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One month before the 2025 NBA draft, we answer your questions on trade possibilities with Quentin Grimes and the No. 3 overall pick.
If Game 1 of the Eastern Conference Finals is any indication, the Sixers have their work cut out for them this offseason. The star-studded New York Knicks looked like they were going to defend their home court, but Tyrese Haliburton and the never-say-die Indiana Pacers had other ideas. One unprecedented comeback later, the Pacers are now three games away from their first NBA Finals berth since Reggie Miller’s heyday.
The breakneck Pacers would have run this year’s Sixers off the floor, which explains why team president Daryl Morey is aiming to bring in more youth and athleticism this offseason. Landing the No. 3 overall pick in the 2025 NBA draft could be a huge boon in that regard. But will the Sixers be the ones making that pick?
On Wednesday, we asked you to send in your offseason questions about the draft, free agency or trade options. As usual, you did not disappoint.
Let’s jump right into the debate that will plague Sixers fans for the next month.
bebopdeluxe
Two related questions: why is it that some analysts believe that VJ Edgecomb will improve his outside shooting (one of the biggest holes in his game), while Ace Bailey (who is still 18 and a full year younger than Edgecomb) cannot improve aspects of his game that are concerning (i.e. defensive intensity/focus and decision-making); and 2) given that most analysts seem to believe that, after Harper and Flagg, all of the guys in the next tier are not "can't miss" guys, why would we draft a guy like Edgecomb (or Johnson) when we already have three backcourt guys under team control (Maxey, McCain, Grimes), as opposed to simply picking a guy like Bailey, whose shotmaking and defensive upside would seem like a seamless fit? Doesn't that force Morey to get three decisions right - drafting the right guy, trading the right guard, and trading for the right front-court piece?
I understand the value of dealing with all of that if Harper is available at 3 (unlikely), but is Edgecomb (or Johnson) that much better a prospect than Bailey to have to deal with the glut-in-the-backcourt issues that we would face if we pick a guard?
I can’t speak for other analysts, but I love this question because it highlights what makes the draft such an inexact science.
To some extent, it’s easier to project improvement for a specific skill like shooting than it is an intangible such as decision-making. However, you raise a fair point about Bailey’s red flags not necessarily being deal-breakers if the Sixers believe that they can coax growth out of him in those areas. Bailey told reporters at the combine that he’s modeled his game after Paul George (along with Kevin Durant and Jayson Tatum). Would the opportunity to work with one of his basketball idols help him fix his weaknesses?
There’s a reason why Bailey was the No. 2 overall prospect in his recruiting class (one spot ahead of Dylan Harper). I’d be lying if I said that I’ve grinded enough of his high school tape to have an informed take about how his game has evolved, but did he show these same tendencies in high school? Or did the situation around him at Rutgers (aside from Harper) draw out some of those bad habits? Would he be better when surrounded by more talent, like he would be on the Sixers?
I don’t have strong takes about who should be the top prospect on the Sixers’ board or how much a gap there is between Bailey, Edgecombe, etc. (That’s what Harrison and Paul are for at LB!) But regarding the other part of your question… even before he knew which pick they’d wind up getting, Morey said that the Sixers would “definitely” take the “best player available” and wouldn’t take fit into account.
With that said, I hear your concern. Taking Edgecombe or Tre Johnson at No. 3 all but guarantees that the Sixers will have to trade either him or one of Tyrese Maxey, Jared McCain or Quentin Grimes at some point. Luckily, they might have a three-year runway before they need to make that decision. Maxey is under contract for four more years, McCain still has three years left on his rookie deal, and Grimes figures to sign a multi-year contract this summer as well.
In the meantime, the Sixers would likely run plenty of three-guard lineups, although Grimes and Edgecombe have the size to guard up positionally. They’d have a decently long runway to experiment with different combinations and see which players worked best together over the long haul. If they determine that Maxey and McCain are incompatible on defense, for instance, that would help guide the decision of which one to eventually trade.
Bailey is definitely the cleanest fit positionally. But if the Sixers believe Edgecombe or Johnson have a higher ceiling, Morey seems adamant that he’s going to prioritize talent and figure out the rest later.
datruth4life3.0
Bryan, what would you be willing to move if you're Morey to trade up one spot to select Dylan Harper? I would definitely consider moving that 2028 Clippers first rounder or McCain. I don't think this team is gonna be in a position in the near future to add a talent like Harper with the core talent the team already has on this roster.
I’m not sure that I see a deal here that makes sense for either side, if I’m being honest. It seems like Harper is on a tier of his own in this year’s draft, so I’d imagine the Spurs would want significant compensation to move down even one slot.
Would they demand McCain? With Stephon Castle and De’Aaron Fox already in the fold, maybe not. (Particularly if they intended to take Edgecombe or Johnson at No. 3.) If McCain and No. 3 was all it cost, though, I’d at least consider it, particularly if the Sixers planned to match any offer sheet that Grimes might sign in restricted free agency.
With that said, I’d guess the Sixers would have to include the Clippers’ fully unprotected 2028 first-round pick to get the Spurs to consider moving down. Personally, I’d be reticent to part ways with that pick unless it’s for a surefire home run. The longer that the Clippers continue to build around Kawhi Leonard and James Harden, the higher the likelihood that they begin crashing out right as that pick becomes due.
It seems like the Spurs plan on standing pat at No. 2 unless they’re able to flip it as part of a package for a star like Giannis Antetokounmpo, which is a wise course of action for them. If the Sixers are trading that pick, I’m guessing a slight trade down is far more likely than a trade up.
Can Grimes be used in a sign and trade scenario involving the 3rd pick? If so, what level of asset would he be considered?
— Kail (@vivotranquil0.bsky.social) 2025-05-21T17:12:37.853Z
This is a great question, because it’s more complicated than it might appear on the surface.
There are two big obstacles to including Grimes in a sign-and-trade involving the No. 3 pick. The first is the timing. The first round of this year’s draft is on June 25, but other teams can’t legally negotiate with free agents until June 30. (And as we all know, no team would dare tamper in Adam Silver’s NBA.)
The Sixers are allowed to begin negotiating with Grimes one day after the NBA Finals end, so they can find out how much he’s looking to earn on his next contract before the draft begins. They could then theoretically relay that information to another team that might be interested in acquiring him via sign-and-trade—or, better yet, have a third party relay that information—but they couldn’t finalize a deal with another team prior to the draft.
The Sixers and the other team could make their respective picks and then flip them later as part of a Grimes sign-and-trade, but that would be risky for both sides. What happens if the deal falls apart for some reason? They wouldn’t get a redo on their draft picks.
The other big obstacle is base year compensation. If a free agent has Bird or Early Bird rights, is signing a new contract that’s higher than a minimum deal, is earning a raise greater than 20 percent and his team is above the cap after the signing, his outgoing salary in a sign-and-trade for salary-matching purposes is either his previous salary or only 50 percent of his new salary, whichever is greater. In other words, if the Sixers signed Grimes to a contract starting at $20 million as part of a sign-and-trade, he’d count as $10 million of outgoing salary for them but would count as $20 million as incoming salary for whichever team was acquiring him.
However, there is one small saving grace regarding the BYC issues. The new collective bargaining agreement expanded the salary-matching rules for teams below either apron. Those teams are allowed to take back roughly $8.5 million more in salary than they send out, although doing so would hard-cap them at the first apron. I’m guessing the Sixers would like to avoid hard-capping themselves at the first apron, as that might cost them a shot at re-signing Guerschon Yabusele.
With all of that said, one team jumps out as a logical Grimes sign-and-trade destination if the No. 3 pick is involved: the New Orleans Pelicans.
Dejounte Murray figures to miss a decent chunk of next season as he recovers from the torn Achilles that he suffered in late January, so the Pelicans may be on the hunt for another ball-handler this offseason. Grimes acquitted himself well in that role late in the year for the Sixers amidst their tidal wave of injuries. And the Pelicans have two players in particular who should intrigue the Sixers as part of a trade down: Trey Murphy III and Herb Jones.
If the Pelicans would be willing to trade the No. 7 overall pick and Murphy for No. 3 and Grimes, I’d jump through whatever hoops were necessary to make that sign-and-trade look legal. No. 7 and Jones for No. 3 and Grimes might be a tougher sell, but that could still be worth considering. The Sixers still might be able to land Kon Knueppel or Khaman Maluach at No. 7, so they’d basically be trading Grimes and one of Edgecombe or Bailey for Herb and one of the mid-lottery prospects. They could then trot out a starting five of Maxey, McCain, Jones, George and Embiid with Kelly Oubre Jr., Justin Edwards, Eric Gordon, Andre Drummond, Adem Bona and the No. 7 pick off the bench (assuming that Oubre, Gordon and Drummond all opt in as expected).
Having a lockdown wing defender like Jones could help the Sixers cover up any defensive issues that arise from starting Maxey and McCain together. Murphy would be the ideal target given his shooting ability, but either would at least be worth considering.
That’s a wrap on this week’s mailbag! I’ll be on vacation starting Saturday, so you’re getting a brief reprieve next week. But I’ll be back in June with more mailbags and analysis about the different financial variables that could affect how the Sixers approach this offseason.
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