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Bucks Reacts Survey: Who should start at the two and three?

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Welcome to SB Nation Reacts, a survey of fans across the NBA. Throughout the year we ask questions of the most plugged-in Bucks fans and fans across the country. Sign up here to participate in the weekly emailed surveys.

It’s been a good month since we last surveyed you about the upcoming iteration of the Milwaukee Bucks; in previous editions, we focused a bit more on the starting point guard role with the returns of Kevin Porter Jr. and Ryan Rollins, plus the addition of Cole Anthony. But that’s not the area of the roster with the most intrigue, which would be on the wing, particularly when it comes to who gets starting nods. So that’s what we’re asking fans about today.

For the first time in over a decade, the Bucks will enter the year without a bona fide stud on the wing, now that franchise legend Khris Middleton is plying his trade in the nation’s capital. Kyle Kuzma assumed the starting role at the three last year with… less than ideal results. Gary Trent Jr. began the year starting at the two, but was soon moved to the bench for nearly the entire season. Don’t get it twisted, though: after those first several games among the starting five past, GTJ was sensational last year. That’s part of why he made the starting lineup for the Bucks’ elimination game in Indianapolis several months ago, where he was joined by AJ Green. They not only replaced Kuz, but also Taurean Prince, who started at the three and then somewhat inexplicably the two all of last year. Both him and Kuzma struggled mightily in their first playoff run with the Bucks.

Now both of them are back, and the younger two guards are breathing down their necks for playing time. Green and Trent combined with Porter to form an interesting, if undersized group in the backcourt/on the wing next to Giannis and Bobby Portis. Presumably, that lineup can work with newcomer Myles Turner up front, but either way, the data from late last season was super encouraging, despite the small sample size. That’s led Marques Johnson to start calling them the “Triumverate.”

Now we turn it over to you. Are you encouraged enough by that two-three combo of Green and Trent to start them? Or do you want one of the regular-season guys to remain in the unit that will take the floor against Washington in October? Vote below:

Source: https://www.brewhoop.com/nba-reacts...aj-green-gary-trent-kyle-kuzma-taurean-prince
 
Bucks Reacts Survey Results: Trent & Green is the ticket

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Our most recent iteration of our Reacts fan surveys ties a bow on the starting lineup question for next year’s Bucks. Earlier in the offseason, we learned that a slight majority of respondents prefer Kevin Porter Jr. as the starting point guard over Ryan Rollins and newcomer Cole Anthony. I think it’s safe to assume that Giannis and high-profile free agent signing Myles Turner will make up the starting frontcourt. So it’s no wonder that the discussion revolves around the two and three, after both positions had revolving doors last year. But the same cast of characters is back, who do fans want to take the floor on Opening Night alongside the aforementioned trio?

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For Game 5 of Milwaukee’s first-round series against Indiana last spring, Doc Rivers mercifully changed his starting quintet to feature Gary Trent Jr., AJ Green, KPJ, and Bobby Portis alongside Giannis. In Porter’s case, this was brought about by Damian Lillard’s torn Achilles. The other three? Because Brook Lopez, Kyle Kuzma, and Taurean Prince each had rough series in their own ways. Lopez is now out of the picture, but images of Prince struggling to defend young Pacers wings while going from one of the NBA’s best three-point shooters in the regular season to just 2/9 are still fresh in fans’ heads. And Kuzma, well… the images are either of him doing nothing in his 0/0/0/0/0 (plus two personals) Game 1 or blowing layups (5/15 inside the restricted area during the series).

Prince and Kuzma each started for the Bucks down the stretch, both out of position as they slid down one notch on the positional spectrum from their natural spots at small and power forward, respectively. Somehow, that big four-man grouping with Giannis and Lopez had a +5.9 net rating, so it made sense to give it a go in Game 1. It became clear very quickly that it wouldn’t work, so by Game 2, fans were clamoring for a change, which came too late. At the end of the regular season, while Dame sat out with a blood clot, the Bucks closed games with KPJ, Giannis, Portis, GTJ, and AJG to great success: a ridiculous +51.2 net—the Bucks’ best lineup with over 20 minutes played (they only had 42, though). While that group’s net rating wasn’t as good against Indy (still +6.3!), it’s pretty clear that something works here.

Naturally, fans prefer running this group back next year. 93% of our voters want Trent to start, which he didn’t do for almost the entire year last year—probably a mistake not moving him back into the starting five at some point after he returned from a few early-season games missed with back spasms. Green didn’t start much at all, but was effective enough on defense and has good size to play the two. Trent does as well, but starting either at the wing leaves a big gap between Giannis and either guy, even with their 6’7” (Green) and 6’9” (Trent) wingspans making up for their 6’4”–6’5” listed heights.

The other question is how this will work now that Turner is involved. We’ve seen the results with Portis, and that option remains, but (small sample size warning) Trent, Green, Porter, Lopez, and Giannis were +75.8 in 17 minutes. Even in 20 minutes with Prince replacing Green, they were +6.3. So whatever limited data we have to extrapolate from, a Turner/Giannis/Trent/Green/Porter lineup could be their best option, especially in winning time.

Whether or not we see that from jump street is a different question. Prince started 73 contests last year—second most on the team—but there’s not a whole lot of desire for him in our survey to reprise that role. Kuzma also isn’t a popular choice, even alongside Trent, though if I had to bet money, I’d put it on Doc starting Kuz at the three in October. I don’t like it any more than you do, but maybe he’ll surprise us.

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Source: https://www.brewhoop.com/bucks-poll...survey-aj-green-gary-trent-jr-starting-lineup
 
EuroBasket Recap: Greece 94, Georgia 53

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In a lopsided contest, Greece came away with a big 94-53 win over Georgia. Giannis dominated for the Greeks with 27 points (on 9/11 shooting), four assists, eight rebounds, and two steals in 25 minutes of action. Georgia was led by former Buck Sandro Mamukelashvili (or just “Mamu”), who had 14 points. Unfortunately for Georgia, Goga Bitadze (who would have guarded Giannis) did not play.

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Greece had a tremendous first quarter, with Giannis posting a ridiculous eight points, three assists, two rebounds, and two steals on 4/4 shooting. In fact, Antetokounmpo and Konstantinos Mitoglou scored Greece’s first 14 points. Greece’s defence was excellent in the early going, racking up five (!) steals in the opening frame; that defence allowed them to get easy baskets in transition. At the end of one, Greece led 22-13.

Georgia made some good strides to open the second, with George Korsantia, Kakhaber Jintcharadze, and Kamar Baldwin scoring seven of the first nine points. However, the Greek defence (and Giannis) got going after that; Antetokounmpo was subbed in at about the six-minute mark of the quarter and scored eight more points to end the half. Even though Hellas was dominating, there was an impressive play from Mamu, who drove down the right side of the court and jammed it over the Greek defender. Still, Greece had a significant 46-29 lead going into the locker room.

Giannis began the third with a corner three, followed by a triple from Kostas Papanikolaou. Antetokounmpo continued to score around the basket as Georgia’s defence could do nothing without Bitadze there to offer some resistance. Greek sharpshooter Giannoulis Larentzakis got in on the act with a three of his own as Hellas extended its lead, up 69-41 after three.

Georgia’s Giorgi Shermadini did all he could to make the final score respectable, dropping six points to open the fourth. However, Greece was just too good, with Thanasis Antetokounmpo and Tyler Dorsey getting those points right back. Giannis was subbed out late in the third quarter as the game was essentially over; observers assumed he would sit for the rest of the contest, but he did come back in with 4:52 left in the game. Giannis would play another few minutes (scoring a few points at the charity stripe), but then was subbed out for good. Greece wins big.

Source: https://www.brewhoop.com/bucks-feat...eorgia-final-score-recap-giannis-goga-bitadze
 
Thanasis Antetokounmpo returns to Bucks

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A move that felt inevitable has finally happened: Thanasis Antetokounmpo will be back with the Milwaukee Bucks. The announcement originally came from Thanasis’ social media in the form of a picture of him and Giannis with the caption “I’m back”, leaving fans in a fluster trying to interpret exactly what it meant. Within half an hour, though, ESPN’s Shams Charania confirmed a one-year, $2.9m veteran’s minimum signing (his cap hit will be $2.3m—the rest is reimbursed by the league) for the fan favorite. Thanasis was last on the Bucks in 2023–24, and has been playing for Greece’s national team in the EuroCup after returning from his injury.

This move creates some interesting roster implications. Assuming his contract is guaranteed (seems like a given), Thanasis will make the final 15-man squad, which means Milwaukee must make a cut to open up a spot for him. Andre Jackson Jr. is by far the likeliest candidate, as his contract is only partially guaranteed for $800k. His full 2025–26 salary won’t become fully guaranteed until Opening Night, so if the Bucks waived him and he goes unclaimed, they’d only incur $800k in dead salary on their books the rest of the year. Chris Livingston is also an option, though his deal is fully guaranteed and was just signed in July.

Amir Coffey, who is currently on an Exhibit 9 training camp deal, now has a slighter chance of earning a standard agreement, but perhaps Jackson Jr. and Livingston will both be gone, opening up another spot. A trade to move off of one of those youngsters to free up a spot may be in the works, but the recent saga of former first-round pick Olivier-Maxence Propser suggests Jackson Jr. and Livingston wouldn’t have much value on the open market.

In the offseason, NBA teams can carry up to 21 players on their roster, three of which can be two way contracts. Milwaukee currently has those three spots filled, plus 15 guaranteed contracts, one partially guaranteed contract (Ajax), and one non-guaranteed training camp contract (Coffey). That’s 20, so they presently have only one roster vacancy. By Opening Night, they’ll need to whittle their standard roster down to 15 players, plus the three two-ways.

Hilariously, this is the move that convinced Shams to believe what we knew months ago: Giannis will be staying on the Bucks for the upcoming season. Sometimes, all you can do is laugh at the B.S.

Welcome back, Thanasty.

Source: https://www.brewhoop.com/bucks-free...antetokounmpo-milwaukee-bucks-signing-giannis
 
Milwaukee Bucks Ranking The Roster 2025 – Introduction

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Bucks media day is four weeks from yesterday and preseason basketball five weeks from yesterday, so that means our annual and much-beloved exercise is back for its twelfth incarnation. If you’re unfamiliar, each year since 2014, we’ve polled Brew Hoop readers about which player is more important to Milwaukee’s success as opposed to his teammates, ultimately putting together a list that has grown from 15 to 18 names as NBA rosters expanded with two-way contracts. Teams usually are pretty solid by this point in the offseason, and while there are some exceptions this year due to ongoing restricted free agency standoffs, the Bucks aren’t one of them. Granted, they have surprised us in late September before and thrown our ratings off, but we press on.

How do we rank the roster? Well, we haven’t always had the same criteria as the Bucks’ title aspirations rose in the last seven years or so. As we’ve done since then, we’ll rate each Buck in terms of how we think they’ll impact postseason success, rather than their future importance, as we might have done in 2016 or so. Managing editor emeritus Adam Paris wrote this once we shifted to that line of thinking, and since it still rings true, here is our main recommendation on how to vote:

Postseason success should be paramount in your mind when considering your rankings. Regular season competency is a bonus, especially if they can help the team get to a higher seed that yields dividends in the Playoffs, but think about how you envision each individual player factoring in when postseason games arrive.

One constant among our rankings is Giannis, who has predictably taken the top spot each season since we began ranking the roster. There usually wasn’t any drama for second and third place either, with franchise stalwart Khris Middleton finishing second often, joined by trade splashes Jrue Holiday and Damian Lillard every year since 2020. Brook Lopez also found himself fourth very often too. Of course, none of those guys are Bucks any longer, and for the first time, Middleton won’t be on our list. So I’m particularly excited to see how voters decide spots two through five. I imagine newcomer Myles Turner will take second, but how high will 2025 deadline acquisitions Kevin Porter Jr. and Kyle Kuzma place? Will Bobby Portis—fifth every year since coming to Milwaukee—move up? Only one way to find out. But before we begin, let’s look at historical rankings among the current roster:

Current Player2024 Rank2023 Rank2022 Rank2021 Rank2020 Rank2019 Rank2018 Rank2017 Rank2016 Rank2015 Rank2014 Rank
Giannis Antetokoummpo11111111111
Myles Turner
Kyle Kuzma
Kevin Porter Jr.
Gary Trent Jr.5
Bobby Portis65555
Ryan Rollins17
Taurean Prince8
AJ Green91117
Jericho Sims
Andre Jackson Jr.1113
Chris Livingston1214
Gary Harris
Cole Anthony
Tyler Smith15
Thanasis Antetokounmpo1515121515
Jamaree Bouyea
Mark Sears
Pete Nance
Amir Coffey

As of Sunday, we welcome Thanasis back to our rankings and perhaps we already have his customary 15th spot warm for him. Now there are three members of the 2021 title team still on the roster! Besides Middleton, Lopez, and Lillard, two other longer-tenured guys we won’t see this year are Pat Connaughton (finished sixth or seventh most years dating back to 2019 before falling to 10th last year) and MarJon Beauchamp (fell from ninth to 14th). There are still plenty of holdovers from last year, though, and I see two names that should both rise significantly in AJ Green and Ryan Rollins. Taurean Prince seems likely to fall, but the others might stay in similar spots.

Of course, it seems very likely there will be some movement at the end of the roster between now and Opening Night, when the standard roster must be reduced to 15 players max (plus three two-ways). With Thanasis’ signing, the standard roster is currently at 17, and 15 of those guys are fully guaranteed; Andre Jackson Jr.‘s contract is only partially guaranteed, and Amir Coffey is on a training camp deal. To accommodate one of these guys (probably Thanasis), most speculate that Ajax is gone, but perhaps Tyler Smith is in danger too. With all this in mind, we’ll rank everyone who’s currently on the roster, since a decision may not be made until mid or late October.

The other element in our polls is the Gut Check, which is where you rate your confidence in a given player that they’ll be in the playoff rotation on a 1–5 scale (1 means riding the bench and 5 means logging heavy minutes). How did our holdovers from last year fare in this regard?

  1. Gary Trent Jr. – 4.72
  2. Giannis Antetokounmpo – 4.58
  3. Bobby Portis – 4.30
  4. Taurean Prince – 3.72
  5. AJ Green – 3.23
  6. Andre Jackson Jr. – 2.67
  7. Chris Livingston – 1.86
  8. Tyler Smith – 1.55
  9. Ryan Rollins – 1.25

And with all that preamble out of the way, I send you to the voting booth to determine the least important/20th most important Buck (editor’s note: this is our new poll feature, which will have more sophisticated options for future polling, like selecting multiple answers). Tomorrow we’ll unveil those results and preview the lucky (or unlucky, in this case) player for the season ahead, and you’ll get to vote on 19th. Right now we’ll keep the options pretty open, shaving them down as we go along.

Source: https://www.brewhoop.com/bucks-anal...anking-roster-2025-introduction-nba-preseason
 
Ranking The Roster: Mark Sears debuts at 20th

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The first cab off the rank in this year’s Ranking The Roster series is Mark Sears, who arrives in the Cream City with a laundry list of accolades from the college level. In a sport heavily favoured to tall people, it’s going to be an uphill climb for the 5’11” Sears to make headway as an NBA player. That said, of all the short guards to reach the fringes of the league, I think he has as good a shot as anyone.

So, what qualities does Mark have that would make him of use to the Bucks? Well, the Bucks have a dearth of true playmakers on the team; you’re looking mainly at Giannis (obviously), Kevin Porter Jr., and Cole Anthony. If Sears plays meaningful minutes this season, it would likely be if one of Porter or Anthony gets hurt, and he’d assume some semblance of the role he played in college as a high-usage playmaker. Of course, he’d also have to beat out fellow two-way Jamaree Bouyea. I should note that Mark was closer to a scoring guard than a facilitator at Alabama, but the Bucks need scoring as much as they need passing, so that could work out OK.

Another aspect that could work in Sears’ favour is that, with Dame off the team, it becomes easier to insulate a smaller guard like him than it would have been with Lillard still on the team. Guys like KPJ, AJ Green, Gary Trent, and Ryan Rollins could surround Mark at the SG and SF spots to cover for his weaknesses. If they can work out how to keep him on the court defensively, he’s going to create good stuff on the other end with his shooting (career 37.5% three-point shooter in college) and scoring ability.

Finally, I want to address the “undersized, high-usage college players can’t scale down their roles in the NBA” argument. I think there is always value in being “the guy.” Players learn a lot by playing a role in which they are relied on heavily to create offence for their team. This experience is valuable because when these players reach the NBA, they should understand what “the guy” on the NBA team needs and be able to mould their game to fit that. Furthermore, Mark’s game lends itself to scaling down; he’s a good shooter and thus can play off the ball. He also has decent passing instincts (averaged 3.9 APG across five college seasons) and knows how to make the next play. For example, if Giannis were to post up and get double-teamed, Sears would know what the correct read is when the ball is swung to him (in a way that Taurean Prince, for example, probably would not).

Overall, I’m a fan of Mark Sears and love his story of rising from obscurity to become a two-time All-American. But what about you, the readers? Do you think Sears has any shot to see the floor this season, or in the playoffs? Let us know in the gut check and in the comments, but most importantly, vote below for who you believe Milwaukee’s next-best player is!

Source: https://www.brewhoop.com/bucks-anal...-roster-mark-sears-alabama-college-basketball
 
EuroBasket Recap: Greece 90, Spain 86

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In an initially comfortable but ultimately tight battle, Greece defeated Spain 90-86 to clinch the top seed from Group C in the EuroBasket knockout stage. Giannis Antetokounmpo led the charge for the boys in blue and white to finish 4-1, scoring 25 necessary points that sent the defending champs and a recent thorn in Greece’s side packing.

Tyler Dorsey stood out for Hellas, scoring 22 points on a scorching 6/9 performance behind the arc. Kostas Sloukas and Kostas Papanikolaou added 12 and 11, respectively. Combined, the three contributed 12 assists. It was a balanced effort for Spain, with Jaime Pradilla, Mario Saint-Supery, Xabi Lopez-Arostegui, and Santi Aldama ranging from 14 to 12 points. Sergio De Larrea helmed the squad with six assists.

Giannis’ 25 points featured 60% shooting from the floor, but only 58% shooting from the line, a number he’ll be looking to improve. Still, he shot better than Spain’s 57%, including a frightful 0-3 trip from Juancho Hernangomez as Spain trailed Greece by four with 13 seconds remaining. But Giannis led his side with 14 boards and nine assists, just shy of a triple-double. Not too shabby from the Greek Freak (perhaps just “Freak” given the context), especially after missing two games (rest and knee).

Kostas and Thanasis also played a few minutes. The newly signed Antetokounbro scored a free throw and recorded a rebound alongside missing three shots and picking up a foul in under five minutes.

Greece will play Israel on Sunday at 1:45 local time in Riga. They face a favorable draw with France, Serbia, and Germany on the other side of the bracket. Giannis and co will be looking to advance to the finals at minimum.

Source: https://www.brewhoop.com/bucks-feat...ecap-greece-90-spain-86-giannis-antetokounmpo
 
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