Pete Rose
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Definitely. He's one of the greatest players of all time, as well as the all-time hits leader. and he's not in the HOF because he bet on his team to win when he managed. That's just not right.
If Barry Bonds even comes close to being inducted, then something is seriously wrong with the MLB.
If Barry Bonds even comes close to being inducted, then something is seriously wrong with the MLB.
Definitely. He's one of the greatest players of all time, as well as the all-time hits leader. and he's not in the HOF because he bet on his team to win when he managed. That's just not right.
If Barry Bonds even comes close to being inducted, then something is seriously wrong with the MLB.
If Barry Bonds even comes close to being inducted, then something is seriously wrong with the MLB.
There's no rule that says betting results in banishment from the HoF. That's just what the commissioner thought was just.
I say he should definitely be inducted. It's not like he was fixing the games. He was betting on his team, not against them. He's one of the greatest players in MLB history. Betting as a manager shouldn't have had nearly as serious consequences.
He was still breaking the rules, something that he knew was against the rules. He should expect and accept any punishment that is given to him by the commissioner.
^Still a better commissioner than Gary Bettman.
Even if he was one of the greatest hitters ever, it doesn't mean that he should be exempt from punishments. If Barrack Obama murdered someone in cold blood, he would face the same charges as a normal citizen that did so. He would not be exempt from punishment just because he's the president.
Even if he was one of the greatest hitters ever, it doesn't mean that he should be exempt from punishments. If Barrack Obama murdered someone in cold blood, he would face the same charges as a normal citizen that did so. He would not be exempt from punishment just because he's the president.
//storage.proboards.com/2930147/avatar/cnEucbYCBIqxP0zXFVib.pngAug 20, 2012 18:56:06 GMT -5 Cameron said:
Aug 20, 2012 15:15:04 GMT -5 don0tto said:
You can thank bud selig for being the biggest moron
What does Pete Rose have to do with Bud Selig? Giamatti is the one who pretty much banned him from baseball. Not only that, but Giamatti seemed to have it in for Pete Rose. Giamatti didn't like him, which is why the punishment was so severe, in my opinion. Could it be more about a personal grudge than the betting itself? Pete Rose has the ability to apply for his banishment to be lifted, but I don't see Bud Selig granting it to him if he did apply. It would be the right thing, but with people breaking the rules all the time in the MLB, it might be best to wait a little longer until we are way past The Steroid Era.
I will say this, if we are going to allow players from the "steroid era" make the hall of fame we must first let guys like Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson be inducted if we're going to let McGwire, Bonds, etc. in the hall of fame.
You can thank bud selig for being the biggest moron
What does Pete Rose have to do with Bud Selig? Giamatti is the one who pretty much banned him from baseball. Not only that, but Giamatti seemed to have it in for Pete Rose. Giamatti didn't like him, which is why the punishment was so severe, in my opinion. Could it be more about a personal grudge than the betting itself? Pete Rose has the ability to apply for his banishment to be lifted, but I don't see Bud Selig granting it to him if he did apply. It would be the right thing, but with people breaking the rules all the time in the MLB, it might be best to wait a little longer until we are way past The Steroid Era.
I will say this, if we are going to allow players from the "steroid era" make the hall of fame we must first let guys like Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson be inducted if we're going to let McGwire, Bonds, etc. in the hall of fame.
There's no rule that says betting results in banishment from the HoF. That's just what the commissioner thought was just.
I say he should definitely be inducted. It's not like he was fixing the games. He was betting on his team, not against them. He's one of the greatest players in MLB history. Betting as a manager shouldn't have had nearly as serious consequences.
He was still breaking the rules, something that he knew was against the rules. He should expect and accept any punishment that is given to him by the commissioner.
^Still a better commissioner than Gary Bettman.
Even if he was one of the greatest hitters ever, it doesn't mean that he should be exempt from punishments. If Barrack Obama murdered someone in cold blood, he would face the same charges as a normal citizen that did so. He would not be exempt from punishment just because he's the president.
Even if he was one of the greatest hitters ever, it doesn't mean that he should be exempt from punishments. If Barrack Obama murdered someone in cold blood, he would face the same charges as a normal citizen that did so. He would not be exempt from punishment just because he's the president.
//storage.proboards.com/2930147/avatar/cnEucbYCBIqxP0zXFVib.pngAug 20, 2012 18:56:06 GMT -5 Cameron said:
Aug 20, 2012 15:15:04 GMT -5 don0tto said:
You can thank bud selig for being the biggest moron
What does Pete Rose have to do with Bud Selig? Giamatti is the one who pretty much banned him from baseball. Not only that, but Giamatti seemed to have it in for Pete Rose. Giamatti didn't like him, which is why the punishment was so severe, in my opinion. Could it be more about a personal grudge than the betting itself? Pete Rose has the ability to apply for his banishment to be lifted, but I don't see Bud Selig granting it to him if he did apply. It would be the right thing, but with people breaking the rules all the time in the MLB, it might be best to wait a little longer until we are way past The Steroid Era.
I will say this, if we are going to allow players from the "steroid era" make the hall of fame we must first let guys like Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson be inducted if we're going to let McGwire, Bonds, etc. in the hall of fame.
You can thank bud selig for being the biggest moron
What does Pete Rose have to do with Bud Selig? Giamatti is the one who pretty much banned him from baseball. Not only that, but Giamatti seemed to have it in for Pete Rose. Giamatti didn't like him, which is why the punishment was so severe, in my opinion. Could it be more about a personal grudge than the betting itself? Pete Rose has the ability to apply for his banishment to be lifted, but I don't see Bud Selig granting it to him if he did apply. It would be the right thing, but with people breaking the rules all the time in the MLB, it might be best to wait a little longer until we are way past The Steroid Era.
I will say this, if we are going to allow players from the "steroid era" make the hall of fame we must first let guys like Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson be inducted if we're going to let McGwire, Bonds, etc. in the hall of fame.
There's no rule that says betting results in banishment from the HoF. That's just what the commissioner thought was just.
I say he should definitely be inducted. It's not like he was fixing the games. He was betting on his team, not against them. He's one of the greatest players in MLB history. Betting as a manager shouldn't have had nearly as serious consequences.
You can thank bud selig for being the biggest moron
Could you imagine a punishment worse than banning a worthy player from the Hall of Fame? At least one that the MLB could impose?
Why is being caught using steroids only a 10-day suspension, while betting for your team is the worst punishment the MLB is able to force? It shouldn't be.
There's no rule that says betting results in banishment from the HoF. That's just what the commissioner thought was just.
I say he should definitely be inducted. It's not like he was fixing the games. He was betting on his team, not against them. He's one of the greatest players in MLB history. Betting as a manager shouldn't have had nearly as serious consequences.
You can thank bud selig for being the biggest moron
Could you imagine a punishment worse than banning a worthy player from the Hall of Fame? At least one that the MLB could impose?
Why is being caught using steroids only a 10-day suspension, while betting for your team is the worst punishment the MLB is able to force? It shouldn't be.
There's no rule that says betting results in banishment from the HoF. That's just what the commissioner thought was just.
I say he should definitely be inducted. It's not like he was fixing the games. He was betting on his team, not against them. He's one of the greatest players in MLB history. Betting as a manager shouldn't have had nearly as serious consequences.
He was still breaking the rules, something that he knew was against the rules. He should expect and accept any punishment that is given to him by the commissioner.
No one's debating whether or not he broke the rules. He admitted to it himself. But just because the commissioner thinks that the ridiculous punishment of banning arguably the greatest hitter of all time from the HoF is justified, doesn't mean he's right.
It's against the rules to use steroids, but being caught using them usually carries no more than a short suspension. It takes four positive tests to actually be suspended for a season. If that's considered "fair" by the commissioner, then why does betting on your team, a very slight offense compared to 4 positive PED tests, carry a much larger punishment?
That's because because revoking HoF status is a punishment that impacts Pete greatly. Obviously someone who isn't Hall worthy wouldn't be stopped from entering the Hall, but the punishment would be just as severe to them as this was to Pete.