although Jrue may not have made shots at a high rate in the playoffs, he shot at a higher rate and, crucially, teams guarded him like more of a shooter. I researched this on the NBA’s shot tracking database, and, credit where credit is due, there is indeed some truth to this theory. In the 2018-19 playoffs, Bledsoe shot “wide open” threes (classed as six or more feet of space between the shooter and the closest defender) at a 26.5% frequency (and the next season’s playoffs at a 16.3% frequency). Jrue Holiday, in all three of his playoffs with the Bucks, shot “wide open” threes at around a 17% frequency (if I were to average it out). I admit that this was something I had not considered in my research. Indeed, it is another critical data point for those calling the trade a success.



Check back in next week for Chapter 3, the final of this series, where I’ll break down the brief Damian Lillard era in Milwaukee, analysing the logic behind the move, what the stats (and the eye test) tell us about how translatable Lillard’s game truly is to winning at the highest level, the role injuries played in his two years in the Cream City, and if a trade for a “lesser player” might have resulted in more success for Milwaukee.

Source: https://www.brewhoop.com/bucks-anal...ba-weak-link-theory-jrue-holiday-eric-bledsoe
 
Eurobasket Prep Recap: Greece 104, Latvia 86

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Today was an exciting day for the verb “drop.” Florence + The Machine dropped the lead single for their sixth album, and its title—“Everybody Scream”—was an apt reaction to Giannis Antetokounmpo dropping 25 (all stats per Harris Stavrou) as Greece defeated Latvia 104-86 in preparation for next week’s Eurobasket 2025.

Greece got out to a strong start, leading 30-17 after one over Kristaps Porzingis and company. They would maintain that lead for the rest of the game, winning or tying each of the subsequent quarters. Joining Giannis with double digit point totals were Giannoulis Larentzakis, Alexandr Samontourov, and Tyler Dorsey, while Konstantinos Sloukas dished out 10 assists. The boys from Riga were led by Rihards Lomazs’ 17 points, with Porzingis adding a mere seven.

Giannis stuffed the stat sheet, adding 10 rebounds and three assists (for a total of 38 poisisounds) as well as two steals, two blocks, and only one turnover. He went seven for nine from the charity stripe and, bless, missed the only three he took. Notably, many of his points were right in the teeth of Porzingis, including several fadeaways. Perhaps the most important number? 15 minutes of run, good for seventh best on the team.

Thanasis also played! He racked up more fouls (3) than points (2)—more fouls than Giannis in less gametime—alongside four boards and a steal. Look out, AJax and Amir.

Greece plays Italy on Friday. In the meantime, I leave you with the oddly germane lyrics to Everybody Scream:

Here, I don’t have to quiet
Here, I don’t have to be kind
Extraordinary and normal all at the same time
But look at me run myself ragged
Blood on the stage
But how can I leave you when you’re screaming my name?
Screaming my name

Here, I can take up the whole of the sky
Unfurling, becoming my full size
And look at me burst through the ceiling
Aren’t you so glad you came?
Breathless and begging and screaming my name
Screaming my name

Source: https://www.brewhoop.com/bucks-feat...e-recap-giannis-antetokounmpo-milwaukee-bucks
 
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